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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 8/14 3:21pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	COW, Lucius walked away rather slowly, I thought. And you could be right, I guess, but I would have liked a brief scene with Lucius and Bruce at the end, or a comment from Lucius after the thing exploded, maybe something like, "I never should have doubted you, Bruce," or something like that. He just could have spoken out-loud to himself. * I don't think that's really Nolan's style, he tends to prefer to be more suggestive than state things out-right. * Oh and MMO = Massive Multiplayer Online, I think - or something to that effect. JB -----signature----- "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived." Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 8/15 3:43pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Well, looks like Gage is only on for the first 6 issues of Man With No Name so I may have to reconsider it after that, pity - although the reason was due to the demands of the story, Gage feared he may not be able to keep up the quality. -----signature----- "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived." Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
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RK_Striker_JK_5 Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 8/15 4:37pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	ChildOfWinds: I just saw Dark Knight it was pretty good, as tense and emotional as No Country for Old Men. I didn't like it. Too violent and I didn't like the depressing ending where the hero is looked upon by everyone as a villain. And his girlfriend's dead; his Batman information destroyed; his operative left him. Nope! Not my kind of movie. Sounds too depressing for me, too. I know Batman can't exactly be all sunshine, but he's Batman, not the Punisher! Buck the cliche and have him get together with Rachel, not Fridge her! Luke walking on lava was cool. I think the bad taste that I have in my mouth about the JAT is knowing that Luke spends most of his time in a coma and everything goes on fine without him. Ah, they didn't go on fine without him, Windy. They kinda dragged to a halt and went semi-emo for a bit. I think most Jedi... or observant people... could tell that, through signs and clues from the recorder. You would think so, wouldn't you??? Errant bulge in a pocket, nervousness at being with a Sith Lord... mind reading powers!!!!! yeah, JINO should've been able to pick up on that. It IS ridiculous! I hope John Ostrander has gotten the message and won't be including any more PT Jedi. That just keeps diminishing Luke with every single PT Jedi that shows up. It'd be nice. I can't comment more due to the fact that I don't know what's going on at the moment in continuity, though. I guess we just got all mixed up here. Of course Wolf, Cade and the others should take care of Krayt and his Sith. But having the Jedi led by PT Jedi and a PT Jedi Council, and trained by PT Jedi means that there's no longer Luke's tradition of Jedi. And since most of his Jedi were killed at the beginning of Legacy, that means there's not Legacy left for Luke. I believe that's what I was basically trying to say. Ah, aha! Thanks, Windy. I see your point, now. Yeah, it's a shame Crunchy and tree lady have to be there. For the love of Primus! Read the NJO and some of the gritty things she had to do there and tell me that she needed to be trained by Mandalorians! Nah. We have to remember that the Mandalorians are uber combat gods that the pathetic Jedi could never hope to match up against! Jaina's just a spoiled wittle princess compared to them. And if you believe that, I have oceanfront property on Tatooine I'd like to sell you. 4. The OT: Not the first, not the favorite... but damn. For another time, perhaps... Please do go on! The OT is my favorite! Okay. For you, Windy. The OT was fun! It was epic, and tightly focused. The good guys won, and even in ESB, there was still a ray of light. The Falcon rocks. I love Luke. Vader... badass and tragic at the same time. The Battle of Endor is one of the top three space battles of all time. Luke's redemption of Anakin... "I've got to save you!" "You already have..." Did I mention fun? "Boring conversation anyway. LUKE, WE'VE GOT COMPANY!" And tell me Leia didn't kick butt and take names. "Into the garbage chute flyboys!" X-wings rock. I love that ship. Yoda, Ben... Next time, the YJK... maybe. All I did was say how it was part of saving my life. A small part... but a part nonetheless. I didn't go into how it may have been a young adult series, but was far better than it had any right to