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MotionWright Registered: Mar '07	Date Posted: 7/4/07 12:15pm Subject: About Fathers -- ESB vignettes - Vader, Luke, Leia, Mara, Boba Fett - updated 8/11 - Date Edited: 8/22/07 9:10am (5 edits total) Edited By: MotionWright
	About Fathers Timeframe: during ESB Genre: reflection, angst Summary: A series of vignettes from the points of view of the sons and daughters of Star Wars. Features Vader, Luke, Leia, Boba Fett, and Mara Jade. Disclaimer: I don't own the Star Wars universe (obviously). Part One Darth Vader I never had a father. I am not saying this because he was a slave, a drunkard, a smuggler, a Jedi, or someone to be equally ashamed of. The children I played with while growing up on that detestable planet used to laugh at me, calling me the boy with no father. I was five when I asked my mother the question. "Mom, who was my father?" "No one, Ani," she said. "You're a miracle I cannot explain. There was no father." Truth, the Force whispered in my ear. It was with me already, before I even knew what it was. What still perplexes me is why I did not look like a clone of my mother. If I had only her genes in me, my physical appearance should have been a replica of hers. Yet I looked nothing like her, with hair the colour of the sand and eyes like the midday sky. These physical characteristics must have been a gift from the Force which conceived me. This gift was stolen from me, but not before I passed it on to my son. Luke. His name awoke something in me that had been dormant since her death: hope. When I learned of his existence, I realised I am not alone in the Galaxy. I have a son, and he is my hope for a better future, the future his mother denied me. But what would I know about being a father, I who never had one? And the two substitutes I had were far from worthy role models. One led me to damnation; the other left me to a fiery death. Both lost my loyalty. I know better than to repeat their mistakes. I once told Obi-Wan he was the closest thing I had to a father. That was a lie; I think he knew it even then. He certainly understood later ... Actions speak louder than words, and mine proved how untrue my words had been. As he left me to be consumed by lava, Obi-Wan called me his brother. I never had a brother, and if this is what brothers do, I am grateful for that. But what could Obi-Wan know about family? He spent his childhood in the Jedi Temple, brainwashed to blindly follow the Code since the crèche. At least I knew my mother. The Jedi were his family - and mine, he wanted me to believe. It was another lie to keep me in their traitorous Order. The Jedi kept me away from my mother, took my wife from me, and then dared to speak of family? At least, unlike the Jedi hypocrites, I knew enough about family that when the time came to choose between my father and my brother, I made the right choice. Yes, it was the right choice at the time. But time passes and circumstances change. My two Masters betrayed me, and it is only appropriate that I should betray them in turn. Killing Obi-Wan was satisfying. Killing the other will be even more satisfying. And long overdue. But I need Luke's help. Because of the injuries Obi-Wan inflicted on me, I am not powerful enough to succeed alone. The smallest amount of Force lightning is deadly to me in this suit. When we meet on Bespin, I will tell Luke the truth Obi-Wan kept from him. I will make him understand his importance. I have learned the lesson: surrogate family betrays. True family is held together by the ties of blood. My mother was my only such family, and she never betrayed me. Because the bond of blood is the only one that cannot be broken. All the rest - friendship, duty, love - is transient and prone to shifting without a moment's notice, at the whim of circumstances or of our own will. I know it will not be so between Luke and I, because there is a bond between us that I had with neither of my father figures. Blood is the chain that binds my son's destiny to me. Luke will know this to be true. I am Darth Vader, and I have no father. I am a father. TBC Feedback is always appreciated. -----signature----- About Fathers: http://boards.theforce.net/f/b1/27051840
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G__Anakin Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 7/4/07 12:42pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB): vignettes from the POV of Vader, Luke, Leia, Boba Fett, Mara Jade
	Looks cool! Can you please PM me with Updates? -----signature----- Knighted by Courtney_Solo - - - My fanfic - - - Jedi Sith - http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=26751105&brd=10476&start=26759554
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ratna Registered: Mar '07	Date Posted: 7/4/07 12:54pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB): vignettes from the POV of Vader, Luke, Leia, Boba Fett, Mara Jade
	Ooooooooooh, very interesting and complex! I like! You have crafted a very powerful theme of the INCONSTANCY of everything except blood relation, and destiny..... the two being closely twined. Is this theme an artifact of the Dark Side which now rules Vader? I can't wait to see how you develop this in your vignettes of the other characters! ... hair the colour of the sand and eyes like the midday sky. ... a gift from the Force which conceived me. I love that I have a son, and he is my hope for a better future, the future his mother denied me. the future his mother denied me. Interesting thought.... will you be elaborating it further? Best line: I am Darth Vader, and I have no father. I am a father. Great -- and supremely appropriate -- first vig for your series! -----signature----- Ou n'a tu pas tellement aime quelqu'un que tu avais peur de l'aimer au peur des souvenirs?
