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Nobody145 Registered: Feb '07	Date Posted: 5/15 8:59pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 5/15 9:02pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Nobody145
	On the one hand, I liked the Teen Titans cartoon, but on the other, I saw the Batman Animated Series years ago, so I like the idea of a Babs/Dick pairing, but considering most of Dick's weddings have ended badly (I think evil Raven crashed one), he's probably picked up the "doomed romances" of Batman. Actually, most of the Robins always have their romances crash (though usually they're a bit more stable than "rich boy with issues" Batman), except for Jason, as he's too vigilante to have any romance. Hm, on the matter of good PS2 games, I also recommend Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2. You'd think a combination of Final Fantasy characters and Disney movies would look ridiculous, but the end result urns out very, very nicely. I'd recommend Tales of the Abyss, but its probably out of print by now. Rogue Galaxy was also pretty good and a lot of fun. Oh yeah, the Lego Star Wars video games ars hilarious, and as a Star Wars fan, I highly recommend it. I still don't really see the point of Final Fantasy XII, that game drives me insane with the battle system, the story's boring, half of the main cast characters are bland and have little to nothing to do with the story (I'm looking at you three Vaan, Penelo and the eyecandy Viera). There's all the sidequests, but I was never really a sidequest person (not to the extent required for a game like this anyway). Then again, I'm just probably in the very small minority that doesn't give a damn about messed-up Ivalice and their oh-so-wonderful Judges. And I miss the airship. The PS2 has a very long lifetime (and still isn't quite dead yet), and we barely get two Final Fantasies on it and neither of them have any roaming airships. And at the rate Square Enix is going, we won't see FFXIII till 2010. Oh well, aside from my whining, FFXII is still a pretty good game, just not my taste. However, I totally agree that Final Fantasy X is an excellent game (if only the sequel had come close to it) and is highly recommended. Of course, you could always go buy FF8 and FF9, both of which are still very good games, and the PS2 is compatible with both, but... wait, never mind, then you'd have to go buy PS1 memory cards for them too, and that's mainly a waste of money by this point in time. Yeah, the Sinestro Corps War aftermath is an excellent arc, though they've kinda taken a break to redo the Origin story for Hal Jordan again. I don't mind too much, as the art is great, it incorporates all the new elements Johns has introduced since he started writing Green Lantern, and I probably wasn't born when it was originally printed. They've already started setting up the other six corps a little. The issue where that Lantern killed Amon Sur showed all the problems inherent with the new laws. Lethal force is sometimes justified, and maybe execution is too (what with Sinestro already supposed to be ond death row), but some Lanterns just aren't stable enough to handle that kind of power. Too bad the Guardians are too close-minded and predictable to realize all this, and the only two smarter Guardians have split off (or were kicked out, but same difference) to do their own thing, so that's maybe a good thing. And you just know the Alpha Corps are going to end badly. I sometimes wonder whether certain comments by some Green Lanterns mean they'll be poached by other Corps too. Still, just about anything Green Lantern related is excellent these days. There are a few mis-steps occasionally, but overall, excellent line to follow right now. -----signature----- Don't mind me, I'm nobody important.