be. Thanks. It's still going good. I'm setting up a new inventory system now. Glad to hear that things are going well, Striker! Thanks. Getting ready for going back to school? Jedi Ben: * Rachel being dead wasn't a problem because she was annoyingly idealistic and whiny, what was someone like doing in Gotham anyway? It ain't for such people I take it that was in TDK? because she seemed fine in BB... and Gotham needs more idealism, anyway. Nobody145: On Caedus' "confession"... well, yeah, the implication was that Caedus didn't know he was being recorded, but then again, in that book, most Force-associated characters are weak morons at best, and the only way any Force user does something is by attaching themselves to the Mandalorians' glorious rise to power! Fortunately, Denning fixes most of those problems in the next book. Law of averages says he'd fix... never mind. It stretches credibility more than Plastic Man! Oh yeah, RK_Striker, while browsing Amazon the other day, I noticed that it looks like they're reprinting the MTMTE bios in a little while. Think I should order them while they're in print? Even the more recent IDW reprints of DW stuff already seems to be out of print in many places, but since the DW continuity is dead, I'm debating whether to spend the money or not. Yes! I used the MTMTE books extensively in my TF/NJO crossover. Some great images. Some... not so great, but it's a great insight and info series. And it gives some characters personality that might never get them. And yeah, if "The 13" Transformers series is a Transformers origin story, I don't think the curent IDW comics continuity has much room left for Primus or Unicron, what with the Dead Universe already looking to be the most mystical element. The DU has Galvatron from it, though... his Master soon behind? And yeah, Optimus is still the best Prime yet, probably, though I was kind of worried when he just let those Machination agents' cars just crash into his feet, but otherwise, he's still benevolent. He might've thought they'd survive. One consistent thing amongst TF continuities as that they don't know much about humans... Although I still don't like his condemnation of Omega Supreme, especially since, of course, Omega Supreme turned out to be right. Even the greatest of us are fallible, but you're right. Omega was in the right. Its just that we've had three Primes show up in the IDW continuity so far, Nova/Nemisis, Sentinel and the current Optimus (though they never said exactly how Primes were decided, its not like a Matrix is involved or anything), and two of them are... less than admirable, to say the least. Sentinel was an aristocratic jerk, IIRC. Heck, Rodimus Prime would probably be better than either of those two earlier Primes. He may whine, but at least he was never evil. Nods I'll give him that. And yeah, he did try his best... wow. And yeah, I've seen Animated Sentinel Prime, but the term Prime there has a different rank than in most Transformers continuity, so I don't mind him as a jerk. At least Ultra Magnus means well, though I question the competence of any system that rewards someone like Sentinel and has Optimus as a pariah. We don't know why Optimus resigned, though. Or was thrown out. And Ultra Magnus seemed to be coming around once exposed to him. Jazz was an okay 'Bot, which is good. "Traffic lights... solid." The storyline of the Beast Wars Ascending thing is... complicated and convoluted, to say the least. Essentially it came down to... Reads Thanks... I think I'll skip. -----signature----- E-married to the wonderful DarthIshtar. Now also her Padawan. Member of the Y.J.K. Revolution Staring into the Darkness http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/27537567/p1/?23
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Nobody145 Registered: Feb '07	Date Posted: 8/15 11:51pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	I don't agree with CoW's complaints about having a Jedi Council that's made up primarily of PT era Jedi (although there are only three Jedi Masters there), as I know DH probably can't touch too many OT era characters, due to no one has any idea how many more characters Del Rey will kill off in the next series, but neverm ind, its an old arguement, so not much point continuing it. And did you read the Galvatron spotlight, RK_Striker? Or maybe it was another comic, I'm not sure... but anyway, what I mean is that though they've had Transformers like Unicron and Cyclonus show up, they're just their own independent individuals, no relation to Megatron. Though we've had a lot of 'trons recently. There was Magmatron in Beast Wars, then Banzaitron with the 'dealer thing. Or was that whole comment about Galvatron and