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GrandAdmiralJello 
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Date Posted: 7/25/07 6:14pm Subject: The EU Senate - Now Discussing 'Order 66' Discussion thread - Date Edited: 10/1 7:16am (35 edits total) Edited By: s65horsey
    Welcome to the new home of the Expanded Universe Senate (EUS)! This is where all the senators from member threads of the EUS meet to discuss issues involving the community. You can find a list of all the threads that currently belong to the EUS below. Our goal, simply put, is to use the input of the people of the EUS to make it a better place. We have initiated things like the Trivia Contest, EUC Awards, and the EUCNN to bring the community together. To this end, we always need help! Posting in this thread is not limited to senators. If you have an opinion on a topic we are discussing, or a topic you think we ought to discuss, bring it up! If you’d rather not post, feel free to PM any senator or member of the EUS administration. The more input we get, the more things we can do for the forum. Thanks for stopping by, and may the Force be with you!


    More information about the EUS can be found here


The previous Senate thread can be found at: The EU Senate: Banned in Twelve Systems!.

 

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Date Posted: 7/25/07 6:15pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved - Date Edited: 9/30 6:12pm (10 edits total) Edited By: s65horsey
The EU Senate Constitution

I. AUTHORITY
1. The Chancellor
a. Casts two votes or has the option of "No Opinion."
b. May call Senate Discussions.
c. Chief ambassador to all elements within the JC.
d. Cannot also serve as senator of a thread. He/she must appoint a new senator to represent his/her thread while serving as Chancellor.
e. Any Senator may call for a vote of "No Confidence" in the Chancellor. If three Senators second the movement, the Chancellor or any Senator will have the option of addressing the Senate, then it will go to a Senators-only vote. If 3/4 of the votes cast are in favor of removing the Chancellor, the Vice Chancellor will take his/her place until a new Chancellor can be elected. When a new Chancellor is elected, he/she may choose to appoint new Aides and Ministers.
f. The Chancellor's term shall last ninety days from the day the vote ends and a winner is announced. He/she may serve no more than three consecutive terms. No more than a week before the Chancellor's term is up, new candidates will be elected and a new vote taken. If a new Chancellor is elected, he/she must be ready to take the position the day the former Chancellor hands over the office.

2. The Vice Chancellor
a. Casts one vote.
b. Cannot also serve as senator of a thread. He/she must appoint a new senator to represent his/her thread while serving as Vice Chancellor
c. In the event of the Chancellor's absence, serves as Acting Chancellor, and may choose a Minister to be Acting Vice Chancellor
b. In the event of the Chancellor's absence, serves as Acting Chancellor.

3. The Ministry
a. There will be:
  • Minister of Public Affairs:
    The Minister of Public Affairs' duties include the organisation and promotion of EU Senate projects and games in the EU Community forum, the co-ordination of external volunteers within the Senate, the arbitration of any disputes between EUS member threads, and the introduction of new threads and Senators into the EU Senate. The Minister of Public Affairs is expected to send new Senators introductory PMs that briefly outline their obligations and roles within the EU Senate, and is expected to assist threads that wish to join the EU Senate in any way possible.
  • Minister of Intelligence:
    The Minister of Intelligence's duties include the supervision and observation of all EU Senate representatives and member threads, specifically focusing on thread activity and Senator contributions to the Senate and their thread. The Minister is required to keep a log that briefly summarises thread and Senator activity, and they are to present their observations in a weekly report to the Chancellor and/or current chair of Senate Discussion. The Minister of Intelligence is expected to make judicious use of Ministerial Aides to assist them in completing their duties, and the application of these aides is left up to each individual Minister to manage.
  • Minister of Internal Affairs:
    The Minister of Internal Affairs' duties include the moderation of the EU Senate thread, the mediation of any internal disputes between EU Senate members, the regulation and enumeration of all EU Senate votes, and the operation of the EU Senate PM notification system. The Minister of Internal Affairs is expected to inform all Senators, through the EUS_Update sock, of current EU Senate issues, discussion surrounding the topics of upcoming votes, and all other information that the Chancellor or chair of Senate Discussion deems important.

b. All Ministers are equal.
c. Ministers are equal to all Senators.
d. Ministers may hold any other position within in the EUS, with the exception of the Chancellor.
e. Ministers are appointed by the Chancellor.
f. Ministers may choose up to three aides to assist them in their duties and to cover for them when they are absent.

