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jhc36
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2/12 3:30pm
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RE: Yuuzhan'tar: The Yuuzhan Vong Homeworld
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alright. i asked the initial question over at njoe.com. it's basically a njo and after exclusive site. they are pretty big fans of the yuuzhan vong for the most part as well. anyways... i got a response from one of their main guys mrnomanor he goes by nonetheless. (he's on here as well somewhere) he says that somewhere in the Unifying Force it says that the Yuuzhan Vong live about 3 times the length of humans... meaning that they are much much older than what i guessed. which means that 'ol czulkang could conceivably be pushing close to 1000 years old. yun yammka bless those implants.  
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kecen
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Date Posted:
2/12 5:46pm
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RE: Yuuzhan'tar: The Yuuzhan Vong Homeworld
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Udding, Star Wars aliens live very, very long. Except for Devlikks and Squibs.
Czulkang Lah must have tons of children, eh? I hope the age gap between Tsavong Lah and Seef isn't THAT big. I wonder how long they retain their youth. I imagine the sloping forehead gets longer with age, like a river dolphin beak (again with the animal imagery).
I have a character who expects to die at 35 because warrior life expectancy is asbysmal on the front lines (or the sidelines). They don't have taboos against stacking women in bodybags, do they? I imagine it's because of a lack of sexual dimorphism. There I go again. But pigeons all look pretty much alike, and they have equality unheard of in many humans.
I seem to like the Yuuzhan Vong as an idea, but the authors can't pull the act together and produce something consistent. For example, in Conquest, Mezhan Kwaad uses the word "forgive" and earlier on, Sinan Mat says he doesn't know what that word means. Then there's the attendants in veils in Agents of Chaos and Nas Choka talking about how live birth is gross (maybe they pull out the fetus prematurely in some domains...).
Wait I do have something new; the idea of the Yuuzhan Vong being stripped of the Force reminds me of the Golden Compass, where children were stripped of their souls (animal companions called Daemons). Seperating a child from a daemon produced a massive amount of energy. I wonder if the Yuuzhan Vong had anything like an alethiometer or the lens that saw Dust...maybe like the lambent (Dust being His Dark Material's version of the Force).
However, if a child was gradually seperated from a daemon, and the daemon came back, the daemon could travel away from its host child farther than normal. I smell a similiar plot idea...
Perhaps a shaper decided to tamper with the genetic sequence unique to Yuuzhan Vong. Maybe that's where Vongerella came from (echoes of the Green Elixir and Elphaba from Wicked).
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Blue_but_beautiful
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Now I was trying to remember where i'd read that the other day jhc36, good job on finding out.
I am a bit of a lurker over at the community you mentioned, I might have to de-lurk one day
Looks like a pretty good place for YV discussion in general.
Not quite Yuuzhan'tar though
I'm also familiar with mrnomanor, though I believe I spoke to him under an old user name of which i've completely forgotten (we are talking several years ago)
3 times the lifespan though, I second blessing those implants! That's quite a lifespan indeed, and put's it into perspective when you are considering the lifespan of someone as canny as Czulkang Lah, compared to your average warrior. In particular, those who died during the war with the 'known galaxy' would have probably died extremely young, which shows the true scope of Shimrra's predicament when he passed that order that all warriors needed to replenish their numbers and quickly.
However, I still think he was kind of shooting himself in the foot there - heavily pregnant warriors are gonna find it difficult to be as outwardly mobile as those who are not.
I still stand by the theory that they were live-bearers. I always took the words Nas Choka said about the whole birth issue, to mean that only the lowliest of their caste-women gave birth. Everyone having had to have started somewhere, would have been of a lower rank at some point, and when they ascended to higher ranks, it would put their domain, or immediate family in good stead with others initially. All this with the exceptions of being ordered, or required by protocol or ritual, to do so othwerwise.
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I would pull the misogynist switch to the "motherhood is sacred" story but...
This is all to make sure my OC's story fits into the continuity. I hate the "they're at home, taking care of the kids" excuse for certain alien species' lack of female characters when there's no other evidence. I don't want to accept the "different but equal" explanation for the Yuuzhan Vong because they're not like human fascist regimes that prevented women from working (and they're not human in the first place, not matter what the novels say about the appearance). Gah I base everything I write about them on the assumption the males and females are identical XP
Gah, I updated my fic (points to signature). Yun-Yammka is twitching.
