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Nobody145 Registered: Feb '07	Date Posted: 5/14 12:38am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	On the Spider-woman thing- I've heard speculation that her last "return" from the dead wasn't her but the Skrull queen. Although isn't it kind of stupid to send your ruler as a sleeper agent? But there's a lot of stupid things going on, so never mind. Its still not quite confirmed, but considering the author's obsession with Spider-woman, its possible. I'm more curious about that baby who's with the Secret Avengers. On the Hawkeye thing, he asks her about a specific date that should only have significance for Hawkeye and Mockingbird, and she speaks the truth, so Hawkeye believes its her. The problem is if she is a Skrull with telepathy, its kinda easy to read the questioner's mind to find the answer, not to mention why she didn't ask the Skrull Hawkeye in the first place (she says she forgot to, but that's a convenient excuse). And also, I refuse to touch Spiderman until they retcon the retcon that cancelled the marriage. Though I heard somewhere that Peter's webshooters (the organic ones just vanished) kept breaking down, making for very predictable dangers. And please, please don't compare Stazi's ragtag fleet to Battlestar Galactica. I assume you mean the current version, since if Stazi were anything like that, half the cast would be screwing the other half and they'd be so dysfunctional, you'd be amazed they weren't dead already. I've read most of Star Wars Invincible (skimmed it mainly) and just to warn people, its better than Revelations, but... well, I won't go into spoilers, but... it disappointed me with some of the finale, which is kind of surprising as I had really low expectations, but oh well. I wont' say more as the spoiler ban is still in place. I'm looking forward to the third Legacy TPB, I just hope the fourth one also comes out this year (there's a slim chance there'll be enough issues). -----signature----- Don't mind me, I'm nobody important.
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 5/14 3:58am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	To be fair, the Battlestar Galactica crew is actually functioning better than it should in all likelihood. It's a group of survivors post an attempted genocide and its cramped into an extremely small caravan across the galaxy. Everyone is suffering PTSD and holding up remarkably well. I'm surprised more sex and violence don't show up. My predictions for Skrulls * The Dead Mockingbird (allowing Bobbi to be raised from the dead) * Blackbolt (already confirmed) * Quicksilver (allowing him to be redeemed) * Scarlet Witch (ditto) * There will be A Tony Stark Skrull but not the only one. * Speedball and the New Warriors * The original Alpha Flight Just my picks. A RETURN TO STATUS QUO! -----signature----- Check out Halt Evil Doer!: The RPG setting for Super Heroes! Halt Evil Doer PDF: http://tinyurl.com/555axt
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 5/14 3:39pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Nobody145 posted: And please, please don't compare Stazi's ragtag fleet to Battlestar Galactica. I assume you mean the current version, since if Stazi were anything like that, half the cast would be screwing the other half and they'd be so dysfunctional, you'd be amazed they weren't dead already. Actually it was Nick who pointed out the BSG vibe of 'screw you' that the issue gives off and I agree with that. As for BSG, I like it, you don't - not a problem. The reason I like it is that it is a show that finally depicts the military well without it being cuddly. There's an awful lot of love for military-type structures in US SF TV, BSG breaks with this by showing the staff as flawed and cold, because they have to be. You can't say there aren't similarities between Stasi and Adama - both are complete bastards when they have to be. Do I care for Starbuck and Apollo? After the 3rd series no, but I like the sheer competence displayed by the rest of the crew when it's required. I like that BSG is the one show that really takes the whole realism angle to its logical conclusion. Does this mean I'd like BSG-style SW? What would be the point of that? I like SW for SW, BSG for BSG, they're different stories with different styles. I like both. Striker, Finished Terok Nor Bk 2 - very good, more later as it's getting late over here. JB -----signature----- "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived." Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
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MasterSkywalker86 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/15 12:09am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	is it too early to talk about Luke in Invincible ? from what I'm hearing Luke actually does some impressive feats in the Force and that usually gets me hooked in a SW novel pretty easy...at least when I was younger, but if the novel is as entertaining as say Inferno and Betrayal.... I can't believe how fast time pass by, I remember getting Betrayal and looking forward to the 9 book parter hoping to be farcry from NJO, but the series was deceptive from the first book, it seem to retain some OT class with some PT themes which I felt would be a good meshing of the two and breathe new life to Star and Wars. but after a good opening in book one the series started to follow the path of it's predecessor and held back important events until it reached the next HC, honestly the series could have been done neatly as a trilogy, with Fett's sidestory as a tie-in book. the only book that I felt had some importance which wasn't a HC was probably Inferno, out of all the books excluding Invincible it had the most action