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Jedi-Siri
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Date Posted:
9/18/07 4:21pm
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RE: Leia's Ceremonial gown from ANH
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Thanks for the info on resin, that was very helpful! I'm thinking about making a necklace out of it, but I was wondering how do you make a mold?
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kay_dee
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9/18/07 10:18pm
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To make a mold you use silicon RTV. I get mine from Micromark. This web site has some basic instructions. There are a lot of ways to go about it if you start searching for different instructions.
http://www.micromark.com/html_pages/instructions/82083i/part_mold.html
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fairyprincess
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9/24/07 6:01pm
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To anyone who made their necklace from sculply, how many packets did you use?
And what colour did you make them before covering in silver?
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Jedi-Siri
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9/24/07 7:15pm
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I think I used 3, but I'm not 100% sure. I used gray sculpy.
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fairyprincess
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9/24/07 7:48pm
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Cool! I was planning on using a silver base. Did you have to seal it before you painted of leafed it?
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AmmersVI
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9/24/07 8:16pm
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I used 2 packets silver sculpey primo. Wired together with a spool of jewler's wire and finished off with Elmer's Painters pen (metallic) silver. (I only coated the top and the sides)
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Taeriel
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9/24/07 8:35pm
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fairyprincess: from what I've read here, no one had any luck with painting the sculpy, at least with spray paint, no matter what kind of sealer they used as base or as topcoat. Aparently the paint stays tacky and rubs off on your skin. Some people have had success covering sculpy with silver leafing, either leafing foil or a leafing pen. I don't remember whether they put down a base coat before the leafing, though.
Jedi-Siri: Here's another good site with instructions on mold-making. One of the tips I would offer is that when they say the mold material has a limited shelf life after being opened, they mean it. I opened mine once last spring, then left it sealed all summer. By the time I used it again at the end of summer, it was much more viscous and had drastically shorter pot-life (ie the time it stays liquid before setting). This made it much harder to work with. I'm speculating that the degradation might be caused by oxygen and/or water vapor that gets in the container after you open it, and so I wonder if capping the container with nitrogen before putting on the lid would help prolong the lifetime. (This means blowing nitrogen or some other dry inert gas into the container to replace most of the oxygen, then quickly sealing the cap.) One of these days I'll contact the smooth-on people to ask about that. I think they sell a can of condensed nitrogen for either this or a similar purpose.
I'm still working on my necklace. I took a break after 10 pieces cast in order to learn about the sanding and primer process. So far I've learned a lot about wet sanding, filling in any imperfections (ie pinholes) with filler, and some about primer layers. Getting better primer layers is my current goal! On the topic of filler... a friend of mine recommended green stuff putty epoxy by kneadatite. You can find it for reasonable prices on eBay, and so far it's working well for me.
My next major decision on the necklace is whether to carve out the piece on the back of the U-shape at the top or not. In order to do the mold and casting, I had to leave that back piece that folds over as one straight line, all one height, rather than the two pieces going down at the jump ring holes and then a shorter section between. I could cut out the middle part from each of the resin pieces, but I confess I'm tempted to leave it straight instead. For one thing, I'm always worried about messing up and ruining a piece, and for another, well, the back isn't seen at all... 
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kay_dee
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9/25/07 2:10am
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Alison - I remember there is some kind of gas that is supposed to be used as a 'blanket' if you intend to store the resin solutions for a long time. It's to help keep water out (that's what we were told ruined the solution). I have notes about it some place, but I'm too tired to look it up right now. I may have even seen the stuff at TAP plastics.
I almost agree you might be safer leaving your back portion of the necklace fold solid. For starters, it will lend more stability. Reducing them to prongs could leave them vulnerable to breaking off (this is resin, not silver like the real necklace). It should still look fine from the front, and it's one less thing to worry about messing up, like you said.
Good luck! I can't wait to see your work of art!
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Taeriel
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9/25/07 10:25pm
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Yikes, I hadn't even thought about the strength issue, but you're totally right! The thinner tab pieces would be much more vulnerable to breaking. Thanks for pointing that out! That settles it for me - I'll leave it as one straight piece across the back of the u-shape.
