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Nobody145 Registered: Feb '07	Date Posted: 4/10 4:54am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Oh yeah, forgot about Mon Mothma's poisoning. Oh well, there goes my theory (partly). Oh well, I just chalk it all up to the authors eventually explaining and filling in everything. We had no idea that Roan Fel had a cousin (even if the cousin is long dead) until they mentioned him. Although I still wonder if Luke's Force ghost needs explaining for that matter, as while Luke is extremely powerful, someone who Cadem might've actually met while they were still alive might've had a bigger impact. -----signature----- Don't mind me, I'm nobody important.
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Rouge77 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 4/10 7:36am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 4/10 7:37am (1 edits total) Edited By: Rouge77
	Nobody145 posted: Although I still wonder if Luke's Force ghost needs explaining for that matter, as while Luke is extremely powerful, someone who Cadem might've actually met while they were still alive might've had a bigger impact. I think so too, but Luke's basically there because he has much bigger impact on us, the readers, and he is instantly recognizable to anyone who knows even a little of SW. For example, Ben has been established as a character only during the time that Legacy has itself been published, and his only comic appearance was in the non-canon Tales story. He wouldn't work in this role anywhere near as well, even if he might have in IU lived long enough for Cade to have known him personally. -----signature----- Recipient of the Confederation Ewok with "Rebel Yub"® Action!!
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RK_Striker_JK_5 Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 4/10 3:53pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Rouge77: I think there is little doubt that all those characters are intended to be dead in Legacy and that none of them will appear in the comic. And that sucks like Unicron. I know it and still loathe it. I want Tenel Ka! I want Lowie! I don't want that fossil Whiphid and his dumb hat! That of course doesn't has to mean that we get confirmation of their deaths in Legacy - I doubt that we will - but it seems to be that there's not much reason to hope that they appear alive in it. Hope is all I have left, and I don't have much of it. I don't think they will retreat from that position in Legacy, except by showing that Gunn Yage is Kol's daughter. I don't count the Fels as Skywalkers, if they are descendent from Jaina; too many generations would separate them from Leia. If Jaina became Empress Fel, she doesn't deserve the name Solo or Skywalker anymore. She has forever sullied it. Future novels or comics might show that some of these characters are still alive, basically resurrecting them. That'd be too much. Del Rey's known for almost random killings, after all. I don't like it, but that's how I see it. Personal canon for the win for me. If anyone wants to check it, there's a new longer version available of the Invincible summary we got some time ago. I posted it in the official Legacy of the Force thread. Thanks. Man... I got a bad feeling about this novel. Jedi_Ben: Legacy has had a very narrow focus though and it's a big galaxy. We haven't seen Hapes yet. Retired Queen Mother Tenel Ka, please? Allana still ruling? Anything???? My theory is that Prime and Autobots have to deal with the Dead Universe, but at the cost of abandoning Earth, thus Megatron gets to take over. It's set one year after the upcoming Revelations series. Good theory, there. That's what it sounds like to me, too. Nobody145: The Autobots have already effectively abandoned earth for the short-term now, despite how earth has already shifted from just another backwater entrenchment to one of the pivotal frontlines (as I think Prowl or someone said at the end of Infiltration), with the ultra-energon being there, Megatron being there, and Sunstreaker's disappearance. That always happens to Earth. You think they'd be used to it by now. The Optimus Prime Spotlight probably moved that storyline along more than any of the mini-series have, though I didn't care much for Otpimus' sanctimous attitude at the end. I didn't either. What the slag else was Omega supposed to do with the Pretender Monsters? How long has that idiotic "60 is the new 30" stuff been around anyway? I know since LotF started at least, to justify Han and Boba Fett still being central characters? I don't know either, but you're right. It is pretty dumb. Jedi being vital for a while, I can buy. But Han and Fett? No way. Here's a slight rant. When the hell are they gonna produce EU action figures more than limited edition? I want Tenel Ka, damn it! -----signature----- E-married to the wonderful DarthIshtar. Now also her Padawan. Member of the Y.J.K. Revolution Staring into the Darkness http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/27537567/p1/?23