and moved the story along. Unlike Denning's previous work with DNT, there was no hesitation, no alien civilizations(at least ones that did not wreak of Starship Troopers), what we had was action, and lo and behold Luke was at the center of the action....for once in the series. the funny thing is I felt Denning contradict himself in the interview when he said Luke's handling of the Force wouldn't be like a superhero, see Inferno for evidence, yet lets face Luke and the other jedi have achieve that status and Luke being the most powerful one is going to heft his power around when times are dire....at least in theory. see it took 6 books for Luke to actually do fighting, with none of the writer's attempts to hold him back, which I feel is getting really old. I mean instead of injuring him, or using Mara as a hostage(can't use that anymore), why don't they amped up the stakes by throwing a battlion of guys or a small landing fleet against him ? It's not like we're going to see his power on the small screen or the big screen any time soon, excluding the OT, so why don't we get some bargain for our buck ? so can anyone tell me if Luke demonstrates his mastery of the Force and it being far above Yoda this time ? aside of Luke today, with the news of the Avengers movies on the way, and the plans to make more DC hero movies, does anyone have any ideas, or particular stories they want to see in the big screen ? Like for Captain America, Thor, Antman ? Personally for Cap, I would like the first movie to focus on his battle through the war, from recruitment, to the Super Soldier Serum, to fighting the trenches in epic battles like D-Day, Bastonge, as well as his lesser known battles he fought in. Think of a Band of Brothers/Saving Private Ryan and add Bulletproof Monk to the effects. I don't think adding Namor and the Torches are going to work(too many superheroes) but add Bucky as say a private or a Sgt. and call Cap's squad the "Invaders". I like Cap's character to have the same characteristics that Kirby and Simon gave him, such as his morals and natural heroic nature, I would also like to see Millar's Cap, man out of time take to it(but not being the dick Ultimate Cap can be). as well which my hope is the movie will end with Steve being frozen in the Artic and SHIELD finding him or he takes his first two steps out of being statis with the sequel focusing on his adjustment to the modern world. Finally I would like to see Brubaker's characterization where you have Cap adapted to the modern but is still being his own man and much of the drama he adds. I could see Steve played by a pumped out version of Damon, but I still think there are more choices out there. the cast of characters should have Steve of course, Bucky, Sharon, Steve's first love, Fury, Red Skull, Crossbones, Master Man, Sin, Hydra, AIM, Zemo, and Faustus. Thor should also start as a period piece being set in Asgard while the sequel deals with him on Earth. as for Antman..I'm up for suggestions....I mean a lot of people are going to have a hard time to believe this guy is going to have any use.....unless they add the goliath serum to the mix. then for the Spidey films(being s fan I felt I should add them ), while I like the third movie I feel another director should take charge of the new trilogy. One of the things I like about Spider-man is he was handled by a lot of great writers and artists, if the new trilogy could retain more of the Stan Lee Kirby days, to the Romita days with the modernization of Bendis portrayal, and mix it, it would feel more like a Spider-man movie. One thing that has got on my nerves is Spider-man didn't made idle banter using it as a tactic to slow down the enemy and to make the reader laugh for the most part. that's one of the reasons I like the character he was a comedian superhero...sort a like Seinfeld. Tobey played a good bookish Peter and down to earth guy, but where's the character's humor ? it's as much a trait of the character as his moral center. next off perhaps we need some cast changes....Tobey I felt has been doing a good job but should look into the character's humor and mature a bit and get off being just geeky Peter....update Pete's haircut...see comics, for Mary Jane I feel the character has been dumb down to just damsel in distress, where's the ferocious MJ, the girl who handle things on her own ? also I like that Raimi brought a bit of that dystfunctinal family she had, but they should play a around with it and her being stress out, with being a girlfriend of a super hero, handling a acting/modeling career, also there should be a closeness to MJ and Aunt May that JMS portrayed which I felt he did well. plus the MJ leaving Pete due to the fear for his life could lead him into dating Gwen, which works since he met Gwen in college and left MJ due to her party girl image. I feel they should get another actress for MJ, Dunst no offense never really appeal to me that well. Villian wise and plot wise, the story should progress with more adult themes, like with Gwen's death, Carnage's massacre, the duality of the Lizard, as well as adding Venom to hurt the character in many ways. though I feel the movies should aside from Venom stick to more realistic characters, though Lizard contradicts what I just said I feel they could make that into a interesting story. Tombstone and Hammerhead could handle well if they deal with it as Mafia story, Vulture never strike me as a big villian, Carnage could possibly work, due to his suicidal nature, electro depending on it's handle, maybe a bit like Storm in X-men cause I rather not see another superman like villian. Scorpion if handled well could make for a interesting fights. perhaps Black Cat should to be introduce during the period of Peter and MJ's