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 5/15 11:10pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	So what was the rationale for the Green Lanterns able to use lethal force now? -----signature----- Check out Halt Evil Doer!: The RPG setting for Super Heroes! Halt Evil Doer PDF: http://tinyurl.com/555axt
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MasterSkywalker86 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/15 11:15pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Guardians deem lethal force necessary against Sinestro's group...I'll post more tomorrow. -----signature----- " The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."-Darth Vader "Anakin wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."- George Lucas
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Nobody145 Registered: Feb '07	Date Posted: 5/16 12:12am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Well, it ties into the whole Sinestro Corps War thing. Basically, Sinestro was winning, he had several thousand psychopaths all with power rings, each a match for a Green Lantern, and he had freed Parallax, Cyborg Superman and Superman-Prime, captured Ion, and as far as the Guardians thought, he would soon attack and destroy Oa (since they think they're the most important in the universe of course). During the pitched battles, Lanterns can only do so much to a Sinestro Corps member, knock them down, knock them unconscious, but because so many of them are psychopaths, its hard to take them out using non-lethal force, so dozens of Lanterns were being slaughtered. Even attempting to use lethal force in return caused one Lantern's ring to shut down entirely. To counter this, the Guardians enacted 10 new laws, the first of which is lethal force is authorized against Sinestro Corps members. This helped even the odds, as now Lanterns could permanently take out their opponents. Some of the newer Lanterns started killing Sinestro Corps members, but its war, so its understandable. All the earth ones held back, of course, and Kilowog is badass enough to defeat his opponent without killing him. Unfortunately, as it turns out, this was exactly what Sinestro was aiming for- he wasn't going for universal domination, he orchestrated the whole war to force the Guardians into a corner enough to permit lethal force, so that eventually, the Lantern Corps will be the most feared police force in the universe, and sadly, most of the Guardians of the Universe really are that predictable. Ganthet and Sayd, a female Guardian, protest, but they're kicked out by the rest. That's why that one Lantern in a rage killed Amon Sur, and the Guardians have set up their new hybrid Manhunter-Lantern Alpha Corps to oversee the new laws. Now, Sinestro Corps members are one thing, as they all have power rings, and at the end of the Sinestro Corps War, John Stewart makes a good point that its just like with normal earth police, but... then the second new law turns out to be lethal force permitted against all enemies of the Lanterns. And Sinestro, though imprisoned, is gloating while all this is going on. Yeah, its all going downhill very fast from here, though its not really the fault of any of the title characters, they're all just swept up in prophecy. And then there are the other color corps and the black one. Oh, the lead-up to Blackest Night is going to be fantastic. Wonder if they'll release any Absolute version of the current Green Lantern stuff someday. -----signature----- Don't mind me, I'm nobody important.
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 5/16 4:08am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	PS2 recs: Yep, both Lego Star Wars games are great. Devil May Cry 3 is quite smart, but hard on normal. Resident Evil 4 is worth a look. Viewtiful Joe is hard but clever with it. It never hit the PS2 in Europe but Tales of Symphonia may be available in the US, I've the Cube version and it's great. -----signature----- Howe: Why? Castle: So they can't walk away. So they can't profit from the pain they've caused..... Howe: And no second chances... Castle: I don't do redemption.
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Nobody145 Registered: Feb '07	Date Posted: 5/16 4:59am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Nope, the PS2 version of Tales of Symphonia never made it to American shores, it was Japanese only, just like so many other Tales games. Which is a real shame as there were some extras added to it. Then again, Symphonia's English debut might've been partially due to Nintendo, so Nintendo's not likely to help localize the PS2 version (the Gamecube lost out in that generation bad enough already). The Tales series has always been an excellent line of games, with the one major failing being that most games never make it out of Japan/Asia. Tales of the Abyss for the PS2 is recent, relatively, but it came out in 2006, so finding new copies might be hard (not sure about used copies). Though yeah, Tales of Symphonia was one of the Gamecube's gems. And thankfully, unlike certain other systems (glances at Sony's 40GB PS3 and the 360), the Wii has full backwards compatibility, so I still play Symphonia occasionally. -----signature----- Don't mind me, I'm nobody important.
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 5/16 8:33am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 5/16 8:34am (1 edits total) Edited By: Jedi Ben
	Pity. The other Tales games haven't made it to the UK, as far as I know. Still, on the plus side, there's a sequel to Tales of Symphonia being done for the Wii! Oh one other great RPG, albeit old-school, is Dragon Quest: Saga of the Cursed King or something like that. Combines a wonderfully realised 3D world with old-school gameplay. -----signature----- Howe: Why? Castle: So they can't walk away. So they can't profit from the pain they've caused..... Howe: And no second chances... Castle: I don't do redemption.