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Ulicus Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 4/11 9:45am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Jedi Ben posted: 2. Their work on Transformers for the last 2-3 years has been excellent but may reach another level with the All Hail Megatron series, which starts in July and will run for 12 issues, more details here: I just read the preview for that. The extent of my Transformers knowledge only really extends to the G1 Cartoon and the Movie, and I'm not familiar with IDW continuity, but it looks great -----signature----- Recipient of Golden Ewok™ Trip Cares
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 4/11 3:45pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	HAHAHAHA! Mario Kart Wii! It's out, I've a copy and I came, I saw and kicked arse, both online and off! Oh? I'm bragging? And US posters don't have it yet? Oh....I had no idea! Nobody, Yeah, the Angel series is awesome, isn't it? I still wish WB hadn't cancelled Angel in the first place of course (damn WB, they cancel Angel but keep crap like Charmed going for a decade, companies wouldn't know good taste if the executives had their heads chopped off), but the After the Fall series is pretty good. Though the cliffhanger is cruel, but at least they can tongue-in-cheek say they're being cruel. I can't wait for the first TPB to come out someday. * The last issue was indeed excellent and Urru isn't doing the art on future issues so the weak art may change. Did you get the Focus on Decepticons thing? Not sure if it was really worth it, and not sure I care for the timejump (a lot of series seem to be doing that these days), though the preview was funny. * Not yet. It goes: Weds, comics hit US; Thurs, comics hit UK; Sat - I can get to the local shop. The Autobots have already effectively abandoned earth for the short-term now, despite how earth has already shifted from just another backwater entrenchment to one of the pivotal frontlines (as I think Prowl or someone said at the end of Infiltration), with the ultra-energon being there, Megatron being there, and Sunstreaker's disappearance. I liked Hotrod's refusal to leave in the middle of the crisis, though whatever pulled Prime away was probably important too. And I'm still debating whether to buy that Premiere version of most of the earlier stories. * If you really like the earlier material and the Absolute-style presentation, it is quite, quite excellent but ensure you buy it from somewhere like Amazon that'll slash a third of the price off. Although Revelation will actually give some answers. They got rid of the Reapers (thankfully), but there's at least two different organizations on earth with access to Transformer technology, and that's not counting the Decepticons either. And then there's still the looming Dead Universe of course. * Yup, there's plenty going on. Ulicus, I strongly recommend you try it, if you need a recommended reading structure I can supply one. Now back to the main story: MARIO KART WII! If you were thinking the wheel wouldn't work, prepare to be so very wrong, because it's quite wondrous, you'll ponder why no one did it previously as you uncover greater subtleties with more practice. The online is very quick and easy to use, there's just an undefinable gap between human and computer enemies. The latter cheat like hell, the former are more cunning but you also have a greater of vengeance! And that's always satisfying. JB -----signature----- Howe: Why? Castle: So they can't walk away. So they can't profit from the pain they've caused..... Howe: And no second chances... Castle: I don't do redemption.
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ChildOfWinds Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 4/11 9:24pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Trying to catch up a bit. I haven't had too much time to post lately. My mother broke her hip AND her wrist Wednesday evening, so life is even more hectic than usual. It looks like others have tighter schedules too. Havent seen MS86 or Master Starwalker around lately either. Nobody145 . But its probably Cade is the last Skywalker as he doesn't try to shove the job off on anybody else but instead says Sia would be a better choice Yes, that's what I'm afraid of too. I still think it's so disappointing that Cade is Luke's sole descendant. I wouldn't find him quite as hard to take if I knew that Luke had at least one other DECENT descendant. I still don't quite buy into the Gunner as a full-sister theory (half-sister, definitely, but we'll see about that eventually), but its possible, I'm not sure how I feel about that. I'd like Luke to have more descendants, and that would be one way that he could. But I don't know quite enough about her yet to know whether she would be much of an improvement on Cade or not. After all, she's an Imperial. But I agree that it could be worked out that she could be his sister. (too bad we have no idea if Sia has a bond with Cade now too). Well, if Talon and Wolf do, I would THINK that Sia would as well. How long has that idiotic "60 is the new 30" stuff been around anyway? I don't know if before LotF the human lifespan was that long, There are hints that it was. I know that in Truce at Bakura, an elderly couple were over 130 years old. In SQ, Zahn referred to characters in their mid to late 60's as "middle aged". To me, it just makes more sense that people in a galaxy with advanced medical knowledge would have longer lifespans, so it seems pretty logical to me. but its probable that most of the family just