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Amidala-Leia
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Date Posted:
7/7/02 5:19pm
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RE: Padme Purple Dress
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It's okay to be lengthy, FERD You've helped me out a lot. I know you talked about the headpiece, but what are you planning to do for the dress? I want to make it, but I want it to be good. And as for the piping, I would say that it looks more mauve to me than lavender or purple, but the way the light shines on it sometimes it does look to be another color.
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FERDALUMP
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Date Posted:
7/7/02 5:39pm
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RE: Padme Purple Dress
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I found the fabric at this great store in town that has an awesome 4th of July sale (40% off) I got a beautiful midnight purple ( a dead on match to the pictures I had) in a matte satin. I was going to use the silk connection velvet ( but when I called to order it was out of stock until august?) I thought about embossing the velvet--but I found a great deep purple velvet that has an awesome crinkle kinda look to it--and I think it looks an awful lot like the original. I then got a bunch of swaroski crystals in a few different sizes in Jet AB, Bermuda Blue, Capri Blue, Vitrail Med, also some black irredescent sequins and bugle beads to do the center "V" and embellishments of the jacket. I plan to use some middy braid in the color and I plan to do the "celtic" kind of embroidery to the skirt and inner sleeves. I was going to build in a stiff net petticoat in the lining to give the right regal look. I just am trying to decide what color of fabric to use to make all that piping. I plan on posting a picture of the materials--just because they look so pretty just laying there. I would be happy to help explain how I'm constructing it (a tutorial?) the only thing is that my version is going to be very small (a child's size 5) As far as yardage--I bought 6 yards of 48" velvet and 5 yards of 60" wide satin. I bought 25 yards of middy braid, and I think 5 gross of stones, and a bunch of sequins and beads. I just need lining, net and that blessed piping material and cord.
Ferd
By the way---How many days until Halloween???
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surlygirlie
Title: Manager Emeritus
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Date Posted:
7/7/02 6:54pm
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It's a sad testament to what a freak of nature I am when it comes to Halloween that I can tell you without having to consult a calendar that there are 116 days left until Halloween, Ferd.
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Jedi Girl of Corellia
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7/7/02 9:23pm
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LOL surly! My parents don't let me trick or treat anymore. So the best I can hope for is to find a party to go to.
I'm still trying to decide on the fabric for the inner dress. I found some cheap fabric bonanza stuff at JoAnns. And the color is pretty close, but it is much too thin. So I think I may need to get satin for this. The only question is if I can find the right color.
Do you think that she wore a hoop skirt underneath? There has to be some kind of support for that heavy velvet.
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FERDALUMP
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Date Posted:
7/8/02 8:06am
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SG- or shall I say SG Skellington? You must treat Halloween like I do--you'd think I were a witch
As far as an underfabric--I feel the underdress should be made of a decent weight fabric to look good with all that rich velvet. After I make the underdress I plan on going from there about the undergarments--A steel hoop would probably be a good idea with some netting to push the hem out a little since the fullness is at the bottom.
FERD
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Jauhzmynn
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7/8/02 10:29am
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I'm sure she had too. Poor Padme'. All that heavy fabric in that heat. Maybe check wedding dress shops for a hoop skirt or even advice on what assembly to use. The wedding shops might be exspensive though.:(
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Mrs_MayimNaar
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Date Posted:
7/8/02 11:26am
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LOL -- I had forgotten about the need for undergarments to make the dress fuller! Luckily I just got married in December, so I already have a perfectly good netting/slip!
All this wedding dress talk has gotten me thinking about my own wedding dress. The dress itself is similar to Padme's underdress, as far as thickness, texture and design go! So, that said, I dug it out of the closet (I'm so bad -- I still need to preserve it) and out of it's garment bag to look it over. Here are my observations that would be helpful in the making of this dress:
- The fabric is a very heavy bridal satin. It isn't you typical satin; it's very thick and very silky. I am not a fabric expert, but I know the closest thing you're going to find to it is in the evening/bridal section of the fabric store.
- The dress is two layers of fabric sewn together: a lining and the thick satin. The Satin forms a three-four inch hem on the underside of the skirt.
- The dress itself has a layer of netting sewn to the underside of the skirt. It helped to fluff the dress out a little on its own, but without the slip it looks a little deflated.
- Finally, the beading on my dress gave me a thought regarding how to bead this one. The beads and sequin don't cover my whole dress; they are actually very very similar to the ones on Padme's. The beads and sequins are sewn first onto a separate layer of fabric that was then applied to the dress itself. Does that make sense? This is a good was to keep the beads/sequins uniform.
Anyways, that all said, I'll shut up now! Sorry it was so long! I just had a brainstorm and had to get it out!
It is good to know that I now have something to model the skirt of my costume after!