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KELIA Title: Moderator: Fan Fiction Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 7/4/07 1:35pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB): vignettes from the POV of Vader, Luke, Leia, Boba Fett, Mara Jade
	Ooooohhh that was very chilling. You captured Vader/Anakin's character so well. I especially liked his relfections of Obi-Wan as a father and brother. Looking forward to more -----signature----- "Do or do not, there is no try." Master Yoda A Light In The Darkness: http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/28150602/p1/?8 Undue Circumstances: http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/28530583/p1/?10
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darth_treyvah Registered: Dec '05	Date Posted: 7/4/07 4:44pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB): vignettes from the POV of Vader, Luke, Leia, Boba Fett, Mara Jade
	That was awesome. It was a very well-written perspective from Darth Vader's point of view. And you can definitely see his logic here. Even though he is twisted by the Dark Side and you know parts of his mind are skewed, you also identify with him as a reader. I mean, I'm sure the same could be said about Obi-Wan or any other character. But this was really marvelous. Thank you for writing it.
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BrentusofGath Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 7/4/07 9:19pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB): vignettes from the POV of Vader, Luke, Leia, Boba Fett, Mara Jade
	the future his mother denied me. Hehe, it's good to know Vader's still a whiny jerk, lol. And the two substitutes I had were far from worthy role models. One led me to damnation; the other left me to a fiery death. Yup, yup, ol whiny is good at what he does - blame everybody else for his actions, lol. I never had a brother, and if this is what brothers do, I am grateful for that. Sadly, brothers do that all the time. But at least it keeps life interesting. The Jedi kept me away from my mother, took my wife from me, and then dared to speak of family? True, how true. But in the end, they learned the price of such a path, didn't they Vadey? My two Masters betrayed me, and it is only appropriate that I should betray them in turn. One good turn deserves another, I always say. I will make him understand his importance. That's very telling right there. 'Make' him understand. Pure Vader... delightful! All the rest - friendship, duty, love - is transient and prone to shifting without a moment's notice, at the whim of circumstances or of our own will. Very true and also very sad. That had me nodding my head in several places MotionWright! Just delicious! May I have some more? Pms, please? -----signature----- In time or so I'm told, I'm just another soul for sale, oh well Feel it in my bones when you break my back, break it just to watch me bend Why'd you have to go and Let it Die? -Foo Fighters http://conscienceoftheking.blogspot.com/
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aelie Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 7/4/07 10:28pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB): vignettes from the POV of Vader, Luke, Leia, Boba Fett, Mara Jade
	A wonderful introspection for Vader! The views on Obi-Wan and Palpatine are exactly how I saw them in the movies. If you have a PM list, please add me to it! -----signature----- "To make light of a burden is to make the burden light." \|\|Dark Lady of the DLC\|\| - \|\|www.darklordscouncil.com\|\|
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Lauren_Solo Registered: Jun '07	Date Posted: 7/5/07 4:29pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB): vignettes from the POV of Vader, Luke, Leia, Boba Fett, Mara Jade
	"No one, Ani," she said. "You're a miracle I cannot explain. There was no father." A miracle you ruine, Ani. With you greed and anger. As he left me to be consumed by lava, Obi-Wan called me his brother. sniffle And you said some pretty horrible things. Killing Obi-Wan was satisfying. He was so good to you! Killing the other will be even more satisfying. And long overdue. Yay! Please kill Palpatine and get back some of that goodness! Blood is the chain that binds my son's destiny to me. Luke will know this to be true. Thank goodness for Luke! That was beautiful MotionWright and so good from the way Vader sees things. It was so sad, but filled with promise! -----signature----- I the stories of VaderLVR64... ginchy, Jade_pilot... Jade_Max, Jedi-Ant... and many more! My first fic! http://boards.theforce.net/before_the_saga/b10475/27060479/p1/?0