I suspect Nei Rin had some part in the way Cade Skywalker turned out. Maybe Kol hired her to make sure he was born with a high midi-chlorian count?
(because I suspect the Jeedai are building a dynasty).
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I wouldn't say they all look the same, they are never sketched in offical pics as looking the same - so I kind of took it as a given.
I don't think the female warriors were the "stay at home and look after the kids" types either, much in the same way the mandolorian's aren't. But the fact remains that fighting with a rather large bump (plus all the extra weight it holds)attached to you, is restricting in terms of movement, speed, effort needed to execute effective strikes and all that. In the later months this would certainly become an issue.
Oh yeah...and I did some more Yuuzhan Vong fan art - http://blue-but-beautiful.deviantart.com/art/Elan-and-Vergere-77746094
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Blue_but_beautiful posted:
I wouldn't say they all look the same, they are never sketched in offical pics as looking the same - so I kind of took it as a given.
I don't think the female warriors were the "stay at home and look after the kids" types either, much in the same way the mandolorian's aren't. But the fact remains that fighting with a rather large bump (plus all the extra weight it holds)attached to you, is restricting in terms of movement, speed, effort needed to execute effective strikes and all that. In the later months this would certainly become an issue.
Oh yeah...and I did some more Yuuzhan Vong fan art - http://blue-but-beautiful.deviantart.com/art/Elan-and-Vergere-77746094
Ironic, eh? It's the bump that I have issues with in the first place...
I like to think the Yuuzhan Vong like salmon because of their reproductive habits...make the big heroic effort to swim upstream, external fertilisation, die and get eaten by children. Yep. I wonder if Domain Lah has the salmon (or salmon analog species) as their mascot.
BTW Penny Arcade makes a Yuuzhan Vong reference in today's installment. Vongchild told
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Blue_but_beautiful posted:
I wouldn't say they all look the same, they are never sketched in offical pics as looking the same - so I kind of took it as a given.
I don't think the female warriors were the "stay at home and look after the kids" types either, much in the same way the mandolorian's aren't. But the fact remains that fighting with a rather large bump (plus all the extra weight it holds)attached to you, is restricting in terms of movement, speed, effort needed to execute effective strikes and all that. In the later months this would certainly become an issue.
Oh yeah...and I did some more Yuuzhan Vong fan art - http://blue-but-beautiful.deviantart.com/art/Elan-and-Vergere-77746094
Ironic, eh? It's the bump that I have issues with in the first place...make it so that Yuuzhan Vong don't get it in the first place, eliminate any excuses against female warriors in the novels (Kadlah Cha was a last minute add-on ; it says she's a male Yuuzhan Vong in the dramatis personae XP Seeeeee the lack of excuses)
I like to think the Yuuzhan Vong like salmon because of their reproductive habits...make the big heroic effort to swim upstream, external fertilisation, die and get eaten by children. Yep. I would if Domain Lah has the salmon (or salmon analog species) as their mascot.
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Kecen posted:
BTW Penny Arcade makes a Yuuzhan Vong reference in today's installment. Vongchild told
What unholy abomination is 'penny arcade' my tizowyrm does not translate this 
And good point about Kadlah Cha lol, stranger things have happened in those dramatis personae, like issuing the mahoosive spoiler of Harrar not actually being dead!
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 all this talk of how yuuzhan vong mate. hahaha... love it. although personally... i figured they *ahem* got it on like typical humanoids... they just were into a little more heinous bdsm.
wonder if that's over the line for these forums? hmm... 
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all this talk of how yuuzhan vong mate. hahaha... love it. although personally... i figured they *ahem* got it on like typical humanoids... they just were into a little more heinous bdsm.
wonder if that's over the line for these forums? hmm...
There was a thread involving Luke, Mara, the force and the Expanded Universe 
They even discussed certain dominance rituals done by the likes of Shedao Shai. I think they like salt pools and sensory enhancement via grotto.
The idea of Yuuzhan Vong love poetry intrigues me. I wonder if they had magazines, or they were like Communist Russia and repressed secular artists...