4. Senators
a. Senators are chosen by the founder or recognized leader, or elected by members/regulars, of their thread.
b. Each is allowed two Aides of their choosing. Must have at least one Aide.
c. Senators cast one vote, representing the feelings and needs of their thread, in the Senate.
d. Can not be a spammer, a flamer, a basher, a troll, or a sock.
e. Must have been a registered and active user (i.e. you are a fairly regular poster and have accumulated many on-topic posts) on the Jedi Council forums for at least 3 months. You also should not have received a ban for any amount of time for flaming, spamming, bashing, or trolling, although in special instances, this may be voided.
f. Should participate regularly in the thread they wish to represent and in the EU Community forum in general. This does not include posts that are off-topic, irrelevant, unwanted, or debilitating to the thread in which they are posted and refers to serious on-topic posts replying to a given subject.
g. Should be prepared to contribute to EU Senate discussions, operations, and events, and understand the responsibilities they will hold as a Senator.

5. Senatorial Aides
a. Must be members/regulars of the thread their Senator represents.
b. If a Senator has two Aides, one will be the Primary Aide who will assume his/her position when absent. In this case, the Primary Aide will be superior to the Secondary Aide. In all other instances, both Aides are equal.
c. Aides are allowed to vote in changes of defense and the constitution when filling in for their Senator.
d.Cannot be Senators in addition to being a Primary Aide. Senatorial Primary Aides may also be Ministers, however.
e. Can not be a spammer, a flamer, a basher, a troll, or a sock and should not have received a ban for any of these offenses, although in special instances, this may be voided.
f. Must have been a registered and active user (i.e. you are a fairly regular poster and have accumulated many on-topic posts) on the Jedi Council forums for at least 3 months.
g. Should participate regularly in the thread they wish to represent and in the EU Community forum in general. This does not include posts that are off-topic, irrelevant, unwanted, or debilitating to the thread in which they are posted and refers to serious on-topic posts replying to a given subject.
h. Should be prepared to contribute to EU Senate discussions, operations, and events, and understand the responsibilities they will hold as a Senatorial Aide.
i. When Aides are not directly serving in place of their Senator, their primary duty is to assist their Senator in any way deemed appropriate.

6. Ministerial Aides
a. Ministerial Aides are chosen by the Ministers. They can be any EU regulars and do not have to be directly affiliated with an EU thread/club.
b. They can assume individual responsibilities and titles, such as Ambassador to [insert thread name].
c. A Minister chooses a Chief Aide who will assume his/her duties when absent.

7. Chancellor's Aides
a. Advises the Chancellor, helps him/her with various work, and occasionally speaks on his/her behalf in unofficial settings.
b. Chancellor's Aides do not assume the Chancellor's position when he/she is away.
c. Chancellor's Aides can be any EU regulars.
8. Senator and Aide Activity

a. Senator and Aide activity in the EU Senate thread shall be monitored by the Minister of Intelligence, who will incorporate their findings into their weekly Intelligence report.

b. Senator inactivity shall be monitored using a strike system, where the accumulation of three strikes by a Senator allows for dismissal of the aforementioned Senator.

c. Strikes shall be given to a Senator after a period of inactivity (defined in Section 8f), and further strikes will be assigned as per Section 8i.

d. The assigning and long-term recording of strikes against Senators and the date/details of each particular strike shall occur in private. The disbursement of strikes and the dismissal of Senators shall be carried out by the Minister of Intelligence, Chancellor, and Vice-Chancellor.

e. A strike handed to a Senator will remain "active" for six months. After six months, the strike shall no longer count towards a Senator's three-strike dismissal total. Strikes should, however, remain in each Senator's record permanently.

f. Definitions of Inactivity:
  • Three weeks (21 days) of no participation within the EU Senate thread. Earns one strike.
  • One missed EU Senate vote. Earns two strikes.
g. When a Senator has been inactive as defined under Section 8f, they shall be assigned one or more strikes as per Section 8f by the Minister of Intelligence, Chancellor, or Vice-Chancellor. The Senator in question and the other parties in charge of dispensing strikes shall be sent Private Messages indicating the strike/s.

h. If the Senator responds immediately to the warning PM and resumes constructive activity in the EU Senate thread, no further action shall be taken. That Senator will retain all strikes already handed to them.

