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TheMuffin
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Nov '05
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Date Posted:
1/24 7:44pm
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RE: LED Blade Q and A's
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I'll keep my eyes open on that option as well. Though I have the feeling that between shipping my saber out, getting it coated and then having it shipped back will cost way more than what I've been offered by this company.
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GreytaleNovastar1138
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Date Posted:
1/25 12:10am
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If it is so expensive to powder-coat with TCSS... you could try something a bit more simplistic. Certain specific "Rustoleum" paint sprays provide pretty nice color, texture, and excellent grip. $5 + barely any effort.
Unless there is some gigantic advantage to powder-coating over hand painting/spraying. In which case--exactly, do whatever you like.
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TheMuffin
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Date Posted:
1/25 4:08am
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RE: LED Blade Q and A's
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Simple answer? Powder coating creates a hard coat on the surface, unlike paint. The baking process causes the powder to bond with the aluminum/steel, which in turn makes it much harder to chip off if you drop it.
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TheDisturbance
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Date Posted:
1/25 11:06am
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RE: LED Blade Q and A's
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Evil-Henchman posted:
GreytaleNovastar1138 posted:
I still don't see any tutorials, Evil Henchman! ........................................ (!)
Oh wait, I can't even see what I'm typing since my monitor is defunct... so... never you mind there Mr. Evil. Dr. Evil. Henchman. Both.
I hope I spelled everything correctly since I CLEARLY cannot see what I am typing. If I didn't, I'll make sure to post an apology...
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... IN THE TUTORIALS SECTION OF TIM'S TCSS SITE!!!  
JK...
I don't get it.
You know, if I hadn't seen some of your youtube videos. I would still be doubting that English is your first language. The PMs we were sending to eachother awhile back is what led me to believe that... and the post quoted above is along the same vein. I'm not trying to be insulting, just stating an observation. It's just that you can be hard to understand at times and some of what you say can easily be misinterpreted because of the way you word it.
As for the post above, the only interpretations I can gather by the way you worded it is that 1, you are unaware that you can click the pics I posted which then opens them up to full size and makes the text on them perfectly readable or 2, you were drunk or high when you made that post. It's all about how you articulate the message you are trying to get across. Articulate wrong and the meaning can and probably will be misinterpreted.
Of course this can work in reverse. Perhaps I am not in the right mindset to interpret your post properly whilst everyone else reading it may know exactly what you meant. Regardless, no hard feelings, just stating an observation.
I also don't get GreytaleNovastar's joke either. I have observed his interpretation of a situation and his articulation to be way off at times also. I saw no ill intent in the way you articulated yourself Evil-Henchman. For what it's worth.
.....and back to our regular scheduled programming. 
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TheMuffin
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Date Posted:
1/25 11:44am
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RE: LED Blade Q and A's
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Seriously dude. Do you sit in the shadows waiting for an argument to start just so you can throw your two cents in and knock things back off topic? 
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TheDisturbance
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Date Posted:
1/25 12:28pm
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With the recent derailing of this thread going on with the bickering. I thought I post something that's ON topic.
http://m.youtube.com/details?v=evb5Zl_31_g&warned=1
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Sister_Sola
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Date Posted:
1/25 1:35pm
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Disturbing, when things are over/finis/dealt with you always seem to bring them up again and throw in a little more negativity to get people riled up.
That discussion was over, closed, and the thread was about sabres again - JUST LEAVE IT. It wasn't even your argument.
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thedisturbance007
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Here's the desktop verson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evb5Zl_31_g
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GreytaleNovastar1138
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1/25 11:28pm
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TheMuffin posted:
Simple answer? Powder coating creates a hard coat on the surface, unlike paint. The baking process causes the powder to bond with the aluminum/steel, which in turn makes it much harder to chip off if you drop it.
That makes sense, but... I've not chipped off nor "rubbed away" much of the paint I used on my sabers.
And as you know, our sabers get used most every week. Something like twice a week, for at least 5 total hours per week. I can't speak for others, but... the "Rustoleum" paints I've used seem to work pretty well, and again--I believe the rigors we put the sabers under are what most would consider "very harsh"!
