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surlygirlie
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Date Posted:
7/9/02 1:16pm
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RE: Padme Purple Dress
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Yes Ferd, I am Halloween obsessed. It's my absolute favorite day of the year.  Stitch Witches unite!
On hoops or lack thereof, I was thinking that a single ring of plastic featherweight boning set into an underlayer of a netting crinoline at around knee level might help push the skirt out without causing any seating oddities. Just a thought, though, as this has not been field tested.
I did also notice in the film that Padme doesn't really "sit" in this dress so much as she sort of "perches" on the edge of her couch. This could be necessitated by her foundation garment.
As for shoes qs the idea that immediately springs to mind is having a pair dyed to match the dress...
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FERDALUMP
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Date Posted:
7/9/02 3:08pm
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RE: Padme Purple Dress
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I have to say I'm anti-hoop myself. I was a southern belle for a costume wedding and spent the entire night with my hoop bell "ringing" and hardly being able to fit under the table--very akward. I'm familiar with those wedding gown crinoline's (from my own Big-Day--although it might be dry rotted LOL! ) I have built similar things for children- so that's probably the route I will go with this one. I haven't seen the real dress in person, but agree that it is Taffeta (that horrible wretched fabric) I decided to go with the heavy matte satin I found whose color is so nice, becasue mainly those wrinkles and a 6 year old don't mix!! I have found some great sequins I think are the colors you describe, but am going to combine glass rhinestones with it for some more shine and color (Jet AB, Vitrail Med) are really close to the colors you describe.
Thanks QS- for the piping confirmation! Considering all the yards of it--I want it to look right--so thanks again!
I will post pics of the materials I chose, so ya'll can tell me what you think.
Ferd
P.S. In regards to the shoes--for the wee one I'm probably going to make some matching slippers (sort of like Isotoners) and add some sequins and stones. She can't wear heels. But for us big ones--I don't know-maybe a sort of mule dyed to match with embellishments to match the center beading. Kinda like the "glass slipper" in Ever After. I can't see a plain shoe with such a glorious gown.
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Mrs_MayimNaar
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Date Posted:
7/9/02 3:48pm
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LOL -- Obi-Dawn I forgot I'm not the only newlywed here! haha
I was just agreeing with you on the anti-hoop skirt stance! 
BTW Ferd I forgot to mention earlier, I absolutly loved your idea for the headpiece. The cross-stitch hoops are a great idea.
I was also wondering about the possibility of paper-mache or <cough> duct tape? In the Picnic dress thread I noticed someone linked to a tutorial on creating your own dress form using duct tape or paper mache. I read through it and that got me thinking about this headpiece. I thought maybe it might be possible to use the same theory to create a shell for the headpiece.
What do you guys think?
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queenseamstress
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Date Posted:
7/9/02 4:39pm
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RE: Padme Purple Dress
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I think that with enough netting in the bottom of the crinoline, it will be fine without any boning or hoop...
I was thinking along the same lines as Ferd as far as the shoe...but then again, we are both Ever After freaks...ha ha ha
Ferd-you are right! taffeta is a wretched fabric...shows every pin hole, wrinkles, frays-even the gown at the archive had some wrinkling from the trip to Indy.
Embroidery hoops are a great idea-they can be embellished to look right-we jsut have to figure out what to use for the pieces going the opposite direction, and what to do about the turn screws...
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FERDALUMP
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Date Posted:
7/9/02 5:25pm
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Yes QS we all need those dreamy slippers in our closet. As far as using plaster of paris or paper mache' I think it would be a little too heavy to wear on your head--especially on an angle. Imagine wearing a pinata around on your head As far as the emboidery hoops-you can use the inner (non hinged) hoop and for the lateral parts you can use the flat wooden slats ( near the dowel rods in the craft store)these are flat and would give a slight bend for the cone sort of shape- Or I also found these reeds in the floral dept when I was researching the idea of weaving this "basket" frame. You could glue and then use those short metal tacks to make it appear nailed. Or you could use small wood brads to secure it. I think all these materials are quite light, and would wear well--of course this is all in theory.
As far as Taffeta--I personally would be have to be held at gunpoint to sew it again!! Too many horrible bridesmaids dresses out of that stuff giving me horrible flashbacks. Usually it's acetate,which is dryclean only and horribly wrinkly. If a drop of water gets on the stuff it water spots--so dying is definatly out of the question. They do have poly taffeta, but personally I feel the colors are not as vibrant as the regular (the only plus to Taffeta is those rich and vibrant colors)
FERD
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Jedi Girl of Corellia
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Date Posted:
7/9/02 10:50pm
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Well I was planning on sticking with satin, and I am going to toss the hoop skirt idea. But I don't agree with you that they are unfortable to wear or handle. It just takes a certain degree of... delicacy. But I have had my skirt flip up and flash bystanders when I was dancing with my partner, he swung me around a bit *too* fast.
For the dress/bodice, what color would you call it? I'm still trying to find the perfect shade.
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queenseamstress
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Date Posted:
7/10/02 5:55am
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This sounds really stupid-but fo ya'll remember the California Raisins? The underskirt and bodice are about the exact same color as they were...not Happy Meal Grimace purple...more of a raisin purple-while the robe is more of a true purple and lavender.
If you can find any old lithographs or ads with them in it-that is the color-don't everyone jump on Ebay at once!