separation which would add even more tension. also I recomment for any Spidey fan to watch Spectacular Spider-man, it's simply amazing....this series is Marvel's best entry to compete against DC's animation. anywho that's my 2 cents. JB * Since the next arc is Claws of the Dragon....There is quite a bit of history in that one, without giving the game away I cannot say more. good to hear, sad to say I know about Krayts' identity, but would like to see his defeat at the hands of Obi-Wan. does it end with Cade being rescued ? * In normal TPB form it's 2 vols, in Absolute it's one big HC! see that's sorta a shame cause I hear most DC crossovers are in 2 volumes, but then again they contain more issues than Marvel's. * Don't know, but Fury and co will be making an impact in issues 3 or 4. I would like to see how he trained his new crew and what cards are up his sleeve. I also wonder how this will affect Hulkling, being part Skrull himself.... * OK, I'll try. In 2004 DC did a series called Identity Crisis which had a major revelation of how the heroes handled a truly horrific act of villainy. The repercussions of that reverberated through the DCU and the groundwork of Infinite Crisis was laid. Infinite Crisis led to One Year Later and 52 that was the story of the year gap. But one more Crisis remains, a Final Crisis. So it's not necessary to follow up the other crossovers, how were the stories ? is Johns handling Final ? * Do not confuse this with what Johns is doing in Green Lantern which is: 2005: Green Lantern Rebirth 2007: Green Lantern Sinestro Corps 2009: Green Lantern Blackest Night which is his own trilogy, I'm looking forward to expansion of the GL universe, the concept of intergalactic police who could do almost anything through force of will, is very star wars like. Hal as a character has more depth than most people believe. He's fearless yes, but to the point of almost wrecklessness, yet he will be the one to come through at the end. and the character has dealt with the lost of a love one in his own way, facing the fear head on to his mother's dismay. I like how the character just has a joy for wanting to fly, while I perfer to stay on the ground I relate with the character's wanting to touch the stars and do the impossible. * And yes, there is a Final Crisis series connected to GL and a GL story entitled Blackest Night Prelude! hmmmm....will it be necessary ? ....I might want to hear how Final Crisis pans out before I fork over cash, it's hard enough while I'm saving for a car but my reading list consists now of. Green Lantern No Fear 12.99 Captain America Death of Captain America part 1-2 14.99 each New Avengers Trust 14.99 Legacy volume 3 17.99 Spider-man Brand New Day 24.99(though I might just wait for tpb) The Order Volume 2 (12.99) at least for the summer plus continuing on Visions of the Future, once I finish Specter of the Past, and I'm planning on buying one of those slim PS2'S since I have no consoles....I'm going to be working for a while... * Not quite, but you'll love what he does do.... seriously here comes trade # 7 on my to do list. Nobody On the Spider-woman thing- I've heard speculation that her last "return" from the dead wasn't her but the Skrull queen. Although isn't it kind of stupid to send your ruler as a sleeper agent? But there's a lot of stupid things going on, so never mind. Its still not quite confirmed, but considering the author's obsession with Spider-woman, its possible. I'm more curious about that baby who's with the Secret Avengers. i'm confuse can you please explain and please tell me if they killed her off, as many people enjoy the character. heck I even read the origin story and it wasn't half bad. though I don't understand how useful a sleeper agent as a baby is any way....unless he's the he the skrulls keep refering to. On the Hawkeye thing, he asks her about a specific date that should only have significance for Hawkeye and Mockingbird, and she speaks the truth, so Hawkeye believes its her. The problem is if she is a Skrull with telepathy, its kinda easy to read the questioner's mind to find the answer, not to mention why she didn't ask the Skrull Hawkeye in the first place (she says she forgot to, but that's a convenient excuse). And also, I refuse to touch Spiderman until they retcon the retcon that cancelled the marriage. Though I heard somewhere that Peter's webshooters (the organic ones just vanished) kept breaking down, making for very predictable dangers. this is what bugs me, Mocking Bird brings back some hope to poor Clint but it just going to end up in tragedy. unless he knows from the start and just want to hold his "girl" one last time. I really don't enjoy them adding the webshooters, though the organics in the previous story should have been handled well.....we should have progessed beyond mechanical web shooters it's 2008. I've read most of Star Wars Invincible (skimmed it mainly) and just to warn people, its better than Revelations, but... well, I won't go into spoilers, but... it disappointed me with some of the finale, which is kind of surprising as I had really low expectations, but oh well. I wont' say more as the spoiler ban is still in place. does Luke do anything cool, and would you recommend me buying a tpb or borrowing it ? I'm looking forward to the third Legacy TPB, I just hope the fourth one also comes out this year (there's a slim chance there'll be enough issues). Legacy seems to be the only SW license I'm willing to follow now with no questions asked. C * The Dead Mockingbird (allowing Bobbi to be raised from the dead) just builds up some drama IMO, beside wasn't her death confirmed to be human ? I mean her soul is still in Mephisto's realm. I'm hoping Bendis had Hawkeye using her instead of a crutch. * Blackbolt (already confirmed) wonder where they have him holded up, and what device can hold up his mouth. * Quicksilver (allowing him to be redeemed) I suppose it could lead to his path of redemption. * Scarlet Witch (ditto) that I feel would be sort of a cop out, but one people would be willing to accept. much like Hal Jordan's return in Rebirth. * There will be A Tony Stark Skrull but not the only one. the one that's tinkering about I feel is the original, but wouldn't Stark be a likely suspect ? * Speedball and the New Warriors you mean he'll start being Speedball or will it be Penace and the New Warriors ? * The original Alpha Flight that I think shouldn't happen, it kinda undermines the danger of the Collective. -----signature----- " The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."