i. If the Senator in question has not responded to the warning PM and resumed constructive activity in the EU Senate thread after a period of one week, they shall be assigned one additional strike and be sent a second warning PM. This process shall continue until the Senator has accumulated three strikes.

j. When a Senator is assigned their third strike the Chancellor shall send the Senator a Private Message advising them that they shall be temporarily dismissed from their position in the EUS until explanation has been given for their inactivity.

k. An Aide of a dismissed Senator is to be contacted by the Minister of Intelligence advising them that they are to take their Senator's place in the EU Senate, unless the thread would prefer to select a new Senator themselves.

l. Action to be taken against a Senator:
  • If a Senator has been inactive due to real life circumstances (including, but not limited to, a death in the family, illness, or school), the Chancellor may, at their discretion, dissolve strikes given to the Senator during that time period, and the Senator will be free to resume their EU Senate post when possible.
  • If a Senator has been inactive without a real life excuse, they shall be dismissed from their post. If the dismissed Senator chooses to appeal such dismissal, a vote within the EU Senate thread will be taken, where a 2/3 majority will be required for an allowance to remain within the Senate. If the 2/3 majority is not reached, the Senator's dismissal shall stand.
m. A once-dismissed Senator will be allowed to take a Senatorial post again if they have the willingness and capacity to return to such a post. They will retain one of their previous strikes for the first time they return from dismissal, two strikes for the second return, and after their third dismissal for inactivity, they will not be allowed to return to a position in the EU Senate.

II. SENATE DISCUSSIONS
  1. The Senate shall be in a permanent state of discussion regarding policy, issues, etc. relating to the EUC forum. This discussion is open to any user, not merely those involved with the Senate in an official capacity.

  2. The Chancellor or a simple majority vote may close discussion on a single topic when they feel the time is right and there is no more need for discussion. At such time, the issue will either be brought to vote or be dropped.

  3. Discussions will be chaired by the Chancellor. In the Chancellor's absence, the Vice Chancellor will chair the discussion.

  4. All participants will be expected to behave in a dignified and respectful manner and obey the ToS/RoC at all times. If there are problems concerning this, the chair and the Minister of Internal Affairs will attempt to mediate any conflict or deal with any offenders, if necessary by going to the moderators. In case of a continuing problem, a 2/3 majority may expel any participant from the thread for a period of time determined after the vote.

III. VOTING
  1. The Chancellor has two votes, each Senator has one. Ministers and Aides have no votes unless they are serving in their superior's absence.

  2. Senators and the Chancellor may also choose not to cast a vote and say "No Opinion."

  3. The Chancellor or any three Senators may call for a subject to be voted on.

  4. Anyone may request the Chancellor call for a vote.

  5. The Chancellor is voted into office by a majority vote. Anyone can be nominated, by themselves or someone else.

  6. The current Chancellor can not vote in the election and must use his first vote as a tie-breaker only, unless he is running him/herself and therefore the vote is not used as a tie-breaker. The tie breaking duty will then go to the EUC moderators.

  7. Any Senator can call for a vote to change the Constitution. Three Senators must second the movement before it can go to a vote.

  8. 3/4 of the votes cast must agree for the Constitution to be changed.

  9. If ever there is a tie (except in an election), the Senate will discuss the matter further and vote again or come up with an alternative solution.

  10. All voting periods will last for a minimum of 48 hours. The Chancellor has the power to add any extra time he or she deems appropriate to any voting period.

IV. DEFENSE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
  1. Flaming, trolling, and spamming are all considered provocation. The official definitions of the JC will be used. Any other complaints will be voted on by the Senate as to whether they should be considered transgressions.

  2. If a member or non-member thread provokes a member thread or an individual is provoking a thread or another individual, complaints can be made to the appropriate Senator, who will then involve the Chancellor and Vice Chancellor to attempt to help resolve the matter. If they are unable to reach a compromise, the Senate will discuss the situation and vote on further action.

V. EXTERNAL RELATIONS
  1. Every official of the Senate will represent the EUS to the best of their ability.

  2. The Chancellor, the Vice Chancellor, the Minister of Public Affairs and their Aides will be the only officials with the power to officially represent the EUS to the JC Administration, Mods and Managers and non-member threads.