died out over time. But shouldn't Luke, Leia, and Han's grandchildren and great-grandchildren still be alive? Hey! In less than 100 years, Ben and Allana should even be alive. I don't mind if the rest of the extended first, second and third generation Skywalker-Solo family is written off as simply fading away quietly in their sleep after long, exhausting lifetimes. Well, they wouldn't have if normal lifespans are 120 and all of them are already dead. Ben would only be less than 114 at the time of Legacy. Anyway, if Ben was still around, then I'd feel annoyed that he wasn't doing more, I would be annoyed too, but right now, I'm annoyed that he's even dead! just like how in LotF with how Luke is still a main, major character in the middle of the story but he still hasn't dealt with the problem yet, which makes him look idiotic/incompetent. I completely agree, Mr. N! This TRULY bothers me! And Kol seemed like a pretty senior Jedi already, with how he was a Jedi Master, headed up the Ossus Project (which would've been a spectacular sucess and done a lot of good for the galaxy if not for sabotage of course), and was senior enough to speak for the Jedi at GA Triumvirate meetings. But Luke did stuff like that at an even earlier age! Rouge77 And the problem with that is that Kol isn't that old, about 39 when he dies, Right! And that's not even old by Earth standards! and the Legacy team insists of him being Ben's grandson, so even if the Skywalkers would have had only one child in every generation, there is still several people whose absence can't be explained by peaceful death in old age (in SW terms). Kol's parents at minimum should have been still alive in 130 ABY, pretty much even if Ben would start a family really quickly. And if they were and died earlier in the war or on Ossus, then why isn't Cade distressed about them? Or about possible uncles, aunts, cousins etc. I agree. I'd really like more of an explanation as to what happened to all of these people. What comes to Mon Mothma, the idea is, I think, that the poisoning in JAT harmed her health permanently. That sounds about right. I think so too, but Luke's basically there because he has much bigger impact on us, the readers, and he is instantly recognizable to anyone who knows even a little of SW. Yes, I think so too. I think Luke was a "draw" for readers. Putting Luke on the cover, sold copies, I'm sure. RK_Striker_JK_5 I know it and still loathe it. I want Tenel Ka! I want Lowie! Lowie for SURE should be alive! He's a Wookiee! I don't want that fossil Whiphid and his dumb hat! I don't either. He may have been used because he was an earlier Dark Horse character. And his hat seems to have been popular! I don't think they will retreat from that position in Legacy, except by showing that Gunn Yage is Kol's daughter. And they might! I don't count the Fels as Skywalkers, if they are descendent from Jaina; too many generations would separate them from Leia. But wouldn't there be just as many from Luke to Cade? Personal canon for the win for me. Thank goodness for personal canons! If anyone wants to check it, there's a new longer version available of the Invincible summary we got some time ago. I posted it in the official Legacy of the Force thread. With permission from RF, I posted most of it in the Lit SOS thread. We can talk about it there. But I have that same bad feeling, Striker! I don't know either, but you're right. It is pretty dumb. Jedi being vital for a while, I can buy. But Han and Fett? No way. I actually like it because it allows the characters I love to be vital and important characters for quite a while longer.
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 4/12 2:53pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Well, my local didn't get Focus on Decepticons but, as it sounds to be a pricey preview, I don't see it as a loss. Unless there was more to it? Angel: After The Fall 6 was a great start to the First Night arc as we saw what happened to Spike, Connor and Lorne; the latter's tale being especially good. This title continues to get better as it continues. Also acquired Iron Man 15-18, 21-27 and have been quite impressed with where the Knaufs have taken their story, it makes for an excellent read but also meshes very well with the Cap and Thunderbolts titles too. As to how it'll end? Iron Man 28 is due next week! -----signature----- Howe: Why? Castle: So they can't walk away. So they can't profit from the pain they've caused..... Howe: And no second chances... Castle: I don't do redemption.