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MotionWright Registered: Mar '07	Date Posted: 7/5/07 4:40pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB): vignettes from the POV of Vader, Luke, Leia, Boba Fett, Mara Jade
	G__Anakin: I'm glad you like it. I've added you to the PM list. ratna: Has anyone told you your reviews as are dazzlingly brilliant as your stories? It's an incredible feeling when someone analyses the themes in your writing with the eagle-eyed insight you have. And your feedback means so much more when I know how talented you are as a writer. Your story makes me jealous, and I'm far from new at writing - I'm just a fresh immigrant on these boards. KELIA: It was very hard to capture Vader's voice, and I had to rewrite several times to make it sound like his thoughts. I'm flattered that you think I was successful. darth_treyvah: I try to write every character, even the villains, in a way that the reader can identify with them on some point, or at least understand them. Vader is hard to write, and I'm grateful that you think I did it well. BrentusofGath: I tried to give him some elements of Anakin, hence the whininess. And the words were deliberately chosen there - I had to rewrite and replace some words several times to make it 'sound' like Vader, with the Dark Side and his own ego warping his mind. It's great to know you agree. I'll PM you when I post the next part. aelie: Thanks for your comment! I'm delighted that you share my understanding of Obi-Wan and Palpatine's roles in Anakin's life. Yes, I have a PM list, and you've been added to it. Lauren_Solo: Thanks! Yes, Vader's thoughts are quite twisted, aren't they? I tried to convey that, how the Dark Side tries to distort the genuine feeling he has for Luke and turn it into something selfish and sithly. That will make an interesting contrast with Luke's way of thinking in the next part. -----signature----- About Fathers: http://boards.theforce.net/f/b1/27051840
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MotionWright Registered: Mar '07	Date Posted: 7/9/07 12:26pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB vignettes) - updated 7/9 - part 2: Luke's POV - Date Edited: 7/10/07 10:25am (3 edits total) Edited By: MotionWright
	Hi everyone! Here's the second vignette in the series, in which we examine the question from Luke's side. Thanks to everyone who replied to the first part. And thank-you to BrentusofGath for the pointers on how to make this part sound like the farmboy we know. Part Two Luke Skywalker I fiddle with my prosthetic hand. It's the second gift from my father, if the lightsaber I lost on Bespin can be counted as the first. High Command has awarded me another medal and called me their "new hope", but I don't feel like a hero. Before I joined, they had been on a steady slope towards defeat, and apparently, my arrival turned the tides, but they shouldn't be so sure about that. What they don't know ... Okay, so I destroyed the Death Star, and now I've rescued Princess Leia from Darth Vader's clutches again. But it's my fault Han and Leia were captured. They were Vader's bait for me. They would've been safe if they weren't my friends. I wanted to run away when Mon Mothma thanked me for my service to the Alliance. I felt so guilty. Mothma said Leia is like a daughter to her. She's all that's left of her best friend, Bail Organa. Leia's father must have been a great man. I wish I had met him. Leia is so lucky ... I can't imagine how it hurt her to lose him, but at least he was there for her as she grew up. If only I had a father like that, even if he was dead, instead of ... Vader. I shudder at the name. But I no longer feel the old hatred and fear of the Sith who tortured my friends and killed my father, or so I thought. I'm a Jedi, and Jedi aren't allowed to hate. Or fear. Or feel. Isn't that what Yoda has been trying to knock into my head with his stick? Ben's Jedi Code said something like that too, though he didn't have the time to explain it. Why did he have to get himself killed hours after he promised to train me as a Jedi? I examine my new hand again. In the medbay's dull lighting, it doesn't look different from my other hand, and somehow that's more disturbing than if it was a metallic claw. The synthetic flesh looks and feels like it's really part of my body. I'll have to wear a glove over it or I might forget that it isn't. Would the Alliance still trust me if they knew I'm the spawn of their second most hated enemy? I shake my head. I shouldn't be thinking about this. The dark is dangerous, especially for a barely trained Jedi who is the son of a Sith Lord. I use the Force like Yoda taught me to wash away these dark thoughts. Then I glance down, and the sight of my right hand poking out from a black sleeve brings me right back to them. I've started dressing in black