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TheMuffin
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1/26 8:15am
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For some reason I can never get Krylon, Rustoleum or any other brand to stick well. I always sand the metal to get grooves for the paint to adhere to, I always primer it first, and then two coats of paint, and then a sealant. Doesn't matter as even after 2 days of curing I can still just take my nail to it and scrape it off super easy. And this is on TCSS modular pieces as well as the regular aluminum I use.
I dunno what I must be doing wrong, or maybe you have extremely good luck but I'm pretty much tired of trying to get this stuff to stick.
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Evil-Henchman
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1/26 6:09pm
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My saber making "mentor" stated that black primer from a spray can works well in deep grooves and such. I tired it and he was right. It stays on pretty well. A lot better than the paints I have tried.
I have also powder coated a saber hilt. That stuff is awesome and better than the primer. It's also very thick compared to paint but that's kind of a plus as you can sand it for a duller finish.
I'm going to try anodizing next. I'm not sure how much that will cost though.
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GreytaleNovastar1138
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Date Posted:
1/26 7:00pm
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TheMuffin posted:
For some reason I can never get Krylon, Rustoleum or any other brand to stick well. I always sand the metal to get grooves for the paint to adhere to, I always primer it first, and then two coats of paint, and then a sealant. Doesn't matter as even after 2 days of curing I can still just take my nail to it and scrape it off super easy. And this is on TCSS modular pieces as well as the regular aluminum I use.
I dunno what I must be doing wrong, or maybe you have extremely good luck but I'm pretty much tired of trying to get this stuff to stick.
Well, in many cases, I'm "tiring" (sorry, I mean trying) Rustoleum's "anti-slip" aerosols. That might be the difference, although I'd have to test differing sprays to look for differing results.
For the record, I've sprayed the "anti-slip" stuff on TCSS parts/hilts, unsanded sink tubes and so forth--it stays put for the mostpart, although YES--some touch-ups are needed. But then again--like I said--I put these things through massive amounts of rigor.
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TheMuffin
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Date Posted:
1/26 9:42pm
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Evil-Henchman posted:
My saber making "mentor" stated that black primer from a spray can works well in deep grooves and such. I tired it and he was right. It stays on pretty well. A lot better than the paints I have tried.
I have also powder coated a saber hilt. That stuff is awesome and better than the primer. It's also very thick compared to paint but that's kind of a plus as you can sand it for a duller finish.
I'm going to try anodizing next. I'm not sure how much that will cost though.
I would think anodizing would be cheaper. After all, all they would be doing is electrifying a water based solution with what equates to food coloring in it.
I was debating that myself though. While Powder Coating looks gorgeous, anodizing will hold up to just about anything since the color actually becomes a part of the aluminum. It doesn't just sink into the pores.
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Corbin-Das
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Date Posted:
1/29 2:26am
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Hi folks
It's been a while since I've been over here so I thought I'd check in and say hi. I'm all moved into the other place now and trying to get my new workshop all set up to start getting back into the swing of things since I'm no longer with TCSS. Lots of saber projects waiting...
I see folks are talking about saber finishes. Among the things I'm going to be doing is a moly/teflon coating service. This is similar to powder coating, though in my experience, it's more appropriate for items that are going to be handled a lot. Moly coating is one of the things they do for some types of Military firearms, where durability and resistance to chipping or flaking is important. Since moly/teflon coating doesn't add much to the thickness of a part, they don't have to worry about tolerances like they might with a thicker coat. I've already got the special oven. I just need the spraying cabinet and the air gun. Powder coating is a good system, don't get me wrong. I just prefer moly coating and plan on making it available for others, if they're interested.
Anyway, now that I'll have more free time available, you can expect to see me put one of my CF driver/soundboards into the Killer Penny saber. I have a couple other sabers that need finishing too, one of which will have the another CF board installed. By the way, I'm thinking of selling off a couple of my MHS sabers. Just FYI.
I'm thinking 2008 will be a great year for the saber community. There are several of us developing different saber related things, there's new technology to keep raising the bar and the consumer has (and WILL have) more and more choices. I'm looking forward to seeing what the year has in store.
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TheMuffin
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Date Posted:
1/29 4:23am
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So you've piqued my curiosity. Can this teflon coating come in different colors?
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