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 4/13 3:05pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	FYI, I just finished watching Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles which is noteworthy to Star Wars fans as having the Darth Vader-esque being voiced by Mark Hamill. I thought I'd share my thoughts on this particular Space Opera series. Robotech is a mid-1980s hybridization series that was created by re-dubbing 3 unrelated Japanese series (a common enough practice in those times) with different dialogue and script editing to produce one gigantic saga across two generations of fictional storytelling. What's largely different about Robotech from other such offerings is that the final result was actually good and in the case of the later two series, a marked improvement over the originals. The series actually became so beloved by certain science fiction fans that two authors that you may have heard of (James Luceno and Brian Daley) wrote a 17 book saga detailing an Expanded Universe as consistent as the one that the Star Wars saga itself was based upon. Unfortunately, it was a franchise that rather died out given Robotech didn't have QUITE the staying power that Star Wars itself. It's still a little engine that could, however, thanks to the DVD re-release of the original series. After 20 years, a sequel movie was produced to the original cliff-hanger ending of the series. Unfortunately, it proved controversial as it retconned elements of the novels that had been established as the present Expanded Universe by James Luceno. Ultimately, it's a good film and I'm very proud of having witnessed it. But what does this have to do with Star Wars? Well its an interesting example of fans becoming the creators of the series. The Robotech: Shadow Chronicles movie was created by people who'd grown up watching the original animated series on television and wanting to create their own variant on it. Likewise, there's going to be a Warner Brothers produced Robotech movie starring/produced by Toby Maguire (of Spiderman fan) because apparently he's just THAT much of a Robotech fan. Certainly, the runaway CGI success of Transformers shows that giant robot movies can suceed. It occurs to me that we may be starting to see more of this as well with the Clone Wars series coming up and Live Action series. George Lucas has long employed fans of his movies almost exclusively in Lucasarts (admittedly-finding video game geeks who AREN'T fans of Star Wars might take some work) but this has actually started spreading to authors as well. Troy Denning being one of the most notable examples of a obsessive Star Wars fan and roleplaying game "geek" becoming a later author of it. -----signature----- Check out Halt Evil Doer!: The RPG setting for Super Heroes! Halt Evil Doer PDF: http://tinyurl.com/555axt
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Nobody145 Registered: Feb '07	Date Posted: 4/13 5:25pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Ah yes, funny enough, the Robotech novels were pretty good. I've gone out of my way to get as many as possible, but most of them are very long out of print, though they re-released the omnibuses relatively recently, I think. Funny how Robotech was them splicing together three entirely different series. Though these days I prefer Macross (the anime that was the basis for the Macross Saga of Robotech, and a major Japanese franchise in its own right, though not as big as others like Gundam) to Robotech, but I'm still fond of Robotech. The Robotech Sentinel novels were pretty good too, since they showed the further adventures of the first generation's crew. Which kind of completely clashes with Shadow Chronicles, but I don't mind too much. I've got to get that Special Edition sometime. I'd buy the Robotech DVDs, but they might be hard to find already too (so many DVDs come and go so quickly). And huh, never knew Toby Maguire was that big of a Robotech fan. You've got to love franchises where the fans are so loyal they themselves eventually take over, er, take part in that franchise. Though it might be another few decades before the fans take over the EU. Too bad in other cases its not quite enough, like with series like Angel and Firefly where it is still quite a popular series with fans, but the networks are too moronic to support. Not to mention how there have been aborted attempts to answer the Robotech TV series' cliffhanger ending for literally decades, before Shadow Chronicles came out. But... you never know what can happen. Troy Denning is that big of a fan of Star Wars? Well, that's good to know. I just wish they wouldn't let anti-Jedi authors write Jedi novels. The end result isn't all that good. JB, the Decepticon thing isn't really important, just has some very minor bios, an interview with some writers, and a preview of the Megatron series coming up (not the horrible Origin one, but another). And at least the Angel series is coming out on time though, it just takes a few months. Oh well, at least I hope we'll get to see some of Whedon's idea on where the Wesley/Illyria/Fred thing could've gone. I think I read somewhere in interviews that if there had been a sixth season, the Wesley and Illryia/Fred thing would've gotten a lot more convoluted/darker. Hm, I'll think about that Transformer thing. But what do you mean by Absolute-style? Is that what they call these big collections/omnibuses? Though I haven't bothered to pick up most of the earlier TPBs. I've got to add up the costs of all the earlier individual TPBs (Stormbringer, Infiltration, Spotlight, Escalation) and see if its a better deal. Though I like the idea of a hardcover edition. But after... three, four years, I wish they would provide a few more answers. Dreamwave as a company itself sucks, not to mention their ridiculous numbers of plotlines, but aside from scandal-filled implosion, what I'm more annoyed about is that they never gave any answers. IDW seems far more stable, but... things are still spinning out of control on a whole lot of fronts. -----signature----- Don't mind me, I'm nobody important.