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RK_Striker_JK_5 Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 5/16 11:17am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	This is gonna contain my thoughts on Invincible spoilers, HTR of course. ChildOfWinds: So Cade is still with the pink lady??? What is it with him and the aliens??? I REALLY hope that this isn't going to be permanent. I must say that I wouldn't be very happy for Luke's only descendants to be pink aliens. And... what's the problem with that, Windy? If they love each other... why not? Nobody145: I just wish earth had a chance, but the only earth based anti-Transformer organization is Skywatch, and that's already been thoroughly compromised by Scorponok, which mean they have little to no chance against Transformers. One of the things I loved about the live-action movie was that the soldiers were able to do something other than stand around and die. and that they were competent, too, along with the government. A refreshing change! How do the writing styels contrast, as I think the books are written by different authors? Though unlike LotF, a three book project should be much easier to coordinate. They're actually hard on the Bajorans (the authors)? Well, the Bajorans are usually the victims, but there have been occasional hints of... unsavory acts done to survive. Like Kai Opaka and her son, or Kira Nerys' mother, and whatever else, the Bajorans sure came out of the Occupation very, very jaded. Buy them and weep that they're so much better than the SW EU we've been getting since 1999. On the one hand, I liked the Teen Titans cartoon, but on the other, I saw the Batman Animated Series years ago, so I like the idea of a Babs/Dick pairing, Actually, in the TAS... Babs dated Bruce for a while and they got semi-serious, even. Jedi_Ben: Hmm, have you been possessed by Darth Sidious COW? Because this is sounding very Imperial! In a galaxy of highly diverse life such as SW what matter the colour of a being? Yeah, I gotta agree, here. I don't see any problem with Cade hooking up with the Zeltron. Just when I think it isn't possible to like Dukat more than I do, I get proven wrong, for in this book he's well on his way to being the charismatic villain who could charm you into joining him that we know. I found Laren's final choice of interest as that is where it was going - that Bajorans would kill their own people and justify it later. What will be very interesting in Bk 3 is seeing just how much, or little, impact the resistance had. It was good to return to Darrah Mace and Valo II, I have my own suspicions about who killed Gar Osen too. In the end what the books really show is how to do a dark and complex tale that is nonetheless balanced with hope. Dude, if it wasn't Garak killing Gar, then I don't know who. And yeah, the Bajorans... enemies are enemies, no matter what. And yeah, it's weird how much hope there is here. Good to see Laren making the right choice, too. Now, off to Starfleet with her! MasterSkywalker86: Just finish the last of finals, I'm glad to be finish since in a couple of weeks I'm making one final move to my house. After living in a apartment with noisy tentants I really miss having a tranquil house with no one waking you up at 5 in the morning. Good luck with those, dude. And man, glad I only live with my mother on opposite sides of our house. much of the Bruce Timm animated universe is what got me into DC in the first place. The Justice League and JLU is what strike me as the best of the bunch, watching heroes other than Batman and Superman was a real treat to get introduce to Green Lantern and the Flash. Oh, yeah. It's so cool, how they don't focus on just Supes, Bats and WW. Seven Soldiers of Victory FTW! right, there is no break time for the big conflicts to be resolved or to rebuild. RAndom people on Planet R "We have rebuilt our community!" Warning sirens sound and turbolasers rain down* "Ah, shavit! Not again!" ol, Jacen = Slag. basically the FUBAR of the Transformers universe. speaking of which I caught up with Wreck Gar in Animated, what do you think of the episodes after Megatron's return ? and what happen to Black Arachnia ? Wreck-Gar was win. "I am Wreck-Gar. I