-Darth Vader "Anakin wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."- George Lucas
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 5/15 7:11am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Scarran posted: I would argue that Bludhaven was worse than Gotham well at least until it got destroyed by the Society Of Supervillians. Actually, by definition I think being a radioactive fall out scorch on the Earth would make it worse than Gotham. It's tragic really because I actually enjoyed the Nightwing series before annihilating his city ruined any chance of it being rebuilt. The series was all downhill once Devin Grayson took over. It seemed that once Blockbuster was killed, the series really lost all of its unique and twisted edge. Which is tragic because Nightwing was actually finally starting to be his own man rather than Batman 2.0 and reliving his Teen Titans days. The Barbara/Nightwing romance also crashed and burned because of DCU. -----signature----- Check out Halt Evil Doer!: The RPG setting for Super Heroes! Halt Evil Doer PDF: http://tinyurl.com/555axt
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 5/15 7:17am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 5/15 7:18am (1 edits total) Edited By: Charlemagne19
	MasterSkywalker86 posted: * The Dead Mockingbird (allowing Bobbi to be raised from the dead) just builds up some drama IMO, beside wasn't her death confirmed to be human ? I mean her soul is still in Mephisto's realm. I'm hoping Bendis had Hawkeye using her instead of a crutch. * Blackbolt (already confirmed) wonder where they have him holded up, and what device can hold up his mouth. * Quicksilver (allowing him to be redeemed) I suppose it could lead to his path of redemption. * Scarlet Witch (ditto) that I feel would be sort of a cop out, but one people would be willing to accept. much like Hal Jordan's return in Rebirth. * There will be A Tony Stark Skrull but not the only one. the one that's tinkering about I feel is the original, but wouldn't Stark be a likely suspect ? * Speedball and the New Warriors you mean he'll start being Speedball or will it be Penace and the New Warriors ? * The original Alpha Flight that I think shouldn't happen, it kinda undermines the danger of the Collective. 1. I think that series confirmed that Bobbi's soul WASN'T in Mesphito's Realm. It was all a trick by the Son of Satan (Daemon Hellstrom) in order to get Clint to go to ridiculous lengths to rescue Hellcat from Mesphito's realm. Really, of all the characters to ressurect....Hellcat? Patsy Walker? 2. The entire Inhumans series left a bad taste in my mouth. Luna being an Inhuman is a smack in the face of all that makes her unique. 3. It's not like his current path has much in the way of interest. He's a total nutcase. 4. Yes, that's my take on the matter. 5. Basically, I think Stark has his Skrull double puttering around and he's the guy responsible for some of the evil deeds done by Stark to smooth over things. 4. I'm going to think Pennance and the New Warriors killed at Stamford will turn out to be Skrulls. 5. Yeah but the last Alpha Flight crashed and burned. Plus, they tried and failed to do something with the original Vindicator. It's not like Alpha Flight has been a success for 15 years or more. -----signature----- Check out Halt Evil Doer!: The RPG setting for Super Heroes! Halt Evil Doer PDF: http://tinyurl.com/555axt
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MasterSkywalker86 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/15 8:03am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	1. I think that series confirmed that Bobbi's soul WASN'T in Mesphito's Realm. It was all a trick by the Son of Satan (Daemon Hellstrom) in order to get Clint to go to ridiculous lengths to rescue Hellcat from Mesphito's realm. i hate retcons.....yeesh Son of Satan what a concept I hardly remember the character thankfully. Really, of all the characters to ressurect....Hellcat? Patsy Walker? again that's all a blur to me. 2. The entire Inhumans series left a bad taste in my mouth. Luna being an Inhuman is a smack in the face of all that makes her unique. I still want to know or open to suggestions how did they manage to knock out a heavy hitter like the king of the inhumans ? 3. It's not like his current path has much in the way of interest. He's a total nutcase. he does need to fix his mistakes, but I never saw the guy as a hero even on the Avengers.... 4. Yes, that's my take on the matter. honestly, I could have foretold u the idea would be ridiculous if I read comics back in the day, it's very similar to the early ideas for NJO. hey lets take the hero of the story aged him up, turn him evil, and replace him with a hipper, younger version... why don't we just introduce the younger character without the turn to evil ? NEVER!!! I'm glad that Johns being a fan, and the fans were able to retcon the idea in a way that made sense. 