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MasterSkywalker86 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 4/13 7:41pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 4/13 7:45pm (1 edits total) Edited By: MasterSkywalker86
	The last of the Midterms have been vanquished you can finally post in peace....but a more sinister force is rising...blasted finals. I noticed there is a summary for Invincible I decide to read it myself.....and for some reason it feels like it's going to be a poor's man TUF. don't get me wrong but I would love nothing more for the book to actually be a good SW read. but it might be more of the same, perhaps a little better than Inferno. still I'll give the book a read at my library. No war can last forever. Now, in the long and punishing battle between the defiant champions of the New Jedi Order and the juggernaut that is the Galactic Alliance, the endgame is finally at hand. that's too funny...since DR have arrive on the scene we had nothing but war...sure they're different from one another but it seems there's no peace for any galactic citizen, and they're hinting now the war will be over.....to surprise have another one. If they wanted to be realistic they should have written "No war can last forever...unless your living in the GFFA then you just have separate multiple wars with a small chance of peace, the dwindling forces of the NJO and GA have finally reached their final battle....actually the publisher had reached that conclusion two books ago, they just wanted to keep you the reader spending more money on filler novels." The rebel cause is losing ground under the twin blows of Admiral Gilad Pellaeon’s assassination and the death of Mara Jade Skywalker. At the same time, the Galactic Alliance, with the extraordinary power and dark brilliance of newly ascendant Sith Lord Darth Caedus at its helm, may be unstoppable. Translation: we the publisher needed to sacrifice more characters to the All Mighty corporate Dollar, and that's all we needed to make the decision. while another Republic or form government can use another evil dictator....cause it's real original and it's easy captial. Tormented and torn between the call of duty and the thirst for vengeance, Luke has searched the Force and beheld an unspeakable vision of the galaxy enslaved under tyranny more monstrous than even Palpatine’s. Now it seems that the last, best hope lies in mobilizing the scattered Jedi for one decisive search-and-destroy mission. The objective: eliminate Darth Caedus. Translation: To effectively hold Luke back from solving the problem on his own we decided he do nothing.....o wait this isn't NJO...ok he'll get a force vision of a pretty OBVIOUS future under Jacen's rule. Now miraclously Luke decides to rally the jedi with his leadership to take down Jacen.....yay. It’s a plan that will be as difficult and dangerous to execute as it is daring. For Caedus is a scion of both the Skywalker and Solo bloodlines whose command of the Force surpasses even that of his grandfather Darth Vader. There is only one who is bound by destiny to stand against him in what will surely be a duel to the death, only one with an outside chance of bringing down the dark lord who was once Jacen Solo. Translation: yada yada yada, Jacen is stronger than his grandfather in the darkside but vaguely where to Palpatine ? and now only one bugloving, Fett worshipping, jedi can do it. but will she be distracted by Jag or Zekk....whos knows ? The furious final moments between power and peace are here, and whoever confronts Darth Caedus will decide the outcome–and the fate of those left standing. ok this part surprises me, since they actually mention POWER and PEACE in a sentence. now if there is multple confrontations with Jacen, I wouldn't mind if there was either teamwork between the jedi to bring Jacen down. we already know Luke is more than capable...but this battle should be epic and intense and masterful where one false move will be your last. but I expect too much....... also over the break I picked up two comic trades. Mark Waid's wonderful run on the Fantastic Four and Geoff John's revival of Hal Jordan. First the really good stuff.. Fantastic Four 60-70, 500-502 Synopsis: The Fantastic Four deal with not only a intergalatic parasite, a mathematical expression, one another, but with being relevant in modern times. Doctor Doom meanwhile has made a deal with the devil....Literally! will the Fantastic Four be able to deal with the new Doom and all of his magic ? The Good: This is what a Fantastic Four comic should be, not too serious, not too overly humorous, action packed, dramatic, focus on the family, and with a hint of Sci-fi. From reading the first issue on you are immediately hooked with the FF marketing themselves....but not for vanity as Reed proves. The story can come off a light story but it just hides it's depth from the little things(Jonny smelling like a radiator, Ben sounds like a sack of rocks, etc) and the bigger ones ( Franklin coping with his stay in hell, Ben talks of living life, Sue's guilt of raising Johnny, Johnny making mature buisness decisions, and Reed's fear of magic)there's much for any FF fan. What I like about the FF and Mark Waid's arc is they're not your standard superheroes....they're a family of explorers who fight crime on the side, they have issues, different perspectives, but ultimately they're a family. Waid's gives focus to this and the individuals who make the FF, but also throws along the villian of the week. which works for FF, as someone said before.."Mark Waid gets it, he gets Fantastic Four." a must have. Mike Wierngo's art comes off cartoony, yet it works for the story and the characters. anyone familiar with Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man knows what I mean. The Bad: not really much.....I just wondered how did Reed fixed his face at the end of 502 and what's his plan. 10/10...I had to give it a solid 10 it just kept impressing and kept me itching to see what was on the next page. this is a must have for comic fans, I love this HC and look forward to more stories. Child if you ever interested in Fantastic Four, let me know. this has the family moments and banter we miss in