Unicron just made in jest? Sorry, I see the emoticon, just not quite sure exactly what you're joking about? Though speaking of that plotline, the Doubledealer Spotlight is coming out next week, so Revelations continue. Let's hope it was as good as the previous two. And I'll get right on to pre-ordering those new MTMTE reprints then. Better to buy them before I forget about again and have them go out of print. On the Caedus thing, I don't remember the scene too precisely, as ugh, reading any of those books once alredy gives me a headache, I don't know if I could stomach reading them twice, but I don't think Shevu actually lied about anything, but still, Caedus probably should have picked up on something. So on the one hand, Caedus was such a moron he never noticed. On the other hand, maybe Caedus did know, as by the next book, Shevu is under surveillance, and it was obvious he was Ben's friend, but then that still leaves Caedus' "confession" looking very stupid. Not that that was the most stupid thing in the series. The last three pages of the series are far, far worse, with the new Chief of State announced.... Though Jaina training with Mandalorians was almost as bad. I know some people don't like Denning, but he does write fine lightsaber duels (The Swarm War is probably the last time Luke was allowed to let loose, since they had to keep Luke from instantly solving the problem in LotF), but Denning's Mandalorians are far more... tolerable than Traviss'. Funny enough, I think Jaina sorta got the idea after seeing Jag take down Alema Rar (at long last) using some Mando equipment. Of course, Jag suceeded because he had planned and was smart, not just the actual equipment, but oh well. And back when Revelation came out, a frequently asked question was "when did Boba ever kill a Jedi?" since so far, Boba hasn't had any documented Jedi kills. But its not like continuity is going to stop writers. And oh well, I can see how people would get turned off by Dark Knight's dark-ish ending. What I don't get is how something hopeless like the current Battlestar Galactica keeps going when its week after week of even darker developments, and the characters are far, far less interesting or likable. Oh well, my head always worked differently from most people (and I'm usually at a lower and slower mental level), so that's probably why I don't see the appeal of some things. I don't know, with TDK, I just like the tragic angle, and the heroic characters. Though while Rachel was annoying, in some ways, it could be said Batman is even more idealistic than her. He is trying to save Gotham, whereas most people have already given up on the city altogether, and only a few brave souls like Batman or Gordon are keeping the city from collapsing into total anarchy sometimes. On the Animated Optimus front... Optimus mentions he still has the same rank as Sentinel, Prime-level, so however Optimus ended up as as a jumpgate technician, it must've been very unusual circumstances as he retained his rank. Although while on some levels I like Animated a lot, I just don't care for most of the Autobot characters. I don't like big and slow (Bulkhead), or fast and very annoying (Bumblebee), though Rachet and Jazz are great. I just wish the Autobots weren't so outclassed in that series, though given their original roles, I can understand why, but after several seasons, I wish it wasn't still so onesided. And then when they finally get a huge boost in strength... well, there goes Omega Supreme. Not to mention, what about all those Allspark fragments they used to jumpstart him? Jumping back to IDW Optimus, yeah, I guess even he makes mistakes, its just that his condemnation of Omega seemed so... self-righteous. Tactical mistakes, I don't mind, but when Omega was so obviously right about how big a threat Monstructor was (and then they lose Monstructor later, of course), and Optimus ignored him. I guess by that point, with how you had things like Thunderwing and Sixshot still around, and with no real way to counter them, another unbeatable super-powerful Transformers wasn't really needed I felt. Well, hopefully in another month or two, that plotlin finally be resolved, and we'll see how Optimus measures up. Though I do wonder if he'll be comatose after Revelation, or something else will leave Optimus mostly dead (given how the AHM series started). So many threats that could kill Optimus and the Autobots so quickly. I almost miss the old animated or even DW series. At least there they had a bit of a balance of power with multiple Autobot and Decepticon gestalt teams, Tyrpticon was matched by Metroplex, Scorponok by Fortress Maximus, etc. -----signature----- Don't mind me, I'm nobody important.