Ferd-the reeds were exactly what I was thinking! They could be softened...
As far as working with taffeta...I used iridescent acetate taffeta before, and I washed it and hung it dry-I had to be creful because of the fraying-but after the sizing was removed, and it had been wet all over, it had such a beautiful drape and solved the water spot problem. It will not dye, but you can solve the water spot problem this way, and since it is not as stiff, it solves a lot of the wrinkles also and drapes a lot better-and it removes the "swish-swish" noise when you walk.
Horrible to sew-but it is easier to do the vines and sequins on than a more slippery fabric. Double edged sword...when I get around to doing this one...if I can find the right color I'll stick with it.
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FERDALUMP
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Date Posted:
7/10/02 7:44am
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RE: Padme Purple Dress
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QS- You always crack me up! Grimace purple and california raisins-  I have 1 or 2 of those running around here-they used to battle my smurfs (am I old or what?) LOL! So I would say that is the perfect shade of what I'm calling Midnight Purple. I'll check the name on the bolt of what I got, and see what they call it. You took away the "swish swish"  of your taffeta? Another great characteristic of that lovely bridesmaid fabric. I agree that taffeta and it's nice stiff texture makes it easy to embroider, but a nice heavy weight satin (peau de soie) takes beading quite well--it's really not flimsy. As far as the reeds--you soak them in water to make them more pliable, right? YEAH!! I'm actually making headway on something. WOO HOO! Finally, a word about hoops--anti-hoop might be a bit strong-I love GWTW and dream of wearing hoops everyday of my life-however, I must say that women today really have a hard time estimating their "hoop girth" as therefore may come off like a bull in a china shop, when they are trying their darndest to be a blushing magnolia. Maybe I just need to go to finishing school
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surlygirlie
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7/10/02 8:01am
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Eeeeeeeeeeeeek! California Raisins!?! Just when I had systematically erased all memory of them, qs brings the nightmare back! 
Obi-Dawn and qs, and anyone else who saw this dress in person, would you say the undergown in something like an eggplant color?
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Jauhzmynn
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Date Posted:
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Wow Natalie is that small? Whoa! Well then i'd fit her dress for sure. (Hieght etc. and I'm small but not that 95 Lbs, add 15 more and it's right.) as her i DO eat. :-D ) This padawan can pack it in, espically at Chinese buffets. :-)
The wedding dress is a simialr patern or right onb the money? TOo bad you can't dye it, but sicne it's sentimental, i wouldn't. Sometimes good thrift stores have loads of wedding dresses you can snag for a lot cheaper then buying the satin at a store. If it matches in apttern right on, then a few alterations to fit and dying would be somewhat easy. Not to mentiona heck of alot cheaper than buying a bolt of wedding dress weight satin, dying that, then sewing it.
drat now y'all got me wanting to make one fo these dresses and I've NO where to wear it. :-( :-)
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Mrs_MayimNaar
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Actually, only the skirt of my wedding dress is the same. The top is actually a halter, whereas the purple dress appears to be a corset and skirt combo.
LOL -- and you are right! It is too sentimental for me to dye it. Besides, that would take all the fun out of making it!
Fun? What am I saying?? I must be a glutton for punishment.
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Jedi Girl of Corellia
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Ok, I found a color that may work. Eggplant purple. Would you call the dress a cold or a warm purple? I found Casa satin (carried at your local JoAnns) in eggplant. It's a acetate/poly mix I think. I'd have to check again. And it's 7.99 a yard. But use one of your 40% offs and it's not a problem.
I've also got a pattern I'm going to use for the dress/bodice. Pattern 9466. And simplicity patterns at JoAnns are only 1.99 right now! (Geeze listen to my advertising.  )
Now all I need to do is find the right color beads! And decide what size to make this dress. As I am planning on selling it and not wearing it (I know it takes out all of the fun, but I desperatly need cash )
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queenseamstress
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I would make it in a size 9/10 or 11/12. All Padme costumes I have seen sold on Ebay are from a size 5 to an 8. There are a lot of girls who want to dress like a princess who actually eat.
If you are listing it on an auction site when you are done, do not hem the skirt-wait until you have a winner, and have them email you the length from their natural waist to the floor so it will not drag or be too short.
Funny you should mention casa satin from Joann's. My wedding dress was a renaissance ivory brocade with Joann's casa satin in antique gold lining the belled sleeves and in the underskirt, with gold grommets and gold ribbon and trim. My bridesmaids were all in antique gold and black casa satin renn dresses and headpieces. It is a very silky slippery fabric, but it has a beautiful drape and feel...it will be nice in eggplant.
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Jedi Girl of Corellia
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Yeah I am thinking it will work. And thanks for that info on the size. I think I'll make it for my sister (who is an 11). I think that she'll really enchance the outfit. She has this fabulous roman nose (it looks realy pretty on her) and it would be neat to see her wearing the headpiece. How much do you think that I could get for it?
(Also, I bet your wedding dresses and bridesmaids were gorgeous!)
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FERDALUMP
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Date Posted:
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As ya'll might know I'm currently tackling this beautiful gown. I have made a website to journal my progress. Just the home page is up now,but I will be adding pictures of the fabric and my subject this week, and will add journal entries frequently to give a tutorial on how I'm constucting this gown and headpiece. I'd love for you to visit
Ferd's Senate Dress Journal
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