ou SW novels. Green Lantern Rebirth 1-6 Synopsis: Hal Jordan, the greatest of the Green Lanterns went mad and destroyed the Corp. yet he tried to redeem himself by sacrificing his life to reiginite the sun. Now poessed by the Spectre, he finds out he's not the only on who survived. I decided to tread into DC waters to get a feel of their universe. Plus the great Bruce Timm's Justice League got mereally interested on Green Lantern, so I wanted to start right. Basically DC had a bad story idea, they took the fans beloved hero Hal Jordan and turned him evil...sounds familiar Child ? but instead of redeeming him they have him slaughter his fellow Green Lanterns and the entire Corp. Fans were outraged, and DC brought out a new and hipper Green Lantern....Kyle Rayner. Geoff Johns does the impossible and makes sense of the terrible plotline and intertwine it with more depth and absolved Hal Jordan of his crimes. He was poessed by the Parallax a evil entity that is the embodiement of fear. Basically we deal with the characters of Hal, Kyle, and what's left of the Lantern Corp. The story is good starting point for newbies to get into the characters before they read No Fear. I was actually impressed by the story, Johns fleshes out made Green Lantern great and gets rid of the bad plotline. 8/10 JB HAHAHAHA! Mario Kart Wii! It's out, I've a copy and I came, I saw and kicked arse, both online and off! sweet, wonder if Ironman is out already by you..I noticed the Wii is sporting a awesome duel mode with Luke as a duelist. Oh? I'm bragging? And US posters don't have it yet? Oh....I had no idea! I hope you get hit a by a blue shell. Also acquired Iron Man 15-18, 21-27 and have been quite impressed with where the Knaufs have taken their story, it makes for an excellent read but also meshes very well with the Cap and Thunderbolts titles too. As to how it'll end? Iron Man 28 is due next week! someone is catching Shellhead fever you read Secret Invasion yet ? Child Trying to catch up a bit. I haven't had too much time to post lately. My mother broke her hip AND her wrist Wednesday evening, so life is even more hectic than usual. I'm sorry to hear that. It looks like others have tighter schedules too. Havent seen MS86 or Master Starwalker around lately either. this is my brief interim til my finals... -----signature----- " The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."-Darth Vader "Anakin wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."- George Lucas
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 4/13 9:02pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 4/13 9:04pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Charlemagne19
	Amazon.com is running a special on Robotech. For 40 dollars, you can buy the entire 85 episode Robotech Remastered series. It was just recently released. Frankly, I only originally owned the Macross series of Robotech and was really surprised to find that Moespedia (The third series) was almost as good. http://www.amazon.com/Robotech-Protoculture-Collection-Rebecca-Forstadt/dp/B000B5IOY8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1208145369&sr=8-1 One warning, though. The Protoculture collection from Amazon.com takes like 2 weeks to ship but its worth it for effectively only 25% of the cost (the entire series normally costs about 129.00 Dollars. I got mine for $75 at Best Buy just monday though. That's not bad for less than a buck an episode.) And yes, Macross is overall better than Robotech but I tend to think that the latter has finally become its own thing. I tend to think of it as Earth-1 and Earth-2 from DC comics. Justice Society vs. Justice league. And the Omnibus' are hard to find sadly but you can get the novelizations of the Robotech series at any store nowadays for 6.99 a piece. They're by James Luceno under his Mckinney (not Mckinley) alias. -----signature----- Check out Halt Evil Doer!: The RPG setting for Super Heroes! Halt Evil Doer PDF: http://tinyurl.com/555axt
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Nobody145 Registered: Feb '07	Date Posted: 4/14 12:27am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	You mean the "New Generation" era? The one with Scott Bernard and such? Or the original Moespedia anime series? Though the novels kinda tie everything together in a grand, generation spanning saga (with a proper finale), though too bad the anime can't quite compare to that. I actually liked some of the in-between novels a lot, since being between sagas they could have multiple generations represented, like the Zentraedi Rebellion. Or was it uprising? Something like that. How are the Remastered series? Good quality? I'll probably get the Amazon thing. $100+ for the whole series is a bit hard to explain paying for to my parents, but less than $40 sounds like a really, really good deal. A few weeks shipping (and free shipping at that) I don't mind too much. Yeah, the RH blurby really doesn't fil me with confidence on the last LotF novel. I know the Confederation are the bad guys, but are they even mentioned? Oh yeah, the new Green Lantern series is very, very good. If you thought Rebirth was good, the Sinestro Corps War is even better, as is most of the lead-up to that War, and those are just the first two parts of a trilogy, with the third part coming up in 2009. I love quite a few DC series at the moment and don't really care for most of Marvel, though there are a few exceptions, a few series that are still pretty good quality like Captain America, Iron Man and Iron Fist, even if IF's writer is leaving in a few more issues, unfortunately. On the DC side, the Booster Gold and Blue Beetle (the 3rd Beetle) series are excellent, though Blue Beetle's first mega-arc just ended, which unfortunately leads to a different writer, but there is still hope. And is the Mario Kart Wii wheel really that fun? Oh well, in the meantime I'll just have to be content playing Super Smash Brothers Brawl until then. Oh poor US. Though I've heard the Gamecube and Classic Controller schemes are so-so, but as I never really played Double Dash that much (just Mario Kart DS), I don't mind. I just wish we could use a DS as a controller. -----signature----- Don't mind me, I'm nobody important.