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Rouge77 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 8/16 1:53am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	ChildOfWinds posted: For example, already the new CoS has hinted that she wants the Jedi to be a thing of the past, instead of being grateful to them for helping to end the fighting and negotiating a settlement. It's not a satisfying ending. It isn't and it might be partly explained - but not defended, I think - if it is just a set-up for a new series, FotJ. Personally I would have preferred Denning to have wrapped up LotF instead of creating the basis for a new series, but if the rumours about FotJ are true, it got him a contract for three new books: Bills paid and food on the table. He's really become the dominating force in the main era novels. DN, LotF and perhaps FotJ are all his ideas. -----signature----- Recipient of the Confederation Ewok with "Rebel Yub"® Action!! Kill Ben Skywalker
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 8/16 11:06am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	I still can't quite get my head around a character called Banzaitron....I mean really....Banzaitron? -----signature----- "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived." Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
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Sinrebirth Title: SWC Galactic Senate Host Best GM - RPF Awards Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 8/16 11:37am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Rouge77 posted: ChildOfWinds posted: For example, already the new CoS has hinted that she wants the Jedi to be a thing of the past, instead of being grateful to them for helping to end the fighting and negotiating a settlement. It's not a satisfying ending. It isn't and it might be partly explained - but not defended, I think - if it is just a set-up for a new series, FotJ. Personally I would have preferred Denning to have wrapped up LotF instead of creating the basis for a new series, but if the rumours about FotJ are true, it got him a contract for three new books: Bills paid and food on the table. He's really become the dominating force in the main era novels. DN, LotF and perhaps FotJ are all his ideas. I'm going to emerge from lurking and respond to this; I think that the ending of LotF opened so many more avenues than, say, the ending of the NJO. We had a few subplots at Bimmiel, with Lord Nyax and Lomi Plo to work with, and that wasn't a grievous deal. The plot took a massive sidestep with the Killiks, and Denning set up the loose ends of DNT to make LotF - but even then, those loose ends didn't include Corellia, Bothawui or so forth - the Corellia plotline, as much as the Killik's inclusion, was almost entirely unforeseeable. After Invincible we have the Mandalorians, Daala and Zekk to be concerned about. Fury left us the One Sith and the Sphere to consider. Revelation threw us further issues with Daala and her secret stash of superweapons. The ending of LotF has a considerably better setup than the NJO and the DNT, Legacy aside. -----signature----- SWC Imperial Chancellor RPF Adopter of jawbox Sey's Sinre The First Canon Apologist The Missing Chapters of LotF: Invincible http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=28933751&brd=10477&start=29297240
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RK_Striker_JK_5 Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 8/16 5:56pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Jedi Ben posted: I still can't quite get my head around a character called Banzaitron....I mean really....Banzaitron? I'll address other points later... Ben, come on. It's Transformers! Megatron, Starscream, Metroplex, Bludgeon... they've all got wacky and weird names. Hell, that's half the fun! -----signature----- E-married to the wonderful DarthIshtar. Now also her Padawan. Member of the Y.J.K. Revolution Staring into the Darkness http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/27537567/p1/?23
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 8/17 2:39am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Oh I like the name Striker, I just find it insanely wacky and have to stop laughing as I see Arcee engaging Banzaitron as a serious enemy. -----signature----- "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived." Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
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ChildOfWinds Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 8/17 12:48pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 8/17 12:49pm (1 edits total) Edited By: ChildOfWinds
	Yay! I think we now have reached our first 1000th post here in EUC. The SOS tradition of longevity continues! Jedi Ben * I don't think that's really Nolan's style, he tends to prefer to be more suggestive than state things out-right. Well, couldn't there have been a smile on his face or something? To me, it just looked like Lucius was walking away for good. * Oh and MMO = Massive Multiplayer Online, Ah! Thanks! RK_Striker_JK_5 Sounds too depressing for me, too. I know Batman can't exactly be all sunshine, but he's Batman, not the Punisher! Buck the cliche and have him get together with Rachel, not Fridge her! I agree. I hate all of these sad, depressing endings in books and movies lately! Ah, they didn't go on fine without him, Windy. They kinda dragged to a halt and went semi-emo for a bit. For about a minute. Then they settled down and figured out how to take out Exar Kun. Errant bulge in a pocket, nervousness at being with a Sith Lord... mind reading powers!!!!! yeah, JINO should've been able to pick up on