I wonder if the war-hardened commanders were the most likely to write reams of bad poetry. Tahi wrote a good poem from Vua Rapuung's perspective.
"Alas no, for I am the woebegotten daughter of the Yammosk-Mother of Scapes, one of the world of invasive collection & genetic selection. I cannot accept this piece of your skin, fed through a tube & flawed in the eyes of the one who commands me. But know if the time comes I should take up her mantle, we will surely settle our passion over a cup of brine..."
If anyone is interested, there's a series from the '80's called Calabash Brothers. The villianess, a snake lady (naga!) has a coral throne. Bits and pieces of Yuuzhan Vong-esque imagery here and there. Season one is one Youtube, but here is a bit of season two:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/fXBI-57dm18/
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Hah, I remember that thread too, and yep, I'd have said they did it like most humanoids, with the obvious bdsm extras, I can't see why we can't say that - I suppose as long as we don't go into the obvious details
At least the ones i've included in some of my fics
I find it strange that, although the authors said that the whole getting off on pain thing was only meant - originally at least- to be a domain Shai trait, that neither Ona Shai nor Sakanga Shai seemed to display that trait half as much as Shedao shai. (Failure or not, I still think he's hot...and that was not meant to rhyme  )
And Kecen...did you say brine? *offers you some mint leaves*
In other Yuuzhie related news, I have taken the initial casts for my shaper costume, so I may have some pics to post soon if anyone is interested. 
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Blue_but_beautiful posted:
Hah, I remember that thread too, and yep, I'd have said they did it like most humanoids, with the obvious bdsm extras, I can't see why we can't say that - I suppose as long as we don't go into the obvious details
At least the ones i've included in some of my fics
I find it strange that, although the authors said that the whole getting off on pain thing was only meant - originally at least- to be a domain Shai trait, that neither Ona Shai nor Sakanga Shai seemed to display that trait half as much as Shedao shai. (Failure or not, I still think he's hot...and that was not meant to rhyme )
And Kecen...did you say brine? *offers you some mint leaves*
In other Yuuzhie related news, I have taken the initial casts for my shaper costume, so I may have some pics to post soon if anyone is interested.
Shedao Shai is so hot that if he were in an anime, a woman would voice him. Dolphins like the smell o' brine. Nom Anor wants a new costume.
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here's a quick question.
do any of you know if hasbro has any plans to create a yuuzhan vong figure? there have been dozens of eu people that have been created... with more in the works this year (cade skywalker, darth krayt, nihl, etc...) there's a darth bane... mandalore the indomitable... you'd think that a race that spanned over 20 books over the course of a few years and killed 3 trillion people in the sw galaxy... that they'd throw them a bone. ...just my rant. 
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jhc36 posted:
here's a quick question.
do any of you know if hasbro has any plans to create a yuuzhan vong figure? there have been dozens of eu people that have been created... with more in the works this year (cade skywalker, darth krayt, nihl, etc...) there's a darth bane... mandalore the indomitable... you'd think that a race that spanned over 20 books over the course of a few years and killed 3 trillion people in the sw galaxy... that they'd throw them a bone. ...just my rant.
There were rumours about it a couple of years ago I recall, but nothing was done then, so far all I have seen of the Yuuzhies - in terms of figures- has been custom made. However! I have noticed that on the line up for figures to be released in 2008, they have included some of the main characters appearing in the Legacy comics so far. Hasbro seem to be going more and more obscure with their characters, especially after releasing one or two of the main ones from a series, and rumours of Yuuzhan Vong figures have begun to surface again.
A friend of mine who attended a recent toy-fair said that there were quite a few mentions of such an event (especially as they are now releasing a Ganner figure too...what's Ganner without hundreds of Yuuzhan Vong warriors trying to cut him down? ) and that the release of some standard sized Yuuzhan Vong characters would be on the cards.
Still just rumours sadly, but we can hope 
I completely agree though, HOW many books did the Yuuzhan Vong appear in? And there is a fan base out there *points to the organically lit neon sign above the entrance* HINT HINT! Seems crazy to keep churning out "yet another Luke Skywalker" when you could be coming up with new figures like the mighty Tsavong Lah, for instance
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well that sounds like promising news... a ganner figure. yeah it's kinda hard to create a ganner figure and no nom anor or tsavong lah show up.
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