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 4/14 1:01am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 4/14 1:02am (1 edits total) Edited By: Charlemagne19
	Nobody posted: You mean the "New Generation" era? The one with Scott Bernard and such? Or the original Moespedia anime series? Though the novels kinda tie everything together in a grand, generation spanning saga (with a proper finale), though too bad the anime can't quite compare to that. I actually liked some of the in-between novels a lot, since being between sagas they could have multiple generations represented, like the Zentraedi Rebellion. Or was it uprising? Something like that. Both. It was Khyron's Rebellion followed by the Zentraedi Uprising. I mean the New Generation era with Scott Bernard and company (who stars in the Robotech: Shadow Chronicles movie---don't think anyone else does since the whole "cross-generations saga" thing is mostly a lie. It's also about Scott and the new guys). Though the original Moespedia pilot is in the extras along with a few other examples of the original series (Macross/Southern Cross). Nobody posted: How are the Remastered series? Good quality? I'll probably get the Amazon thing. $100+ for the whole series is a bit hard to explain paying for to my parents, but less than $40 sounds like a really, really good deal. A few weeks shipping (and free shipping at that) I don't mind too much. It's still early 1980s animation but the picture is much clearer and crisper. I was really surprised by the quality in many places. I got my money's worth, so I recommend it. As for the blurb, I'm not sure what to make of it either. We'll just have to wait and see. -----signature----- Check out Halt Evil Doer!: The RPG setting for Super Heroes! Halt Evil Doer PDF: http://tinyurl.com/555axt
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 4/14 11:24am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	MS86, The Good: This is what a Fantastic Four comic should be, not too serious, not too overly humorous, action packed, dramatic, focus on the family, and with a hint of Sci-fi. From reading the first issue on you are immediately hooked with the FF marketing themselves....but not for vanity as Reed proves. The story can come off a light story but it just hides it's depth from the little things(Jonny smelling like a radiator, Ben sounds like a sack of rocks, etc) and the bigger ones ( Franklin coping with his stay in hell, Ben talks of living life, Sue's guilt of raising Johnny, Johnny making mature buisness decisions, and Reed's fear of magic)there's much for any FF fan. * There's such a lot going on in these first arcs and they're not light and fluffly at all. ie. Franklin being sent to hell by Doom. What I like about the FF and Mark Waid's arc is they're not your standard superheroes....they're a family of explorers who fight crime on the side, they have issues, different perspectives, but ultimately they're a family. Waid's gives focus to this and the individuals who make the FF, but also throws along the villian of the week. which works for FF, as someone said before.."Mark Waid gets it, he gets Fantastic Four." a must have. * Now you know why it's Waid who got me hooked on the FF. Mike Wierngo's art comes off cartoony, yet it works for the story and the characters. anyone familiar with Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man knows what I mean. * Yep, so sad he isn't around anymore. The Bad: not really much.....I just wondered how did Reed fixed his face at the end of 502 and what's his plan. * Buy Volume 2! All WILL be revealed! 10/10...I had to give it a solid 10 it just kept impressing and kept me itching to see what was on the next page. * You will find it is so in the next volume too. Also for info it was at issue 512 that Marvel apparently decided to fire the Waid-wieringo team from the book, but backed down in the face of a storm of protest! this is a must have for comic fans, I love this HC and look forward to more stories. Child if you ever interested in Fantastic Four, let me know. this has the family moments and banter we miss in ou SW novels. * Seconded. I've been recommending COW selected Superman stories but FF is extremely good when done well. I was actually impressed by the story, Johns fleshes out made Green Lantern great and gets rid of the bad plotline. * Cool, it only gets even better from here on. For info, you should read: No Fear GLC: Recharge Infinite Crisis GLC: To Be A Lantern GLC: A Darker Shade Of Green Revenge Of The Green Lanterns Wanted: Hal Jordan Sinestro Corps Vol 1 Sinestro Corps Vol 2 Tales Of The Sinestro Corps * Be aware that DC are being idiots collecting the Sinestro Corps arc, there is a specific reading order with the various Tales forming important parts of it therefore, when you get there, get all 3 collections at once and let me know, I'll send the order to read it all in otherwise it won't be as good as it should be. I hope you get hit a by a blue shell. * Oh, I've been hit by several, plus POW blocks but not enough to stop me taking 1st! And I even escaped a blue shell! someone is catching Shellhead fever you read Secret Invasion yet ? * Yep, want to discuss in depth? Nobody, JB, the Decepticon thing isn't really important, just has some very minor bios, an interview with some writers, and a preview of the Megatron series coming up (not the horrible Origin one, but another). * Thanks, nice to have that confirmed. But what do you mean by Absolute-style? Is that what they call these big collections/omnibuses? * Yep. It