VI. INTERNAL RELATIONS
  1. If Senate officials cannot get along, the Chancellor and the Minister of Internal Affairs will attempt to help them resolve their problems. If they are unable to do so, then the Chancellor may call on the Senate to vote for the removal of the troublesome party or parties. A 2/3 majority of the votes cast is needed to remove a Senator. Aides and Ministers can be dismissed by the Chancellor alone.

  2. All member threads and EUS officials are expected to refrain from provoking one another.

  3. Threads are eligible to join the EUS once they reach at least 250 posts, but not before.

  4. A thread is no longer eligible for membership if it remains inactive for more than 14 days.



EU Senate Membership

EU Senate Membership

Leadership:
Chancellor: The_Loyal_Imperial
Vice Chancellor: Lord_Vivec


Ministry:
Minister of Internal Affairs:
Minister of Intelligence:
Minister of Public Affairs:


Senate Threads - Senators:

  1. The EU Imperial Court: The Palace on Gelatine Hill
    Senator: TBA


  2. The EUC New User Social Thread
    Senator: TBA


  3. The Acolytes of Revan
    Senator: Deciple_of_Malak


  4. The Jag Fel Fan Club
    Senator: THE_PIED_PIPER


  5. The Mara Jade Skywalker Fan Club
    Senator: JediMaraJadeSkyMaul


  6. The Church of Waru
    Senator: SWBob


  7. The Tenel Ka Fan Club
    Senator: RK_Striker_JK_5


  8. The Wes Janson Fan Club
    Senator: TBA


  9. The New Jedi Order/Legacy of the Force Fan Club
    Senator: Warrior_Goddess


  10. The Imperial Lounge
    Senator: Darth_Gangrenous


  11. The Jacen Solo Fan Club
    Senator: Darth_Sabith


  12. Thrawn Fans Unite!
    Senator: Thrawn1786


  13. Twin Suns
    Senator: Sabre_11


  14. Sturm's Outlander Club
    Senator: TypoCelchu


  15. The Young Jedi Knights Fan Club
    Senator: TBA


  16. The Tahiri Veila Fan Club
    Senator: TBA


  17. The X-wing Series Fan Club
    Senator: PRINCESSCAMBRIA
    Aide: Rosa-Belle


  18. The Blue Moon Cantina
    Senator: TBA


  19. The Templars of Twilight: The Official Grey Jedi Fanclub of the EUC
    Senator: MarcusDade


  20. The Dominion of Darkness
    Senator: DarthFx3


  21. Lady Lumiya's Disciples
    Senator: TBA


  22. Kyp Durron Fan Club
    Senator: Lola64
    Aide: Ceillean


  23. Imperial Knights Fan Club
    Senator: Sinrebirth


  24. Callista Fans!
    Senator: jedi2187leia
    Aide: Ambassador Cara Jade


  25. The Chiss fan club
    Senator: Mitth_Fisto


  26. Old Jedi Order Fan Club
    Senator: Darth_Chewy-bacca


  27. Yuuzhan'tar the Yuuzhan Vong Homeworld
    Senator: jhc26


  28. The Society of the Whills
    Senator: prj1


  29. EUC Droid Fan Club
    Senator: Mister_Master
    Aide: TrulyGhent


  30. The Star Wars Community
    Ambassador: Darth_Brutus666


Note: If any of the above information is incorrect of out of date, please send a PM to the Chancellor.

 

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TypoCelchu 
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Date Posted: 7/25/07 6:15pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved - Date Edited: 7/25/07 6:16pm (1 edits total) Edited By: TypoCelchu
Wow. This seems like a bare-bones and scaled down model. Where am I supposed to sit without any furniture? tongue

Edit: Ahhhh, that sure makes me look dumb.

Also, I really think we need to start an archive of past Chancellorships, and when they started-ended, etc.

 

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s65horsey 
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Registered: Jun '06
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Date Posted: 7/25/07 6:16pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved
To continue the discussion, it was also thought that a new thread would be more welcoming for people. Thanks Jello!!!!

 

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GrandAdmiralJello 
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Date Posted: 7/25/07 6:17pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved
Coincidentally, the same discussion at the very beginning of the last thread was how to make the Senate more welcoming to people. A new thread will help accomplish this, and it's probably a great first discussion for the new thread too. It'll help keep the idea of being welcoming fresh in everyone's mind. happy

 

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Date Posted: 7/25/07 6:23pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved - Date Edited: 7/25/07 6:24pm (1 edits total) Edited By: lexu
Yay new thread. Okay, now I'm going to jump right into the current topic.