that. LOL! Yes, you would think so! Nah. We have to remember that the Mandalorians are uber combat gods that the pathetic Jedi could never hope to match up against! Jaina's just a spoiled wittle princess compared to them. Oh, yeah! I don't know WHY I keep forgeting all that! And if you believe that, I have oceanfront property on Tatooine I'd like to sell you. LOL! The OT was fun! It was epic, and tightly focused. The good guys won, and even in ESB, there was still a ray of light. The Falcon rocks. I love Luke. Vader... badass and tragic at the same time. The Battle of Endor is one of the top three space battles of all time. Luke's redemption of Anakin... Did I mention fun? "Boring conversation anyway. LUKE, WE'VE GOT COMPANY!" And tell me Leia didn't kick butt and take names. "Into the garbage chute flyboys!" X-wings rock. I love that ship. Yoda, Ben... Thanks! I know! I LOVED the OT, but most especially A New Hope. It was almost a perfect film. I still think it's terrible that it didn't win best picture. It was SO creative! How could it NOT have won Best Picture???!!! Next time, the YJK... maybe. Sounds good, Striker. I'm looking forward to it! Thanks. It's still going good. I'm setting up a new inventory system now. Good for you! Nobody145 :I don't agree with CoW's complaints about having a Jedi Council that's made up primarily of PT era Jedi (although there are only three Jedi Masters there), as I know DH probably can't touch too many OT era characters, due to no one has any idea how many more characters Del Rey will kill off in the next series But N, why couldn't they MAKE UP Jedi who were trained by Luke or one of his Jedi??? Sheesh! Even Wolf could have been that Jedi. It didn't necessarily need to be a "Big Name" Jedi. By the time of Legacy, I'm sure there were at least 1,000 Jedi Knights. It could have been any one of the Jedi who was taught in the Luke Tradition, NOT in the PT Tradition. So, I don't think you can say that DH couldn't touch too many OT characters. I'm not even asking that they be characters we know or their offspring. Just that they be Jedi taught in the tradition of Luke's Order. I don't see how that can possibly be asking for too much. Shevu is under surveillance, and it was obvious he was Ben's friend, I don't remember exactly why Shevu was under surveillance either. Was it maybe just because they knew he was Ben's friend and they wanted to get to Ben? By watching Shevu they figured they could find Ben? The last three pages of the series are far, far worse, with the new Chief of State announced.... Though Jaina training with Mandalorians was almost as bad. Both were terrible! I know some people don't like Denning, but he does write fine lightsaber duels I agree that Denning's Mandalorians are "more tolerable" than Traviss'. Denning might write good lightsaber duels, but he writes LOUSY Luke characterizations. Luke is always dark in some way in Denning's books. I also just don't like Denning's dark ideas. It was Denning who came up with the Dark nest Killiks and the Joiners. It was Denning who came up with the idea to turn Jacen into a SIth and kill him off. It was Denning who killed off Anakin. It was Denning who made Daala chief of state. The list goes on and on... What I don't get is how something hopeless like the current Battlestar Galactica keeps going when its week after week of even darker developments, and the characters are far, far less interesting or likable. I don't watch Battlestar Galactica either! (and I'm usually at a lower and slower mental level), I definitely disagree about that, N! I also agree that Batman is more idealistic than Rachel. Rouge77 :It isn't and it might be partly explained - but not defended, I think - if it is just a set-up for a new series, FotJ. I don't like it when the last book in a NINE book series is just a set-up for another series. Invincible should have ended the LotF series, not worried about starting up something new. Invincible seemed so rushed and unfinished. It was terribly depressing and not at all satisfying! And I'm really not happy about Denning getting three more books. I think he's put enough of a "stamp" on the SW universe and it's time we get someone new and someone less dark and pessimistic to write SW books. I really don't like the way Denning writes Luke AT ALL! Sinrebirth : I think that the ending of LotF opened so many more avenues than, say, the ending of the NJO. But I don't think that was the job of LotF or of Invincible. Invincible's job was to complete the LotF series, to tie up all the loose ends and answer any left-over questions. Its job wasn't to be a set-up for yet another series. I want a satisfying and complete conclusion to a series of nine books in which I've invested a lot of time. And those who didn't choose to use the library also invested a lot of cash in this series. The very least that they should have gotten was a complete ending to it, with logical explanations for such things as why Daala would have been chosen CoS. Let the next book set up a new problem. After Invincible we have the Mandalorians, Daala and Zekk to be concerned about. Fury left us the One Sith and the Sphere to consider. Revelation threw us further issues with Daala and her secret stash of superweapons. The ending of LotF has a considerably better setup than the NJO and the DNT, Legacy aside. So what??? LotF should have been ABOUT Legacy of the Force. It shouldn't be about an author setting up his next series for himself. What IS the Legacy of the Force anyway? Does anyone even know? Even Sue Rostoni wouldn't tell anyone. Do those who wrote and published this series even know? I think LotF was a terrible series with a terrible "ending".