to remind myself of what I can become. Yoda taught me I must never forget the dangers of the Dark Side. I must be mindful of the truth, of who I am and where that can lead. As the saying goes, like father like son ... No. Understanding hits me like lightning. It feels like I'm back on Tatooine looking at the sky, and a new star has shown up while I was blinking. I grab my prosthetic hand and hold it tight against my chest. Ben was right about one thing. Darth Vader is not my father. Maybe we share the same blood, and he's the source of the Force that we both have, as unfair as that is. But whatever he says, the monster who cut off my hand is not my father. Anakin Skywalker, a Jedi Knight, was my father. And like Ben said, Vader killed him, right? So I'm going to kill Vader - from a certain point of view - and bring my father back to life. Because whatever Ben and Yoda would think, I know he's still there, hiding behind that black armor and mask, a prisoner of the Dark Side. Vader couldn't kill him completely. I'm going to find him and bring him back. -----signature----- About Fathers: http://boards.theforce.net/f/b1/27051840
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dancing_star Registered: Feb '07	Date Posted: 7/9/07 1:47pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB vignettes) - updated 7/9 - part 2: Luke's POV
	Wow! You've captured Luke here PERFECTLY! I wanted to run away when Mon Mothma thanked me for my service to the Alliance. I felt so guilty. Awwwww, (sniffs) Luke! Understanding hits me like lightning. It feels like I'm back on Tatooine looking at the sky, and a new star has shown up while I was blinking. I grab my prosthetic hand and hold it tight against my chest. Ben was right about one thing. Darth Vader is not my father. Maybe we share the same blood, and he's the source of the Force that we both have, as unfair as that is. But whatever he says, the monster who cut off my hand is not my father. Anakin Skywalker, a Jedi Knight, was my father. And like Ben said, Vader killed him, right? So I'm going to kill Vader - from a certain point of view - and bring my father back to life. Because whatever Ben and Yoda would think, I know he's still there, hiding behind that black armor and mask, a prisoner of the Dark Side. Vader couldn't kill him completely. I'm going to find him and bring him back. Absolutely beautiful and stunning! P.S. I also enjoyed the one from Vader's POV, but I forgot to comment. It too was very well done ! -----signature----- See my updated bio for fics God bless America and our troops. "The LORD gives strength to his people. The LORD blesses his people with peace." Ps 29:11 ~~~ Drabbles!! http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/29148282/p1/?9
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Lauren_Solo Registered: Jun '07	Date Posted: 7/9/07 3:53pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB vignettes) - updated 7/9 - part 2: Luke's POV
	It's the second gift from my father, if the lightsaber I lost on Bespin can be counted as the first. Oh my poor Lukey! Such 'gifts' he gets from his father! They would've been safe if they weren't my friends. I wanted to run away when Mon Mothma thanked me for my service to the Alliance. I felt so guilty. I just want to hug him and make him feel better! Your Luke is so good! Ben's Jedi Code said something like that too, though he didn't have the time to explain it. Why did he have to get himself killed hours after he promised to train me as a Jedi? Bad things all happen at once, don't they? And like Ben said, Vader killed him, right? I guess. I'm just so glad Luke was able to reach his real father under all that evil. shudders Wow, you are beautiful at Luke's point of view, MotionWright! sniffles -----signature----- I the stories of VaderLVR64... ginchy, Jade_pilot... Jade_Max, Jedi-Ant... and many more! My first fic! http://boards.theforce.net/before_the_saga/b10475/27060479/p1/?0
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aelie Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 7/9/07 4:27pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB vignettes) - updated 7/9 - part 2: Luke's POV
	That was amazing! You completely captured Luke and his feelings towards his father. Keep it up! -----signature----- "To make light of a burden is to make the burden light." \|\|Dark Lady of the DLC\|\| - \|\|www.darklordscouncil.com\|\|
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ratna Registered: Mar '07	Date Posted: 7/9/07 5:48pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB vignettes) - updated 7/9 - part 2: Luke's POV
