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Lucius_Belmont
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4/19 7:47pm
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RE: Blade Replacement questions.
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I know that that the color portion of the question as been answered.
So I take it that the Luxeons use the blade film as well?
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LAN-ED-TUL
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4/20 11:39pm
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theres no lights or electronics in the blades whatsoever after the convert.
you replace the whole blade with a new one, that either has a film or a tube diffuser in it.
the led in mounted in the hilt itself, thus, making the blade removeable for belt hangin, and pop in blade tighten up set screww, and wale away on some poor jedi.
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Lucius_Belmont
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Date Posted:
4/22 5:03pm
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So Luxeon utilizes just one LED light and a polycarbonate tube with blade film in it?
Whats the difference between a diffuser and blade film?
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AramysStrael
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Date Posted:
4/25 10:22am
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There are blades, which are completely clear. Then there are blade diffusers, which are blades that have a film coating on the inside. Case in point, the 40 inch blade diffuser is designed to fit inside of the 40 inch thick walled polyc blade tube.
Of course you can buy the blade film by itself and mock up a blade yourself. Sounds like you are to have an extended blade, 5 ft, right? Then perhaps it would be wise to get all of the parts like blade film, blade tips and any of the other lighting accessories that you will likely need and go to a plastic shop to get a clear tube (a place like Tap Plastics like I suggested in a previous post). Get your 5ft length and then just use the blade film that you have obtained from TCSS and get to the task of filming the blade's interior wall.
I think that is just about the best advice that can be given.
-Bill
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Evil-Henchman
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Date Posted:
4/25 5:41pm
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RE: Blade Replacement questions.
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The problem is that blade film is also about 40" long so regardless of what material is used, there will be a line where one piece meets or overlaps the other in a 5' blade. However it is possible that Tim at TCSS can get custom lengths of either material so shooting him an email might be a good idea.
Blade film comes in small rolls. You have to unroll it, rotate it 90 degrees and then roll it up again. The blade film that TCSS uses provides a "coring" look that looks really cool. By coring I meant that there appears to be a very small (in diameter) vertical beam of light that is brighter than the surrounding light, going up the center of the blade.
Blade diffusers are a white, thin walled (just under 1/32nd of an inch) tube. They provide a brighter blade and have more even lighting throughout (even went the blade flexes) than blade film does. However blade diffusers do not provide the "coring" look. If you were to use 2 blade diffusers, you would probably want to butt them up against each other as opposed to overlapping.
Having installed and used both, I am totally sold on the diffusers and much prefer them to the film. However that's just my personal preference. A lot of people have to have the "coring" look.
I hope that helps.
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Jedi-Loreen
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4/25 7:28pm
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I have bought polycarbonate tubing in 8' lengths at a local plastic supplier, but if you want anything over 4' shipped to you, it's going to cost about triple the price, because it's over-sized. I know this because I had something over that length shipped to me, just out of curiosity.
If you really have your heart set on a 5' blade, then your best bet is definitely to find a plastic supplier that you can drive to and pick it up yourself.
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AramysStrael
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4/26 1:21am
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I can't rave enough about TCSS. I placed an order for parts to complete the stun baton (yeah, I know. I am long overdue on that project). They had caught an error on my part. I has inadvertently placed a double order. Tim called me yesterday to confirm that I meant to place both orders. When I had mentioned that all I wanted was the one order ( the computer was giving me fits) he promptly cancelled that second order.
That is the mark of excellent business practices. I will be sure to do more business with him in the future!
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Lucius_Belmont
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Date Posted:
4/27 6:34am
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Evil-Henchman posted:
Blade diffusers are a white, thin walled (just under 1/32nd of an inch) tube. They provide a brighter blade and have more even lighting throughout (even went the blade flexes) than blade film does. However blade diffusers do not provide the "coring" look. If you were to use 2 blade diffusers, you would probably want to butt them up against each other as opposed to overlapping.
Having installed and used both, I am totally sold on the diffusers and much prefer them to the film. However that's just my personal preference. A lot of people have to have the "coring" look.
I hope that helps.
Since I'm not sure what "coring" means when it comes to Lightsaber blades. Can you supply pics of a same color color ligthsaber, just one with a blade disffuser and one with blade film? Even though I'm near certain on using a blade diffuser,due to a lot less work it seems, i want to be entirely sure.
While this is all well and good, I cant find Luke ANH conversion kit online. this is rather important to the overall task, lol. TCSS doesnt hae em nor does some other sites I checked.