5. Basically, I think Stark has his Skrull double puttering around and he's the guy responsible for some of the evil deeds done by Stark to smooth over things. I dunno if you're talking about Civil War, then basically the story looses relevance. one of the things I like about Civil War is two people could be right without agreeing. 4. I'm going to think Pennance and the New Warriors killed at Stamford will turn out to be Skrulls. yeah seems like also a waste, if all deaths are going to retcon to just being skrulls it's really going to get some backlash by fans. pretty soon you're going to tell me Goliath is alive... 5. Yeah but the last Alpha Flight crashed and burned. Plus, they tried and failed to do something with the original Vindicator. so you want the originals to come back ? isn't Sasquatch the only one alive ? -----signature----- " The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."-Darth Vader "Anakin wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."- George Lucas
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 5/15 8:17am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	MasterSkywalker86 posted: I still want to know or open to suggestions how did they manage to knock out a heavy hitter like the king of the inhumans ? Blackbolt is still vulnerable to mental attacks (like Superman). One could assume he could be put to sleep by magic or psychic abilities and simply kept that way. Black Bolt's total physical invulnerability and super-scream aren't really defenses against what the Skrulls can do there. Also, despite it being a Skrull, Namor killed a guy with Blackbolt's power. Despite what people think, Namor and Hulk are stronger than BB. MasterSkywalker86 posted: yeah seems like also a waste, if all deaths are going to retcon to just being skrulls it's really going to get some backlash by fans. pretty soon you're going to tell me Goliath is alive... Marvel is the Lord God of All Retcon companies. If they think they can sell an extra-issue by retconning away something then they will. If you think preserving the integrity of previous stories is any consideration, I point to "One More Day." Hell, I'm actually agreeing with Joe Quesada. We've gone this far. Bring Gwen Stacy back. MasterSkywalker86 posted: so you want the originals to come back ? isn't Sasquatch the only one alive ? Alpha Flight has never actually been GOOD to be honest. James Hudson may be the Canadian Captain America but he's also a wet blanket watered down version of Steve Rogers who just happens to be an atheist. However, the team actually is halfway decent when you get right down to it. I think they should bring back the original Alpha Flight with Northstar and his nutty slut/virgin sister Aurora plus The Mountie and Puck's daughter. It's certainly a better team than the Avengers: West Coast and Beta Ray Bill being the new Alpha Flight. -----signature----- Check out Halt Evil Doer!: The RPG setting for Super Heroes! Halt Evil Doer PDF: http://tinyurl.com/555axt
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MasterSkywalker86 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/15 9:05am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Blackbolt is still vulnerable to mental attacks (like Superman). One could assume he could be put to sleep by magic or psychic abilities and simply kept that way. Black Bolt's total physical invulnerability and super-scream aren't really defenses against what the Skrulls can do there. ah, that could explain what happen to the character. now the skrulls are all super powered out, I guess they could have easily done both. Also, despite it being a Skrull, Namor killed a guy with Blackbolt's power. Despite what people think, Namor and Hulk are stronger than BB. no one's denying Namor is a heavy hitter, but everyone agrees that he's the biggest arse of the sea, so very few people root for the guy. for the heavy hitters I think Thor, Silver Surfer, Hulk, Namor, Strange, and now Sentry is in that class. though I think Phoenix is on or above that list, not counting upgrades like OF Thor. Marvel is the Lord God of All Retcon companies. If they think they can sell an extra-issue by retconning away something then they will. If you think preserving the integrity of previous stories is any consideration, I point to "One More Day." not disagreeing with that, but they can't retconn all about..look at the backlash of "One More Day" Hell, I'm actually agreeing with Joe Quesada. We've gone this far. Bring Gwen Stacy back. way to play devil's advocate actually they were thinking of bringing her back, but I believe it was Joe Q who ultimately wanted to rest the character. what I HOPE is they RETCON the stupid story of Norman and Gwen having an affair...even JMS wish he didn't make the story and was hoping to make the kids Peter and Gwen's which would have worked better, but ultimately Marvel didn't have the guts to do it....not like they wouldn't die later on. Alpha Flight has never actually been GOOD to be honest. James Hudson may be the Canadian Captain America but he's also a wet blanket watered down version of Steve Rogers who just happens to be an atheist. right a Canadian version of X-Factor, never really cared for them. but with Marvel having the success of bringing c-listers to the forefront I wouldn't mind Bendis, Fraction, Brubaker, or any of the good writers to breathe new life into the characters. However, the team actually is halfway decent when you get right down to it. I think they should bring back the original Alpha Flight with Northstar and his nutty slut/virgin sister Aurora plus The Mountie and Puck's daughter. honestly I could care less if they brought the guys back or not, it's not impossible it's comics. but I think they won't do it. I still hold reservations that bobbi is the original. It's certainly a better team than the Avengers: West Coast and Beta Ray Bill being the new Alpha Flight. yet Beta Ray Bill is gone, and Thor is back....what's this new trend where friends are always missing in action see Captain America. -----signature----- " The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."-Darth Vader "Anakin wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."- George Lucas
