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kreleia
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Date Posted:
9/27/01 11:33pm
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RE: Handmaiden Costumes
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9/28/01 12:27am (2 edits total)
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kreleia
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McCall's has a *great* cloak pattern with a hood that you can use for the handmaiden's hoods (or even the entire dark maroon cloak) - it's actually the same cloak pattern I used on my White Parade Gown. ^.^ The pattern number is #8936 (you can see a picture of the pattern cover here). Simplicity also has a similar pattern, as does Vogue - apparently, capes are "in" this fall.  Guess all the Jedi, Sith, SCA members and Cosplayers running around have finally convinced fashion designers that capes, cloaks and a good pair of boots are pretty nifty after all. **laugh**
kreleia ^.^
EDIT: It just occurred to me that the hood I'm talking about isn't the one on the green gown. SORRY! ^^; But it *would* work for the mustard yellow gown, the "flame" gown, and the dark maroon gown.
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Malla
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Date Posted:
10/1/01 8:01pm
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RE: Handmaiden Costumes
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The theed gown looks very Roman based (i believe i posted some similarities over at amber's board?).
I'd definately love to hear about the head scarf too. The "overcoat" looks like a smaller version of a kimono. The two should be real easy to saftey pen together so it doesn't float about.
how would you go about pleating the fabric?
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brat-of-kansas
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10/1/01 8:04pm
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RE: Handmaiden Costumes
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hey can anybody give ideas on the green celebration handmaiden gown?
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Malla
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Date Posted:
10/4/01 6:09pm
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RE: Handmaiden Costumes
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It looks like velvet- the hood part of the gown. The stamping suggestion used in one of the earlier threads would be a good idea too- for the Naboo insignia in the middle.
I might try looking at McCall's Hooded shirts patterns- or something to that extent. A modified poncho maybe..
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Darth_Eagle
Title: Fanforce CR Singapore
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Date Posted:
10/5/01 8:34am
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RE: Handmaiden Costumes
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Malla, can you e-mail me privately at darth_eagle@yahoo.com concerning something I can't get at your website?
Thanks!
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ladyelwing
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Date Posted:
10/6/01 10:15am
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RE: Handmaiden Costumes
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I'm working on the Celebration Gown
right now actually. It seems to be
various shades of green velvet.
The hoop pattern is pretty easy to find.
Check out the Civil War Patterns.
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LadyAnakinSkywalker
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Date Posted:
10/6/01 1:43pm
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RE: Handmaiden Costumes
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Katarra Kreations makes just about any SW costume under the sun.
http://www.katarra.com
But, if you're like me, you'd probably rather just make it yourself.
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Réka
Title: Ventura County CA FF Costumes and Props Expert
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Date Posted:
10/8/01 3:38pm
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RE: Handmaiden Costumes
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All right, my eyewitness account of the yellow throne room gown... 18 months after the fact, so I apologize in advance if I get the details wrong.
First, the color: as someone correctly noted, it's definitely not a sunny yellow. Mustard, dark yellow, yellowish tan, that sort of thing. This is the best picture available online.
Layer 1: Fabric is a dark yellow silk shantung type, pleated in even 1/2" pleats. This is made into a fairly simple, but constructed dress, i.e. not a wrap or a sarong, but actually sewn. The pleating made it a bit difficult to tell where the seams were, though. The dress is several inches longer than floor length, so it makes a lovely puddle effect on the floor. The rounded-off square neckline is piped with self-fabric piping.
Layer 2: Fabric is a slightly lighter yellow, lighter weight silk, broomstick-pleated. This is made into a wide obi-style belt or bodice or whateveryouwannacallit. It goes from just below the bust to just above the hips, with the pleating horizontal.
Layer 3: Fabric is a slightly more orangey-yellow velvet, but not a heavyweight type. A good-quality polyester velour would be a closer match than the thick, heavy, expensive velvet you find on the hangers in fabric stores. This is made into a straight robe/jacket thingy, slightly longer in the back than in the front (reaching just above the ankles in back, middle of shin in front). The sleeves were hard to figure out, because the mannequin I saw it displayed on didn't have arms. My guess is they are similar to the flame dress--hanging sleeves with the hand coming out somewhere on the side, and the bottom edges sewn together. The finishing touches were piped edges all around, including sandwiched in the seams of the sleeves; and the red decoration painted or dyed on the bottom corners of sleeves and robe. Unfortunately, I was too stupid to take along a sketchbook, so I can't really tell you what the designs were, other than a geometric cross-hatchy thingy. As far as method of application, it looked like a concentrated dye was painted on and allowed to dry.
Layer 4 (headdress): Fabric is the same as layer three. This is pretty much a triangular veil, with elongated corners. You'll have to experiment with shape and size to get the right effect. Again, all the edges are piped, and the veil is lined with a similar-color silky fabric. Each corner has a bit of the painted/dyed decoration. IIRC, the front corners have Amidala's emblem (the vaguely fleur-de-lis type design). I completely forget what was on the back corner, but I would assume something similar to what's on the robe.
I hope that's somewhat helpful to somebody. Also, I think the green celebration dress is fairly similar, at least as far as the basic idea of silk underdress/velvet overdress, and definitely as far as the triangular veil.
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Darth_Eagle
Title: Fanforce CR Singapore
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Date Posted:
10/10/01 5:29am
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Thanks Réka! That had been most useful.