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Evil-Henchman
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Date Posted:
4/27 11:42am
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RE: Blade Replacement questions.
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Lucius_Belmont posted:
Since I'm not sure what "coring" means when it comes to Lightsaber blades. Can you supply pics of a same color color ligthsaber, just one with a blade disffuser and one with blade film? Even though I'm near certain on using a blade diffuser,due to a lot less work it seems, i want to be entirely sure.
I'll try to get some pics up for ya tonight or tomorrow but I'm not sure the coring effect will show up in digital photography.
Lucius_Belmont posted:
While this is all well and good, I cant find Luke ANH conversion kit online. this is rather important to the overall task, lol. TCSS doesnt hae em nor does some other sites I checked.
Here ya go...
http://www.ultrasabers.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MIC%2DLANH
You have to mail it in to them and have them do the work but it's probably worth it. It shouldn't be too hard to replace the blade on your own if you want it longer.
Edit: Here are a couple of pics I took awhile back to hold you over until I can take new ones. The pic with the lit blade is using blade film. As I thought, the coring effect does not show up all that well but you can see it a little bit. It's the brighter white-ish line running up and down the center of the length of the blade. The other pic shows what blade film looks like unrolled.
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Evil-Henchman
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4/28 4:24pm
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Alright here are 2 pics showing the difference between blade diffusers and blade film. The saber on top in both pics is using the blade diffuser. The coring effect can be seen in the bottom saber in both pics. As you can see, the saber with the blade diffuser is brighter and more evenly lit but does not display the coring effect.
You can get more even lighting by using clear polypropylene wrap along with the blade film but it does lower the brightness of the blade a tiny bit and can be difficult to cut and roll up properly. Also, some have done dual, triple and quad wraps using blade film. I tried that and didn't like the results. Again there is more even lighting but each layer just makes the blade dimmer, much more so that using one wrap of clear polypropylene with a single wrap of blade film.
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Lucius_Belmont
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Date Posted:
4/30 6:02pm
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RE: Blade Replacement questions.
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Im sold on the blade diffuser, I didnt see much of a difference. If it lights up, its good by me,lol. Thanks for the link.
But can i get Blade Diffuser custom cut? Becuase 40'+40'= 80', which is over 5 feet.
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Evil-Henchman
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Date Posted:
4/30 11:23pm
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Lucius_Belmont posted:
Im sold on the blade diffuser, I didnt see much of a difference.
Seriously? I mean no offense but the differences really are quite obvious. While it may look like I spliced 2 pics together for each pic, that is not the case. I happen to have 2 identical saber hilts (part of a double-bladed saber hilt I have yet to finish) so you are actually seeing two lit up sabers side by side using the same type of LED from the same production batch. Both hilts are using 4 brand new AAA lithium batteries.
Lucius_Belmont posted:
But can i get Blade Diffuser custom cut? Becuase 40'+40'= 80', which is over 5 feet.
I don't know if you can get them custom cut or in lengths over 40". I strongly recommend that you send an email to TCSS to find out. I cut mine myself with a utility knife. However that does leave stress marks on the cut end. Still, if you only cut one of them and the cut end of the shorter piece is placed on the inside of the hilt towards the LED then you would have factory-cut ends touching eachother in the blade itself which should look ok.
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Jedi-Loreen
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5/1 4:11pm
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Seriously, I really don't know why you still want a 5' blade, it's going to look kind of ludicrous.
Do you really want to pay probably more than twice the price of the blade, just for shipping it to you? In case I didn't make myself clear earlier, UPS, and I imagine other shipping companies, considers anything over 4' to be over size and charges dearly for shipping it.
With that in mind, if Tim has his blade tubing shipped, it would be foolish of him to order anything longer than 48", since he doesn't sell any blades in his shop longer than 40".
I guess it wouldn't hurt to find out if you can get a 5' blade, just be prepared for the shock of the shipping charge.
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Lucius_Belmont
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5/5 7:26pm
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Jedi-Loreen:I'm willing to dish out for that, call me crazy or whatever. Also, if Sephiroth were to be a Jedi, its obivous that it would over length-ed.
Evil-Henchman: In terms of does of "look like crap" or "awesome" or "good enough to be lazy"
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Evil-Henchman
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5/6 2:08am
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Lucius_Belmont posted:
Evil-Henchman: In terms of does of "look like crap" or "awesome" or "good enough to be lazy"
Since I'm not sure which part of my post you're referring to... all of the above. 
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