Water: ah-ha. I figured it had to be either water or oxygen. For situations like this where a chemical reaction must be taking place, it's usually either water, oxygen or heat. Well, or light, but I figured that and heat weren't the problem.
I spent a while tonight sticking green stuff putting into little imperfections on several of the pieces. It'll harden overnight, and then tomorrow night I'll be sanding everything again. Hopefully several pieces will be ready for final primer after that. 
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fairyprincess
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9/29/07 7:05am
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Well I just finished my hairpiece! I used a pre-styled bun as a base and then used some synthetic hair to create the plaited bun and sewed the plaits to the pre-styled bun. For the tail part of the hairstyle i used a ponytale attachement which had a little bit of a curl. I plaited this and added it under the bun. It has some fly aways but i am not too worried about that! Perfection is a curse!
I am now going to drft my sleeve 'wings' and will hopefully have my draft done by tomorrow afternoon sew I can start sewing it.
I just bought some pleather for the belt. I wanted to get some leather but the party plans have to come first. I will redo the belt once i am finished and the party is over!
After that i will finish my necklace and then .... hopefully i will have it complete for my party!!!!
....I think the force will kick my butt if I don't get it finished:)
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fairyprincess
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10/5/07 5:59pm
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Why hasn't anyone said how much one feels like an angel when wearing this?
I finished it and have just tried it on and i am unbelievibly happy with it! I am just waiting on the on the belt pieces from a friend to drill holes in the centres (apparantly boys do not read minds!) and then my belt will be done!
I am just waiting for the sealer to dry on my neaklace before I add the leafing! I am so happy I could cry!
Well I have to wash it now so will be dry for tonight! My motor skills were very poor last night as i was sewing. You would think the whole glass to mouth move would be aced by now! Pepsi had better come out when i wash it!
I will post pics with Ceremonial Luke at the party tonight....I had better start cooking!
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lavagrrrl
Title: CR, Website Admin, & Rebel Legion Liaison, Detroit
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10/7/07 11:29am
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lavagrrrl posted:
Good luck! The dress can be a pain to make at times, but it is so fun to wear! I always felt the most princess-y while in this costume.
Good luck getting the Pepsi out. I was able to get blood out of my dress after my leg gave out at a parade (multiple times) and I managed to scrap up my knee. 
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Neimhaille
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Date Posted:
10/8/07 12:17am
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It's not so much that the paint never dries with spray paint it's the the polymer clay gets broken down by the propellant, with a tacky surface the paint never really has a chance to dry. The paint itself would be fine if it was a brush on as it is acrylic based. Enamel paints are just as bad if they use a petroleum based solvent.
Here's a page with a lot of info even if it is a bit jumbled:
http://glassattic.com/polymer/paints.htm
I've bought some mica based powder (Pearlex) and it really gives a very good reflective surface. I haven't tried the silver but I suspect experimenting with brushing some into a mold, pushing the clay in and curing the lot in an oven might be one way to get a good metallic finish. Also there may be ways to paint with an acrylic silver and dust with the Pearlex/other mica based powder as it will adhere to wet paint.
http://www.polymerclaycentral.com/faux_abalone.html
You can also blend the powder with the clay which would help disguise a chip in the paint should one occur.
I just wish I had access to all this when I was sculpting polymer dolls in the 90s
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fairyprincess
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Date Posted:
10/9/07 5:12am
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I made my necklace from two packets of silver sculply. I sealed it with the sculply gloss sealer and then covered it with leather spray paint. It has not rubbed off and is not tacky. I will let you know in two weeks if it has changed at all!
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Taeriel
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2/17 9:56pm
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Here are some photos of my necklace. At the end of it all, I was fairly happy with the resin-cast approach. At one point I debated attempting cold metal casting (mixing metallic powder into the outer layers of the resin for coloring), but decided to go with plain resin and silver spray paint for this version. Thanks to everyone for the advice and encouragement last fall!
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