dare to be stupid!" I wonder about our favorite femme fatale, too, but I'm having fun with the others too. I loved Sentinel freaking out when seeing Starscream. C-3PO could kick his butt T3 could kick his butt. Pre timeskip Sakura-a really weak character-could kick his butt. Wheelie could kick his butt. Depends. What's Force COmmander? a poorman's Empire at War...stragedy game. Ah, okay. Thanks, then. I remember getting Betrayal and looking forward to the 9 book parter hoping to be farcry from NJO, but the series was deceptive from the first book, it seem to retain some OT class with some PT themes which I felt would be a good meshing of the two and breathe new life to Star and Wars. It was a betrayal, though. A betrayal of everythins Star Wars. So, hey. Good name at least! Charlemagne19: There was a one-shot issue of Nightwing (or Birds of Prey, I forget which) that did a history of the Babs/Dick relationship. In a nutshell, it successfully explained that Dick Grayson is a total scuzzbag. The crowning glory moment of the comic is when Barbara confesses her feelings for Dick in college and the two have sex. pause And he then hands her an invitation to his wedding to Starfire. I am not kidding. Wow... SAnyone got the Infinity Gauntlet handy? I feel the need for some pummeling of 'Dick Grayson'. And what an apropos name, to boot. Now... Invincible! Spoilers ahoy! Well, they did it. JINO is dead. Jaina killed her twin brother. The authors forced one of the more disgusting acts I've seen in SW. It's sick. It's wrong. It CANNOT be justified. To turn JINO Dark and... yeah. Nelani gets no mention, which sucks. Yeah, not even a blurb, from what I know. Natasi 'Name of a Bond Girl and half the IQ!' Daala is Cief of State. Folks, Ajunta Pall could've made a better choice and he's a long-dead Sith Lord! How unutterably stupid is that??!???!?? Zekk, MIA. Yeah, because we need Alema 2.0. Yeah, shove him off for Jaina and Jag to have teh'wildsex and produce the Fel Dynasty. Pardon me while I throw up. Jag's appointed Grand Moff... because we CAN'T have unpredictability, nnnooooo. Sigh Hatred is a palpable battle aura around me at the moment, btw. Tenel Ka's alive, thank God. But... Allana's gone off to live with Han and Leia. Because no, we can't have a single happy family, can we? No, even they have to be torn apart. for the love of Primus, this sucks like Unicron. I'm glad I didn't buy this book. I'm glad I stopped at TUQ. I wish to holy hell I knew what the planning sessions for these books were and how the HELL any of this unmitigated slag can be justified. I'm ill from this and would wash my hands of the trilogy of Suck if I hadn't already. At the end of the YJK... off the top of my head, here's a list of next generation characters, the young ones, not just from the YJK... Jacen Solo Jaina Solo Tenel Ka Zekk Raynar Thul Lusa Lowbacca Em Teedee Raaba Sirra Anja Gallandro Valin Horn Jysella Horn Syal Antilles Myri Antilles Anakin Solo Tahiri Veila Uldir Lochett How many... how many of them were used to a tenth of their potential? How many? How many were used, abused and dropped into limbo without a second thought? Yeah... Here's the next generation, perfectly capable of carrying the books. The YJK is dead. Long live the Trilogy of Suck. -----signature----- E-married to the wonderful DarthIshtar. Now also her Padawan. Member of the Y.J.K. Revolution Staring into the Darkness http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/27537567/p1/?23
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 5/16 1:33pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	RK Dude, if it wasn't Garak killing Gar, then I don't know who. * How about Entec? And yeah, the Bajorans... enemies are enemies, no matter what. * Or who gets in the way. And yeah, it's weird how much hope there is here. Good to see Laren making the right choice, too. Now, off to Starfleet with her. * Quite, by the by, Bk 3 is out next week in the US. With a bit of luck I'll be able to order a copy sometime next week by the usual agents. -----signature----- Howe: Why? Castle: So they can't walk away. So they can't profit from the pain they've caused..... Howe: And no second chances... Castle: I don't do redemption.