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Nobody145 Registered: Feb '07	Date Posted: 5/15 1:38pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 5/15 2:07pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Nobody145
	The real problem with replacing Blackbolt is the question of what the hell is going on back on the moon with Blackbolt's kingdom? I thought Silent War (which careened out of Son of M which was also leftover from House of M) had Blackbolt's evil brother or something taking over after having planted something in Blackbolt's mind years ago, which allowed him to escape. Unless when the Skrulls replaced Blackbolt they also copied that brainwashing, but meh, whatever. I don't see Quicksilver as a Skrull because of how tied up he was with the whole Wanda and House of M things, though recently I heard he just got his powers back, but meh, its always hard to tell what's going with him these days. And how could the Scarlet Witch be a Skrull after she wrecked the universe several times? If any Skrull had that much power, then there would be no need for an invasion, the Skrulls would just be in power, and that would be it. Unless you mean a Skrull would pretend to be Scarlet Witch, but considering she's probably not all that popular at the moment, she might not be a good choice. And I wouldn't put anything past Marvel these days. Yeah, One More Day generated a lot of backlash, but anyone with a passing interest in Spiderman and half a brain would've been able to tell Marvel what a ridiculously horrible idea OMD was, even moreso than outright killing MJ would've been (though I think they tried that too before), so its not like Marvel should be suprised by all the hate after that. Not unless they're extremely stupid and delusional, more stupid and delusional than I had ever believed, and I have a pretty low opinion of Marvel after their last couple of events, but that's possible too. As long as it sells, anything goes. And yeah, might as well bring back Gwen Stacy, they've already thrown continuity and common sense out the window and danced over its bloody corpse. And sorry to complain about Battlestar Galactica so much, its just that... I was a fan of the original, so I wince at a somewhat campy 80s sci-fi series I like being remade as one of the more messed up crews in sci-fi yet. Though I also hate kara Thrace, so that might be it too (who hasn't she screwed up, mentally or physically yet?). Whatever happened to the Dic/Barbara romance anyway? I remember Dick proposed to her before One Year Later, then after the time jump, she's just... gone from his life. Not sure if that was ever explained. And too bad the last Alpha Flight had such a... random death, killed off by the Collective or something? By the way, anyone read the first issue of Batman R.I.P. yet? Its... somewhat creepy, but looks to be shaping up to be a pretty good Batman event. -----signature----- Don't mind me, I'm nobody important.
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 5/15 2:12pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 5/15 2:25pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Jedi Ben
	MS86, good to hear, sad to say I know about Krayts' identity, but would like to see his defeat at the hands of Obi-Wan. does it end with Cade being rescued ? * Ever heard that there's a gap between a synopsis and execution? The example I use to illustrate is the TIE attack at Endor. You can tell someone about it, but when they see it they will still be impressed. The next Legacy arc is like that! see that's sorta a shame cause I hear most DC crossovers are in 2 volumes, but then again they contain more issues than Marvel's. * First, it's not a crossover! Second, it was done as 6, 64-page comics. Therefore the 2 vols collect 3 issues each, coming to near 200 pages each. Third, Cooke's tale spans literally 15 years from the end of WW2 to the start of the 60s weaving in all the social history of the time. So it's not necessary to follow up the other crossovers, how were the stories ? is Johns handling Final ? * I've felt Infinite Crisis gets a bad rep due to people focusing on the continuity effects rather than the story. The story works very well, as for continuity, where DC is concerned it's best to be flexible and not worry about it. Similarly Identity Crisis was quite well-done, it may be a plot from there is dealt with in an FC mini-series entitled Revelations. * Morrison is handling the Final Crisis with JG Jones on art, who did the covers for 52, but there are other series: - Final Crisis: Legion Of 3 Worlds - Johns & Perez - Final Crisis: Rage Of The Red Lanterns - Johns & Reis - Final Crisis: Rogues' Revenge - Johns & Kolins * This isn't all of them, but the ones I'll definitely be getting because each creative team is perfect. hmmmm....will it be necessary ? ....I might want to hear how Final Crisis pans out before I fork over cash, it's hard enough while I'm saving for a car but my reading list consists now of. * Given how the pieces have been assembled thus far, yeah, I'd say so. Green Lantern No Fear 12.99 Captain America Death of Captain America part 1-2 14.99 each New Avengers Trust 14.99 Legacy volume 3 17.99 Spider-man Brand New Day 24.99(though I might just wait for tpb) The Order Volume 2 (12.99) * Those prices are in $ aren't they? plus continuing on Visions of