started, as far as I know, in 2002/3 when DC experimented with a new format that was double-size hardbacks with slipcases, the range was called Absolute. It was a smash hit with fans, in response to that other companies have done their own version: DHC Library edition, IDW do Premiere editions, Image do a version of it too. Marvel's answer was the Omnibus range, with editions containing 500-1200 pages of material. The Transformers one is about 500 pages. Prices tend to be around the $100 mark, but Amazon tend to sell these when new with a third knocked off. Oh yeah, the new Green Lantern series is very, very good. If you thought Rebirth was good, the Sinestro Corps War is even better, as is most of the lead-up to that War, and those are just the first two parts of a trilogy, with the third part coming up in 2009. I love quite a few DC series at the moment and don't really care for most of Marvel, though there are a few exceptions, a few series that are still pretty good quality like Captain America, Iron Man and Iron Fist, even if IF's writer is leaving in a few more issues, unfortunately. * Unfortunately, they are opting for a cliffhanger finish with 16, therefore my last issue will be probably be #14. On the DC side, the Booster Gold and Blue Beetle (the 3rd Beetle) series are excellent, though Blue Beetle's first mega-arc just ended, which unfortunately leads to a different writer, but there is still hope. * Last I heard Johns and Katz are on for a few more issues to tie it all up then hand over to a new team. It has to be said I'm becoming far more interested than I was in Final Crisis. Have you heard about the Legion story that'll have Johns-Perez doing a story of Superman & The Legion of Superheroes versus Superboy-Prime & The Lrgion Of Supervillains. Add in another series, this time by Johns-Kollins and it's a Flash story and you've 3 potentialy very strong, linked titles. And is the Mario Kart Wii wheel really that fun? * I think it's excellent and once you use it you won't want to return to the old ways. Oh well, in the meantime I'll just have to be content playing Super Smash Brothers Brawl until then. Oh poor US. * We. Don't. Have. Brawl! Ain't payback a bitch? JB -----signature----- Howe: Why? Castle: So they can't walk away. So they can't profit from the pain they've caused..... Howe: And no second chances... Castle: I don't do redemption.
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Nobody145 Registered: Feb '07	Date Posted: 4/14 12:18pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Jedi Ben- Oh, you don't have Brawl yet? Oh, your poor country. Ok, all joking aside- I've never cared much for Fantasic Four myself, so not much interest in those stories, no matter how good they are. Nothing against whoever's currently writing them, its just that... I just don't care too much about a family of four with superpowers, three of whom still look perfectly normal, most of the time are extremely rich, Reed Richards can technobabble his way out of anything, they usually work very well with the government, and except for during Civil War where everyone's intelligence dropped by 50%, adored by the public. I might be wrong about some of those things, but I think I got the jist of their normal status quo. I usually liked more underdog heroes, like Spiderman, at least until recently when Marvel printed arguably the worst story told ever. And no, I don't really count the X-men as underdogs as none of them ever really stay dead, and despite being constantly hated and feared by people, they usually have a nice, cushy mansion, even if said mansion is blown up on what seems to be a weekly basis. Too bad the best X-men writer, Whedon, can't ever follow a deadline, and Claremont's too busy showing how glorious Psylocke and Sage are to care about anyone else (just glanced through an X-men-New Excaliber crossever, Die by the Sword, TPB the other day and felt extremely bored after that). I don't mind DC's arrangement for its hardcovers. The Sinestro Corps Tales aren't really essential reading, they just help fill in gaps, give some more background on characters, or just fill space in some cases. At least Secret Files and Origins will be in the Tales hardcover, I think, that was a nice special. I haven't wasted money on Secret Invasion, but I'm mostly up to date on everything that's happened, I think (half the Marvel Universe has been blown up! Wait, that happens on a daily basis, never mind...). I've seen the trailer for the clash of the Legions, though I'd wish they would first explain how all the different Legions (pre-Crisis, current Legion, or heck, even where the other Legions went). Unless its something to do with the different Earths. I'm perhaps most interested in Booster Gold's journey to time. At first its seems like Rip Hunter, Time Master, just needed someone who nobody preceived as a threat to be an agent in fixing timeline alterations, but given that one comment by Rip at the end of 52, along with some more comments by other people, Booster seems far more important than almost anyone could've dreamed. And even if Ted Kord's comeback from death is temporary, even for me, someone who's never read the original JLI, its great to see the friends together. Not to mention there's speculation that Booster might get another chance to save Ted, as that preview in issue #1 of Booster saving Ted was different from how the current storyline went, so there's still a chance. -----signature----- Don't mind me, I'm nobody important.
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