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Rouge77 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 8/18 10:09am Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 8/18 10:09am (1 edits total) Edited By: Rouge77
	ChildOfWinds posted: I don't like it when the last book in a NINE book series is just a set-up for another series. Invincible should have ended the LotF series, not worried about starting up something new. Invincible seemed so rushed and unfinished. It was terribly depressing and not at all satisfying! I agree, but all series tend to set-up possible new stories. Sometimes they are just mostly or totally forgotten in the next series, like happened to VotF and TUF set-ups. DN and LotF undid as much they could from the TUF set-up and VP forgot VotF (and YJK, if one wishes to count it too) set-ups totally. The problem with LotF to me wasn't the set-up of possible new stories, but the hasty and easiest possible ending. LotF in the end didn't take any hard choices, as frankly killing Mara was the easiest possible choice after they had decided to kill someone important in the middle of the series, and killing Jacen meant that they didn't basically have to care at all about what happened in LotF in the future if they so wished. Redeemed, or unredeemed and free, Jacen would have instead been a rather necessarily important figure in future stories, and through him what happened in LotF. Also, by making him a Sith but not actually making him achieve anything - like truly controlling the galaxy for a significant amount of time, starting his own Sith Order - they made another easy choice. They could have, for good or ill, made something epic out of LotF. Instead they got scared and made something that except for the death of Mara and Jacen was similar to usual Star Trek episode: Nothing in the fictional universe was changed by it; it didn't leave any lasting effects. Congratulations for the 1000th posts for this version of SOS! -----signature----- Recipient of the Confederation Ewok with "Rebel Yub"® Action!! Kill Ben Skywalker
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 8/18 3:01pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0 - Date Edited: 8/18 3:07pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Jedi Ben
	Doubled...for strange reason. -----signature----- "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived." Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 8/18 3:06pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	I could have grabbed the 1000th post any time on Sunday, but I've done it before and it loses the sparkle after a few times! Oh, on a seperate note, some early info for Feist's next series: Rides a Dread Legion (The Demonwar Saga) Synopsis The first book in a brand new 2 book series by the master of epic fantasy, Raymond E. Feist. Ten years after the cataclysmic events of Wrath of a Mad God took place, Midkemia now faces a new danger thought buried in myth and antiquity. A lost race of Great Goblins, or 'Orcs', have found Midkemia. On their current home world, the orcs are hard pressed by a ravaging demon horde, and what was once a huge empire has been reduced to a handful of survivors. The cornerstone of the orc's lore is the tale of their lost homeworld, the 'Bridge World', a place lost in mythology. Now they are convinced that Midkemia is that place, and they are coming to reclaim it. But while the orcs invasion seems at first to be yet another Tsurani menance, Pug and the Conclave come to understand that it's the demon horde behind the orcs that is the true danger. -------------------------------- I suspect this'll be good, probably high action in the style of the last book - Mad God's Wrath - with a fast moving plot as Feist only has 2 books to cover it all. Of couse once this done, the stage'll be set for the end of the Riftwar series - Chaoswar. What I like though is that there is a clear sense of design and purpose here, I had once suspected Feist of spinning this out without a map but that ain't the case. -----signature----- "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived." Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
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Rouge77 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 8/18 3:18pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	It seems that Feist has spent time playing the Warcraft games... -----signature----- Recipient of the Confederation Ewok with "Rebel Yub"® Action!! Kill Ben Skywalker
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 8/18 8:26pm Subject: RE: SOS - Luke Skywalker - Version 3.0
	Rouge77 posted: It seems that Feist has spent time playing the Warcraft games... Agreed. Hey folks, for those who wanted to know when the PDF of my latest work was to be available, Halt Evil Doer manuscript is now at RPGNow! I've been run especially ragged trying to get everything up and ready for its release but I'm glad to see that it's finally up. You can view a preview at the site before actually purchasing it too for those who want a looksie. If anyone wants to drop their opinion towards me on it, I'd love to hear it. Please say if you've picked up a copy. http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=736&products_id=57377&filters=0_0_0&manufacturers_id=736 -----signature----- Check out Halt Evil Doer!: The RPG setting for Super Heroes! Halt Evil Doer PDF: http://tinyurl.com/555axt
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