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Jedi Girl of Corellia
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Date Posted:
7/8/02 5:49pm
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Well I've got a sketch of the beading for the bodice part drawn out. It looks like it is four rows of beads sewn on into the pattern. I'll try and get the sketch up soon. (I'm making a section on the web page I run for this dress )
I have an 1860's era hoop skirt. But that is not going to work. The skirt is not that full. So I think I'm going to make a partial frame that will work in the back of the skirt. It looks as if there isn't really anthing in the front that is holding the skirt up.
And I'm getting very frustrated. For the underdress I've found the lining for the sleeves. The color for the inner sleeve, but still not the right color for the dress!! Aggg! Well I'll keep looking.
Ummm and does anyone know what color the sequins on the front are? I haven't the slightest idea. And are those sequins as well on the back part of the outer robes' neck and shoulders?
Mrs. M. I know what you mean about the beads. All except on the sleeves are sewn onto panels that have been attached to the dress. One question tho. Do you think that the front panel on the skirt is just hanging by the waistband or is it actually sewn onto the skirt front?
Ok, now I'm done... Boy that was a long one.
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queenseamstress
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Date Posted:
7/9/02 5:16am
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I also saw the dress up close at CII-I was practically hanging over the ropes looking up the sleeves and all over! he he he
The piping is in a true lavendar...same material as the robe lining. The sequins are indigo (bluish-purple) and purple combined.
The underdress or bodice/skirt combo are definitely a very nice purple taffeta. I had just spent 4 months with iridescent taffeta all over my house-adn this was the exact same stuff, just a different color. It has a weird sheen to it, and a much stiffer texture than satin-you can see every wrinkle in the light. It is a very hard to dye fabric, so you will want to get as close as possible to the correct color.
The overcoat is a burnout velvet-and the back piping at the waist is done in a lot of sections to get the waist to be right-that will be a major pain in the rear...
The headpiece is more of a burnished gold, like the Leia slave bikini...and the headpiece is a hollow frame lined with tiny braids of fake hair, so Nat could have her real hair stored in the hollow part. Her real hair was teased heavily-to give something for the headress to be anchored to with combs or pins so it would not fall off. That is why it is so "nappy" in close pictures. The same thing is done when little old ladies wear "wiglets" to add fullness to their thinning hair.
I beleive the headpiece is also made of metal and riveted together.
The sequined piece on the bodice looks to be a separate panel, sewn underneath the bodice.
Oh-and Obi-Dawn was right-the dress looks so powerful, it is surprising when you see the real thing, and it is so tiny...Nat must be about 5 foot tall and 95 pounds-the shoulders in this dress were so small also!
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Obi-Dawn Kenobi
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Yes queenseamstress, it is remarkable how teenie tiny this dress is in real life.
I agree about the sequin colors. They did seem to be a mix of indigo blue and purple. Very sparkly and very pretty.
Just a quick observation about the skirt from watcing it in the film. When she sits down it seems very pliable and soft. I'm not all that familiar with hoop skirts and the logisitcs of sitting in them, but whatever is her underskirt is constructed with seemed very easy to sit down in.
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queenseamstress
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7/9/02 9:34am
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Rather than a hoop skirt, I think she may have worn a netting crinoline-I had one at my wedding, and it gives plenty of fullness without a telltale "ring" around the bottom of the skirt, and do not distort when you sit down...if you don't have one, you could always make one with a pattern-and use lavender netting/bridal mesh to match-in case you have to lift your skirt when climbing steps... Has anyone seen a glimpse of a shoe in this dress?
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Mrs_MayimNaar
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7/9/02 10:03am
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Qs my thoughts exactly, on the slip. The one I wore with my wedding dress was perfect. And Obi-Dawn, if you sit down in one of those it gives that same effect as she has sitting down in hers.
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Obi-Dawn Kenobi
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7/9/02 10:20am
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Thanks Mrs_M, but I already knew that seeing as how I wore one with my own wedding gown.
I was implying in my last post that Padme is not wearing a 'hoop' skirt because there had been previous discussion of that possibility earlier in this thread.
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Jedi Girl of Corellia
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7/9/02 10:48am
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Yeah, that was why I was questioning the whole hoop skirt thing. When she sits it doesn't flip up like most will. But will crinoline be enough to hold up the velvet? Or does the velvet trail on the floor, and that's what keeps it from being so heavy?
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queenseamstress
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7/9/02 12:59pm
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The velvet trails a bit onto the floor in back...the same sort of "puddle" in the EpI pre-senate gown. It is not really all that full...more of a clean drape from the waist back. The back of the robe is very defined at the wasit, and the sleeves pinned to teh back sort of give an illusion of it being more full than it really is...
Obi-Dawn-I knew you meant the hoop from the earlier discussion...reminds me of an ancient Laverne and Shirley episode...ha ha ha-you gals over 23-24 may remember that episode.
My aunt had a gorgeous wedding gown my mother in law made...and no matter how many times she told her it wasn't a good idea-she wanted to wear a hoop skirt. Well, needless to say-she had a nice "rim" around the bottom of her dress, about 4 inches from the hemline...really tacky.
Does anyone have any ideas for shoes if there are no available pics or shots of them?
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