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MasterSkywalker86 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/16 5:58pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	just finish Green Lantern: No Fear and suffice to say it was ok but I could live without it.. which kinda pisses me off since I bought this trade and Rebirth. Now while I thought Rebirth was okay for retcon and a headsup for people new to GL, it didn't get me excited as say Waid's FF run, The Order, Captain America, Legacy, Spider-Man the evil that Men Do. but I felt No Fear was going to do the trick....but sadly it didn't in fact it pretty much convince me to turn the other cheek. Perhaps I have a bias with SW and Marvel, perhaps I can't get into a cosmic spacefaring hero(though I like SW and Luke fine....), maybe the villans seem lame to me(I have to admit while Marvel has a bunch of them so does DC, I can't take Hector Hammond, or the shark seriously, reminds me of the Spot and M.O.D.O.K. or hell Sugar Man), despite all that I guess I'm simply not into GL's universe and might as well read into properties that I like. scratch GL series, back to 4 ongoing series. Legacy Captain America New Avengers and heck Spider-man despite the retarded retcon. not including minis or crossovers....looking forward to Man with No Name, Order vol 2, and Secret Invasion. plus while my comic venture has started since I dropped current SW books and currently building a small list of books of perfer SW books, like SOTE, SQ, SoTE, and I'm going to buy VOTF. I do miss Luke stories.. will post more in a few. -----signature----- " The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."-Darth Vader "Anakin wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."- George Lucas
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 5/16 6:09pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	RK Stryker posted: Well, they did it. JINO is dead. Jaina killed her twin brother. The authors forced one of the more disgusting acts I've seen in SW. It's sick. It's wrong. It CANNOT be justified. To turn JINO Dark and... yeah. She did what Jaina should have done. Jacen would have wanted it that way. -----signature----- Check out Halt Evil Doer!: The RPG setting for Super Heroes! Halt Evil Doer PDF: http://tinyurl.com/555axt
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 5/17 1:44am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Nobody145 posted: Though yeah, Tales of Symphonia was one of the Gamecube's gems. And thankfully, unlike certain other systems (glances at Sony's 40GB PS3 and the 360), the Wii has full backwards compatibility, so I still play Symphonia occasionally. I do have a BC PS3 but it was a close run acquisition! -----signature----- Howe: Why? Castle: So they can't walk away. So they can't profit from the pain they've caused..... Howe: And no second chances... Castle: I don't do redemption.
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 5/19 2:21pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	A reminder that EUC has a friendlier Invincible discussion thread where it can be discussed without spoiler highlighting, which is the rule here. Personally, I'm more intrigued by DC's Superman plans but that's me.... -----signature----- Howe: Why? Castle: So they can't walk away. So they can't profit from the pain they've caused..... Howe: And no second chances... Castle: I don't do redemption.
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MasterSkywalker86 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/19 4:30pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 5/19 5:02pm (1 edits total) Edited By: MasterSkywalker86
	Been kinda quiet over here....what's the deal ? Ben I thought you would be up in arms with my dislike of GL No Fear ? well then again, I think it's maybe the genre and type of superhero Hal is. I notice one big difference between the heroes of DC and Marvel, DC characters aren't as relateble as Marvel characters, there are very few character flaws and most of their struggles deal with external forces. Now as proven over the countless decades that has work well for DC and fans, and I'm not debating which one is better, they both are the top of the industry. but Marvel's characters also have been enjoyed by fans, to see their favorite average joe become heroic without being out of touch with their origins. Ben please tell me your thoughts on the new Invincible series of Iron Man, compare to the Knaufs work and what Warren Ellis establish ? does Fraction bring out sort of the stuff from the Order ? honestly to be truthful I guess I felt out of place with Green Lantern's story. while dealing with his origins it also deals with outer space elements that I thought would work well. but I just couldn't get into it, the story wasn't bad,and the art was impressive, but it's one of those stories like Extremis that I felt I could live without. I'm sure GL fans must love to see freshness in Hal's universe, Johns reintroduces us lame b-list baddies and turn them into real(as real as a big headed man and a mutated shark can be) frightening villains. It felt oddly similar to Brubaker's Cap in the sense that he flesh out individual story arcs while leaving the reoccurring main plot in the background but tied to the individual arcs, which works well, plus strong characterizations and a good cast. but as I said it didn't gel with me, the universe of GL is a bit too outlandish for me. perhaps that's why I enjoy Cap so well, don't get me wrong but it has some outlandish parts(cosmic