About the 3rd layer, (cloth on the shoulder) , I think I've to agree with Malla on using a kimono like coat but with very wide sleeves and the top part is lower than the upper. And on the pleats, are you sure it's ~1/2"? It looks a lot more smaller to me . . . .
I'll see if I can afford to have the gown fabric specially tailored one of these days.
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Réka
Title: Ventura County CA FF Costumes and Props Expert
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Date Posted:
10/10/01 9:28am
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RE: Handmaiden Costumes
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Obviously, I'm not sure of the exact pleating depth--I didn't have a ruler along--but it wasn't extremely fine. If 1/2" looks wrong to you, try 3/8", but I wouldn't go much finer than that. (And actually, I'd say as long as you get a pleated fabric, any pleated fabric, it will look ok. )
For the jacket, I'm not sure what you mean by that "top part is lower than the upper" part. ?:| As far as the jacket pattern--kimonos have slanted fronts (which wrap around to form the associated V-neck), so if you use a kimono pattern, you'll need to delete that slant. (Check the picture--the bottom front corners are nice right angles, not the acute angles you'd get with a kimono-type pattern.)
Good luck to anyone making handmaiden dresses, and post pictures of your finished products!
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brat-of-kansas
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Date Posted:
10/11/01 7:26am
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believe it nor not i was playing around with my pattern for my handmaiden green celebration gown last night and I found that using the McCalls 8936(women's cape and cloak/with hood) can pass for the perfect pattern for those making the presenate handmaiden cloaks or those making the green handmaiden celebration gown like moi:P
check it out!!!!
i thank kreleia for the pattern though:)
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Malla
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Date Posted:
10/11/01 9:30pm
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RE: Handmaiden Costumes
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if you look at the very, very bottem of the coat, it's uneven. I think its best seen in the concept pictures- the front is a bit short, with the back almost dragging on the floor.
It's quite something- i think i have a picture of it somewhere..
Sorry Darth Eagle- crosswinds took down my site for a while because i put initials in instead of my real name (bummer, eh?). It should be back up now, but i'll email ya too.
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brat-of-kansas
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Date Posted:
10/14/01 11:07pm
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well yeah that is whole point of the pattern i got for those purposes alone...DUH!!!! Not that the handmaiden gowns that are being focused on now aren't kewl, it's just that maybe it is high time that the other ones be brought into the light:)
we all see the sign and it's the naboo royal insignia...
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Darth_Eagle
Title: Fanforce CR Singapore
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Date Posted:
10/15/01 5:22am
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RE: Handmaiden Costumes
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Opss Réka, I was a bit blur when I posted about the coat.  What I meant was about the sleeves. In one of the side photo of the gown, part of the scarf (think it's the coat sleeves "cuffs") looks like it's wide & slant down, something like Sidious' Robe sleeves. But this is just my hypothesis.
As for the front of the coat, I got in mind something similar to what is being employed for Amidala's Ep2 Blue gown coat, only the open part is wider and cut straight from the shoulder. It's like putting a scarf on your shoulders to cover your hands and side of body.
And as just a little tips, I've listed out all the Cloak/Robe patterns from McCall's or Simplicity I know of, you can use to make the Coruscant Cloak/robe (or anything else you see in them);)
McCall's
-2810
-2937 (for kids? "patterns" for Harry Potters characters?)
-3289 (?)
-8937 (also have for kids)
-8936
Simplicity
-9452
-9887
Ps: How does the inner cloak/robe looks like 4 the Coruscant Cloak? Is it the one Rabé wore when she meet up with Anakin in Amidala's apartment? ?:|
Heehee, we so far got all except 2 of the Handmaids gowns covered- Senate one and the QGJ's funeral. Any attempt on the 2 later on for anyone?
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Réka
Title: Ventura County CA FF Costumes and Props Expert
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Date Posted:
10/15/01 4:56pm
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Yes, the verdict of the RHS was that Rabé's blue/purple getup is what is worn underneath the maroon cloaks. (The evidence is the head-wrap visible underneath the velvet cloaks, with two ends hanging down the back. Rabé's headdress is the same fabric, although the color can look different from picture to picture, and it looks like it may have ends hanging down the back.)
As far as anyone can tell, the maroon cloaks were also worn for the funeral. The only other possibility would be the black senate dresses, but those have that telltale silver stripe down the middle, which would have shown even with the handmaidens as hidden in the shadows as they were. (Also, the black dress has sleeves, but the shadowy shapes at the funeral don't have visible arms.)
Speaking of the black senate dress, it was also on display at the exhibit I saw. I'll have to find a description I wrote shortly after, because I can't recall the details at all, except the fact that the fabric was, well, strange. It looked like it was assembled from long 1" wide strips of black slightly-stretchy velveteen, with the strips serged together and the seams on the outside. Not my favorite ensemble, all in all. (Good thing they weren't seen much in the film.)
I haven't looked at the patterns suggested for the cloak & hood, but I want to say that the green dress doesn't have a hood. As far as I can tell, it has the same triangular veil thingy as the yellow dress. Of course, unlike the latter, I haven't seen the green dress up-close-and-personal, so I may be misinterpreting the pictures I have seen. Does anyone have any links to pictures that would conclusively prove one or the other interpretation?
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