I'm psyched that we're finally talking about this. Pelly brings up excellent points, I'm glad she posted. I have a lot to say on this issue, but I'm going to read through what's already been said more carefully.

I want to stress to my fellow Senators not to be offended or put on the defensive. Take it all in. Think of this as the kind of existential debate which will lead to a better Senate.

 

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Date Posted: 7/25/07 6:36pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved - Date Edited: 7/25/07 6:37pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Imperial_Hammer
Very interesting postings to be sure...

Here are my points, short, sweet, and purposefully simple so as to stimulate discussion versus embroiling me in a debate that I have no time to participate in...

I approve of Senate created updates to be copy/pasted in threads

I am skeptical that cliquish perceptions can be demolished. Mindset changes are hard to accomplish.

I am wary of giving Senators more work to do, BUT do not think that the copy/pasting or sticky ideas are that much work

I am skeptical that proper representation can ever take place outside of an oversight body

I approve of Senators keeping their threads more informed

I am skeptical that the Senate can do much outside of games and constitutional revisions

I would enjoy exploring what the Senate could do outside of games and constitutional revisions

happy

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Date Posted: 7/25/07 6:38pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved
Oh, wait. There's actually stuff I should have been reading? What sort of body is this? tongue

I'll certainly voice my opinion after reading through the last few pages. While I was for keeping the old thread in the interest of preserving history, I hope that this new thread will bring fresh interest into the Senate. wink

 

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Date Posted: 7/25/07 6:42pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved
*wanders in with a fruit basket*




Err... just a little something from the neighbourhood
peace





*runs away*

 

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Date Posted: 7/25/07 6:44pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved
Thank you, Nemuro. No need to run away though. You're welcome here.

 

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Date Posted: 7/25/07 6:48pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved
Thanks for the fruit basket, Numero. happy

*Settles into office*

 

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Date Posted: 7/25/07 7:03pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved - Date Edited: 7/25/07 7:07pm (1 edits total) Edited By: lexu
IH: OMG you wrote a SHORT post? shock What have you done with the real IH? plain tongue

Anyway, I agree with the sentiment and content of your post completely. I'll draw what I see up in more a more detailed form...


Pelly and Cobra are far from being alone in their criticisms, let's just put that out there first. I'll speak on behalf of my thread, the WJFC, where I don't think many of them care about or hold a high opinion of the Senate anymore (and most of them are people who have been very involved in the past). I think this is true for many other threads, as well. I, too, and most of my friends (WJFC or not), share a similar opinion. Many months ago I considered pulling the WJFC out of the Senate because it seemed to us that the whole thing was nonsense and wasn't representing anything for us. So don't dismiss these criticisms, because they're more prevalent than you might think.

So I'm going to lay them out the way I see them, whether they're entirely accurate or not.

1) Too many games. Not that many people care about games.

2) Clique-ish-ness. People in the Senate mostly fall within one group of buddies.

3) Disconnect with the community. Those active in the Senate are basically, whether knowingly or unknowingly, catering to themselves as a group more than they are their threads or the EUC as a whole.


Clearly, all of these criticisms interrelate.

4) The Senate isn't open enough for addressing more practical issues. Where are the boundaries for what problems get attention where and from whom? (A complicated question for a complicated issue.)

5) The Senate is no longer useful.


There's reason to be concerned, to varying degrees, with all of these issues.

To tackle the first three is difficult. There is a core group of people here that put a lot of themselves into the Senate and that isn't a bad thing, but there are consequences. Most significantly, they can seem unapproachable to "outsiders" and their policies and where they put their attention will certainly reflect their personal values and desires.

Now naturally, that's what we consider when electing Chancellors or choosing our Senator, right? Well, in theory, but not entirely in practice. This supposes we have a pretty good system of representation. And we do NOT. tongue We can't or else this place would be bogged down in the kind of practical measures that would make it possible. (We've tried to tackle this before and the Senate simply doesn't work as anything more than a casual body.)

So yes, this is an issue. What the Senate needs to discuss is how they want to address it.

As for the other issues (4 and 5 on my little list), I suggest we tackle this first and then move onto the broader questions.