the Future, once I finish Specter of the Past, and I'm planning on buying one of those slim PS2'S since I have no consoles....I'm going to be working for a while... * If you get a PS2, get Final Fantasy XII - it will take over your life but you won't care! here comes trade # 7 on my to do list. * I'll keep you appraised with non-spoiler comments of a cryptic nature! RK, Just when I think it isn't possible to like Dukat more than I do, I get proven wrong, for in this book he's well on his way to being the charismatic villain who could charm you into joining him that we know. I found Laren's final choice of interest as that is where it was going - that Bajorans would kill their own people and justify it later. What will be very interesting in Bk 3 is seeing just how much, or little, impact the resistance had. It was good to return to Darrah Mace and Valo II, I have my own suspicions about who killed Gar Osen too. In the end what the books really show is how to do a dark and complex tale that is nonetheless balanced with hope. JB -----signature----- "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived." Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
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MasterSkywalker86 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/15 2:58pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Nobody The real problem with replacing Blackbolt is the question of what the hell is going on back on the moon with Blackbolt's kingdom? I thought Silent War (which careened out of Son of M which was also leftover from House of M) had Blackbolt's evil brother or something taking over after having planted something in Blackbolt's mind years ago, which allowed him to escape. Unless when the Skrulls replaced Blackbolt they also copied that brainwashing, but meh, whatever. the truth is out there ? I don't see Quicksilver as a Skrull because of how tied up he was with the whole Wanda and House of M things, though recently I heard he just got his powers back, but meh, its always hard to tell what's going with him these days. And how could the Scarlet Witch be a Skrull after she wrecked the universe several times? If any Skrull had that much power, then there would be no need for an invasion, the Skrulls would just be in power, and that would be it. Unless you mean a Skrull would pretend to be Scarlet Witch, but considering she's probably not all that popular at the moment, she might not be a good choice. I agree, if wanda or pietro are skrulls doesn't it kinda undermine the previous crossovers. I think these are one of the thing Bendis is kinda looking to avoid. And I wouldn't put anything past Marvel these days. Yeah, One More Day generated a lot of backlash, but anyone with a passing interest in Spiderman and half a brain would've been able to tell Marvel what a ridiculously horrible idea OMD was, even moreso than outright killing MJ would've been (though I think they tried that too before), so its not like Marvel should be suprised by all the hate after that. Not unless they're extremely stupid and delusional, more stupid and delusional than I had ever believed, and I have a pretty low opinion of Marvel after their last couple of events, but that's possible too. As long as it sells, anything goes. And yeah, might as well bring back Gwen Stacy, they've already thrown continuity and common sense out the window and danced over its bloody corpse. lol, deftinly take a look into Spectacular Spider-man the animated series. any spider-man will love the series. also I took a look at The Evil that Men Do. the story is actually surprisingly good with a bit of a dark undertone dealing with so really mature issues. I'm kinda surprise by Smith's work, he's a good writer depending on the material but I don't care for his most of the films. Terry Dodson does good art and Black Cat looks nice. And too bad the last Alpha Flight had such a... random death, killed off by the Collective or something? it was random, but honestly I can't many fans holding a uprising for it. sorry Canadian fans.... JB * Ever heard that there's a gap between a synopsis and execution? The example I use to illustrate is the TIE attack at Endor. You can tell someone about it, but when they see it they will still be impressed. The next Legacy arc is like that! there's a difference in format, but I understand your sentinment.if it's anything like Waid's work I'll be game. * First, it's not a crossover! Second, it was done as 6, 64-page comics. Therefore the 2 vols collect 3 issues each, coming to near 200 pages each. Third, Cooke's tale spans literally 15 years from the end of WW2 to the start of the 60s weaving in all the social history of the time. I was talking about Sinestro Wars, but I heard Cooke's story was really long. but are you calling the Forest Gump of the comic world. * I've felt Infinite Crisis gets a bad rep due to people focusing on the continuity effects rather than the story. The story works very well, as for continuity, where DC is concerned it's best to be flexible and not worry about it. Similarly Identity Crisis was quite well-done, it may be a plot from there is dealt with in an FC mini-series entitled Revelations. so it's the aftermath that causes a stir eh ? I might just play it safe and stick to GL stories. * Morrison is handling the Final Crisis with JG Jones on art, who did the covers for 52, but there are other series: - Final Crisis: Legion Of 3 Worlds - Johns & Perez - Final Crisis: Rage Of The Red Lanterns - Johns & Reis - Final Crisis: Rogues' Revenge - Johns & Kolins * This isn't all of them, but the ones I'll definitely be getting because each creative team is perfect. now the Red Lanterns sound interesting, I noticed the Corps series is interesting is it worth it as say a companion to the regular GL. * Those prices are in $ aren't they? you should say falling dollar, and I haven't even mentioned for paying for gas yet * If you get a PS2, get Final Fantasy XII - it will take over your life but you won't care! you sound just like my cousin, he loved the series. to be honest I want the ps2 to play Marvel Ultimate Alliance and Force Unleashed. might even think of playing the classics like Spider-man 2, Burnout, maybe some GTA. * I'll keep you appraised with non-spoiler comments of a cryptic nature! exnay onay Clint Eastwoodnay. so what's prediction for the Marvel movies ? -----signature----- " The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."-Darth Vader "Anakin wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."- George Lucas