cube, zola, etc) but its set in a mostly realistic tone without avoiding cosmic/space external forces all the time. plus i'm interested in the history of WWII, which adds a extra incentive to liking Cap. maybe if I had more issues to introduce me to GL, like with Steve I read the Ultimates I omnibus, the Heroes Return Cap #1, Civil War, and then the Captain America series, to get into the story and the character....oh well. perhaps I should reread it Rebirth and No Fear again..... looking forward to Waid's Cap when they rerelease the tpb this summer. I'm surprise no one has made any comments about the future release of Marvel movies.... as for Luke can anyone spoiled us (within rules of the forum) of Luke in Invincible ? Nobody Hm, on the matter of good PS2 games, I also recommend Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2. You'd think a combination of Final Fantasy characters and Disney movies would look ridiculous, but the end result urns out very, very nicely. I'd recommend Tales of the Abyss, but its probably out of print by now. Rogue Galaxy was also pretty good and a lot of fun. Oh yeah, the Lego Star Wars video games ars hilarious, and as a Star Wars fan, I highly recommend it. I was interested by the idea of disney and Square making a game, also added to that bonus is that the gameplay isn't the turn based combat that FF was known for. Of course, you could always go buy FF8 and FF9, both of which are still very good games, and the PS2 is compatible with both, but... wait, never mind, then you'd have to go buy PS1 memory cards for them too, and that's mainly a waste of money by this point in time. I played FF 9 and I luv it at the time(zidane rules), though i had only a little bit of an idea of what was going on...i think i was thirteen when i beat it. I remember I had both the 64 and ps1 and was very interested into both properties. the only thing that bugs me is when I buy an exclusive system I sort of miss out, if i side with sony's next gen console, then i miss out with nintendo games, i i side with wii then i miss out on good third party games(most of them have been lame i hear). honestly I think money will be the final factor. Yeah, the Sinestro Corps War aftermath is an excellent arc, though they've kinda taken a break to redo the Origin story for Hal Jordan again. I don't mind too much, as the art is great, it incorporates all the new elements Johns has introduced since he started writing Green Lantern, and I probably wasn't born when it was originally printed. well after reading No Fear I feel no interest in reading the rest of the series, but o well at least I gave it a shot. at least no one can say that I didn't give DC a chance. RK Good luck with those, dude. And man, glad I only live with my mother on opposite sides of our house. only 11 days left man, you know our culture and the media portray that after high school you must live on your own, but things aren't like the days when my brother graduated, a High School Diploma actually meant something..heck it was the associate degree back in the day. plus with the dollar falling, prices increasing, gas going way over board, it's just the more practical economical way to stay with your folks until you can support yourself. Oh, yeah. It's so cool, how they don't focus on just Supes, Bats and WW. Seven Soldiers of Victory FTW! yeah, DC animated was really good. and some of the Marvel stuff was good too, Spider-man and X-men. but sadly I can't get into DC as much anymore. but I have to tell you one spidey fan to another watch the new spectacular series of spiderman, it's handsdown the best animated series I have seen of the marvel cartoons. RAndom people on Planet R "We have rebuilt our community!" Warning sirens sound and turbolasers rain down* "Ah, shavit! Not again!" "quick hide under this rock." Wreck-Gar was win. "I am Wreck-Gar. I dare to be stupid!" I wonder about our favorite femme fatale, too, but I'm having fun with the others too. I loved Sentinel freaking out when seeing Starscream. okay we need to talk about this series a bit more, at first glance sort like the Spectacular Spider-man it looks like a child's cartoon. but after looking around you find some depth to the story, in Spider-man it had always been there, with Transformers it's only hinted at but opens up after the first season. especially with Megatron back in arms, but I like the reintroductions with of the Dinobots, WreckGar, and former beast war characters(Black Arachnia). also I enjoy the references of Transformers lore construction workers look like Spike and Sparkplug, the name of Sari's dog, the classic footage in episode 1, etc. but now we discover Sari might be something other than human(my guess she's sort of an organic cyborg designed by her "father"), constructicons are being introduced as well as Elite Guard(make Jazz a permanent member of Prime's team please). the series has it's kiddie image and is less mature than the new Spider-man series, and Beast Wars. but it's an okay series to watch, I hope they release another 3d transformers series, more gear to teens an young adults, think of the movie. did you see the new episode ? looks like Transformers 2 is going to give us more Robot time with the characters and flesh out their character developements. check the ign interview. C-3PO could kick his butt T3 could kick his butt. Pre timeskip Sakura-a really weak character-could kick his butt. Wheelie could kick his butt. burn!!! I remember getting Betrayal and looking forward to the 9 book parter hoping to be farcry from NJO, but the series was deceptive from the first book, it seem to retain some OT class with some PT themes which I felt would be a good meshing of the two and breathe new life to Star and Wars. It was a betrayal, though. A betrayal of everythins Star Wars. So, hey. Good name at least! it really was, a good opening and everything after except Inferno was sigh! -----signature----- " The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."-Darth Vader "Anakin wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."- George Lucas