So some more specific questions to discuss: These relate to things like the games and whether or not the Senate is doing things the EUC at large wants to do... When Senators poll threads for opinions, whether it be for the recent RPG or for electing a Chancellor, who replies? Why do they reply? I've noticed two things specifically here: 1) A lot of people are members of multiple threads, so of course their opinion gets counted many times over. It's another flaw in this whole representation thing. How do we adress that? And 2) Most people who reply are much closer to the "I don't really give a crap" end of the spectrum than the enthusiastic one. tongue Why aren't they excited?

To get some feedback, this is an excellent time for Senators to ask their threads how they really feel about the Senate and what they think the Senate does for them, their thread and the EUC.

So a lot is out on the table right now, but let's try to narrow it down a bit and whoever posts next, I suppose, can decide what we're focusing on. tongue

Edit: I feel like I lost my focus a bit there, but I'm too lazy to fix it, just make of it what you will. tongue

 

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Date Posted: 7/25/07 7:53pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved
I’ll eventually get to all the points, lexu because I think they are important and I agree with some of them, but this appears to be a tl.dr. post already so I'll stop with point 1. Apologies for that, but I am trying to address this misconception about the Senate and show there is a community reason that we started discussing games in the first place.

Point #1: Games

I’m going to look at what has been happening in the Senate in the last 6 months.

During the three months of Jello’s term there were no games. There was a social thread that was opened called Spring Fling. This was Senate Sponsored, but I was the one who came up with the idea and got it approved by the mods before even asking the Senate to help man the ‘games’. This could be considered a game. It lasted a week, and was done. Just supposed to be a fun thing.

During the end of Jello’s term and the beginning of Sinre’s term the question was asked of the community as to what they’d like to see more of. “Games” was the resounding answer that the Senate received. So to say not that many people care about games is contradictory to what we were told by the community over three months ago. Both candidates ran on a platform stating they’d create a game or two.

The EUC Weakest Link was created. Sinre started it off, then handed the reins over to TheLighterSide (not a Senate member), who ran the focus group with the mods, myself, Sinre, and Prenn. We tried out the game during the last several weeks. Most people found it amusing and stated so in the thread. Non-senators played as well as some Senators. We’re in the process of fixing some errors, but Mr44 has asked it to be run again.

The EUCFanFic isn’t a game. No one is playing it, just reading it. Sinre is working on including all the different FC’s from the EUC in it and trying to make it enjoyable for everyone. The original idea asked for many different people to contribute to it, this didn’t happen. Sinre started it off and then asked the Senators to ask their threads if they’d like to write up a FanFic of their own for their thread. The WJFC already has one of these, so it was thought that others might like to do this as well. Some of the FC’s thought it was a good idea, others didn’t.

The EUC RPG, this is still in the discussion stages. It is a hope of the Senate to provide many different things for people to do. If you don’t like the Weakest Link game, perhaps you’d like the RPG. Or if you don’t like that, then something else. We know that games aren’t everyone’s cup of tea. This is why we keep coming up with other ideas.

A risk type game was discussed and shot down as it was pointed out that the last one didn’t work. There was a match game that was started off in test form until the person who came up with it had to leave the net for a little bit. Mr44 asked the Senate to come up with a game to run opposite the Weakest Link (Like they do in the Arena forum) so that’s what the Senate has been trying to do.

I don’t feel as if the Senate is only about games. There is 1 actual game that has come from the Senate.

SWF444’s Caption game is her own game. That is not part of the Senate. The SFD has been around for ages. EUC word association game has been around for awhile, as well as the EUC ABC game. As Typo has said, but I’ll reiterate, the EUCNN is his and not in any way part of the Senate.

 

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Mr44 
Registered: May '02
Date Posted: 7/25/07 7:54pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved
Well, Jello jumped the gun a little here, but since he's new to the position, I guess we'll have to overlook it for now. There was a locking party planned for the old thread, but I guess we'll just get right down to business....

Did anyone catch who had the 10,000th post?

 

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s65horsey 
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Registered: Jun '06
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Date Posted: 7/25/07 7:57pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved
Pelly did.

 

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GrandAdmiralJello 
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Registered: Nov '00
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Date Posted: 7/25/07 8:05pm Subject: RE: The EU Senate: New and Improved
Considering the importance of the discussion at the moment, I'd be concerned over a party turning into a barfight or a riot. wink

 

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