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 5/15 3:02pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	MS86, I was talking about Sinestro Wars, but I heard Cooke's story was really long. but are you calling the Forest Gump of the comic world. * It's long, it's detailed, it's smart and a world away from the sentimental crap this Forrest Gump! so it's the aftermath that causes a stir eh ? I might just play it safe and stick to GL stories. * More like the continuity elements, if you care about that. now the Red Lanterns sound interesting, I noticed the Corps series is interesting is it worth it as say a companion to the regular GL. * GLC is definitely worth the money, once you've read both titles you'll notice the subtle linkages. Johns is planning to do similar on the Action Comics & Superman titles in partnership with James Robinson, with a Sinestro Corps story for Superman. you sound just like my cousin, he loved the series. to be honest I want the ps2 to play Marvel Ultimate Alliance and Force Unleashed. might even think of playing the classics like Spider-man 2, Burnout, maybe some GTA. * FFX and FFXII are the classics! If you're going for Burnout, get Burnout 3 - it was easily the best of the PS2 ones. JB -----signature----- "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived." Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
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MasterSkywalker86 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/15 3:24pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	any other PS2 recommendations ? I haven't read anything past Rebirth for GL but I'm caught up on the aftermath of the Sinestro Corps War. surprised at one of the members of GL killed Amon Sur when he was surrendering, but could have easily mistaken it as a threat especially of what he's capable of. Mongul has obtained a ring, and Scarecrow which I thought was cool was about to get one of the yellow rings instead the GL's stop him flat. the Guardians are becoming too beyond with their Alpha Lanterns...Manhunters and Green Lanterns do not mix. have yet to see the other colors in the mix. it's creepy that Sinestro himself is agreeing with them...that can't be good. as for Carol, I'm a little disappointed that she divorced her husband, since she's still in love with Hal(sounds too easy). but I haven't seen exactly how's it handled. I thought Hal was hitting it off pretty well with his new fling. as I told Nobody if you want to sober yourself of OMD woes watch Spectacular Spider-man, think of Ditko n Lee meet Bendis added in with some movie flavor, but I also took a look today at the Evil that Men Do. I'm easily surprised that Smith made the story work, think of a more adult story of JMS earlier days. The story has Black Cat and Spider-man teaming up to stop a heroin drug dealer who has a few surprises. as always Black Cat and Spider-man always are great together and you get to see a more grown up version of Felicia Hardy remiscensing of her past mistakes of letting Peter go. The story gets a bit personal since it deals abuse of many kinds, which is very disturbing. but I'm surprise Smith pull it off, I'm glad too since I don't care for the dick and fart jokes all the time. Terry Dodson who does terrific art for Spiderman does the pencils for the story. I might want to take a look at the Millar story just for the Dodson art. -----signature----- " The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."-Darth Vader "Anakin wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."- George Lucas
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 5/15 4:43pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Nobody145 posted: Whatever happened to the Dic/Barbara romance anyway? I remember Dick proposed to her before One Year Later, then after the time jump, she's just... gone from his life. Not sure if that was ever explained. There was a one-shot issue of Nightwing (or Birds of Prey, I forget which) that did a history of the Babs/Dick relationship. In a nutshell, it successfully explained that Dick Grayson is a total scuzzbag. The crowning glory moment of the comic is when Barbara confesses her feelings for Dick in college and the two have sex. pause And he then hands her an invitation to his wedding to Starfire. I am not kidding. Effectively, the comic has Dick Grayson chicken out in their engagement because he suddenly has a panic attack about not being the man he could be (in other words----once more, we're back to Dick Grayson being troubled by not being as good as Batman). This is why Dick is also not being Nightwing in New York City at the start of his AWFUL current series. Barbara, effectively, is waiting for him to change his mind and come back since she ends the story with "I'll be waiting." -----signature----- Check out Halt Evil Doer!: The RPG setting for Super Heroes! Halt Evil Doer PDF: http://tinyurl.com/555axt
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