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 5/20 11:06am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 5/20 12:27pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Jedi Ben
	Been kinda quiet over here....what's the deal ? Ben I thought you would be up in arms with my dislike of GL No Fear ? * It depends on where I evaluate your decision from, personally, you're missing one of the best series around by a lack of patience. well then again, I think it's maybe the genre and type of superhero Hal is. I notice one big difference between the heroes of DC and Marvel, DC characters aren't as relateble as Marvel characters, there are very few character flaws and most of their struggles deal with external forces. * The funny thing is, on this basis, you ought to like GL more as Jordan is a screw-up on many counts! Now as proven over the countless decades that has work well for DC and fans, and I'm not debating which one is better, they both are the top of the industry. but Marvel's characters also have been enjoyed by fans, to see their favorite average joe become heroic without being out of touch with their origins. Ben please tell me your thoughts on the new Invincible series of Iron Man, compare to the Knaufs work and what Warren Ellis establish ? * Well, there's only been one issue but I loved it. It is of a totally different nature to the Knaufs run, of which I cannot recommend 15-18 and 21-28 highly enough, but that is no bad thing. does Fraction bring out sort of the stuff from the Order ? * Pepper is there. As for The Order, this says everything about it: honestly to be truthful I guess I felt out of place with Green Lantern's story. while dealing with his origins it also deals with outer space elements that I thought would work well. but I just couldn't get into it, the story wasn't bad,and the art was impressive, but it's one of those stories like Extremis that I felt I could live without. * Live without Extremis? Are you serious? Extremis is the foundation for Stark's adventures recently. I'm sure GL fans must love to see freshness in Hal's universe, Johns reintroduces us lame b-list baddies and turn them into real(as real as a big headed man and a mutated shark can be) frightening villains. * Johns is known for reinvigorating Rogues Galleries. It felt oddly similar to Brubaker's Cap in the sense that he flesh out individual story arcs while leaving the reoccurring main plot in the background but tied to the individual arcs, which works well, plus strong characterizations and a good cast. but as I said it didn't gel with me, the universe of GL is a bit too outlandish for me. * Possibly, but here's where the viewpoint evalouation comes into play: As someone who knows where No Fear leads to and it is the first piece following Rebirth, I can easily say you're missing a great story. Yet, if judged on its own merits in isolation, No Fear is only good, it isn't great despite some Pacheco art. When I started collecting GL, I was coming off of Johns Flash run - the bulk of which I'd bought in TPB - so wasfamilar with his MO. I pretty much knew the early stories may not be great but that they'd lead to something bigger and so it proves. The Q for you is: Are you interested in finding out the identity of the Grandmaster of the Manhunters? perhaps that's why I enjoy Cap so well, don't get me wrong but it has some outlandish parts(cosmic cube, zola, etc) but its set in a mostly realistic tone without avoiding cosmic/space external forces all the time. * GL, under Johns, really goes for the cosmic stage very well, but also doesn't shirk from addressing issues of Hal's past like the destruction of Coast City and his turning against the Corps. If anything I still think you'd like what is going on underneath the bright surface that isn't to your liking. plus i'm interested in the history of WWII, which adds a extra incentive to liking Cap. * Brubaker's take on WW2 with Cap is far superior to Millar's for me, it is utterly excellent. maybe if I had more issues to introduce me to GL, like with Steve I read the Ultimates I omnibus, the Heroes Return Cap #1, Civil War, and then the Captain America series, to get into the story and the character....oh well. perhaps I should reread it Rebirth and No Fear again..... * Actually, I suggest picking up the TPB of Revenge Of The Green Lanterns due out in a couple of months - so you'll probably be able to afford it by then - it sets the stage for Sinestro Corps and is quite a bit better than No Fear. looking forward to Waid's Cap when they rerelease the tpb this summer. * I'll probably end up giving that a look too. I'm surprise no one has made any comments about the future release of Marvel movies.... * Plan sounds intriguing but can they pull it off? p.s. Gage interview on The Man With No Name: -----signature----- Howe: Why? Castle: So they can't walk away. So they can't profit from the pain they've caused..... Howe: And no second chances... Castle: I don't do redemption.
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