	I fiddle with my prosthetic hand. It's the second gift from my father, if the lightsaber I lost on Bespin can be counted as the first. Nice! Mothma said Leia is like a daughter to her. She's all that's left of her best friend, Bail Organa. Leia's father must have been a great man. I wish I had met him. Leia is so lucky ... I can't imagine how it hurt her to lose him, but at least he was there for her as she grew up. If only I had a father like that, even if he was dead, instead of ... These thoughts are very in keeping with Luke's age at this time, and his most natural response to learning the story/identity of his father. Vader. I shudder at the name. But I no longer feel the old hatred and fear of the Sith who tortured my friends and killed my father, or so I thought. I'm a Jedi, and Jedi aren't allowed to hate. Or fear. Or feel. Isn't that what Yoda has been trying to knock into my head with his stick? Ben's Jedi Code said something like that too, though he didn't have the time to explain it. Why did he have to get himself killed hours after he promised to train me as a Jedi? Yes, he's still a teenager, and reacting as one. And because his training has been compressed and truncated, he has not been able to form an understanding of what it means to be a Jedi, beyond cliche/slogan phrases. So much was lost in the Purge. Yet all of it is there for the recollecting, to anyone who may open his/her mind to the contents of experience. I examine my new hand again. In the medbay's dull lighting, it doesn't look different from my other hand, and somehow that's more disturbing than if it was a metallic claw. The synthetic flesh looks and feels like it's really part of my body. I'll have to wear a glove over it or I might forget that it isn't. For what is forgotten must be repeated. I shake my head. I shouldn't be thinking about this. The dark is dangerous, especially for a barely trained Jedi who is the son of a Sith Lord. I use the Force like Yoda taught me to wash away these dark thoughts. Then I glance down, and the sight of my right hand poking out from a black sleeve brings me right back to them. I've started dressing in black to remind myself of what I can become. Yoda taught me I must never forget the dangers of the Dark Side. I must be mindful of the truth, of who I am and where that can lead. As the saying goes, like father like son ... repeated... Understanding hits me like lightning. It feels like I'm back on Tatooine looking at the sky, and a new star has shown up while I was blinking. I grab my prosthetic hand and hold it tight against my chest. ... ... Anakin Skywalker, a Jedi Knight, ... my father ... a prisoner of the Dark Side ... I'm going to find him and bring him back. Repeated until it can be changed.... -----signature----- Ou n'a tu pas tellement aime quelqu'un que tu avais peur de l'aimer au peur des souvenirs?
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BrentusofGath Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 7/9/07 10:23pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB vignettes) - updated 7/9 - part 2: Luke's POV
	High Command has awarded me another medal and called me their "new hope", but I don't feel like a hero. 'new hope'. Interesting. But it's my fault Han and Leia were captured. They were Vader's bait for me. They would've been safe if they weren't my friends. LOL! Even when he's being self-deprecating, he still sounds like a whiny little punk, just like dear old dad. Isn't that what Yoda has been trying to knock into my head with his stick? LOL! He's swings for the bleachers! I'll have to wear a glove over it or I might forget that it isn't. I always wondered why he did that. I doubted it was because he secretly admired Michael Jackson. The dark is dangerous, especially for a barely trained Jedi who is the son of a Sith Lord. Vader's breathing Come with me; it is the only way.[/Vader] But whatever he says, the monster who cut off my hand is not my father. Sure he is, he's just played by a different actor. Encore! Great perspective on Luke. When I was a lad, I always imagined myself as Luke. I got the whiny part down, but the lightsaber swinging was a bit tougher. Anyway, you really got into his head with this one! -----signature----- In time or so I'm told, I'm just another soul for sale, oh well Feel it in my bones when you break my back, break it just to watch me bend Why'd you have to go and Let it Die? -Foo Fighters http://conscienceoftheking.blogspot.com/
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snowspeeder_gunner Registered: Apr '07	Date Posted: 7/9/07 10:49pm Subject: RE: About Fathers (ESB vignettes) - updated 7/9 - part 2: Luke's POV - Date Edited: 7/9/07 10:50pm (1 edits total) Edited By: snowspeeder_gunner
	This is really unique! Keep up the good work! Mothma said Leia is like a daughter to her. She's all that's left of her best friend, Bail Organa. Ah, cool, I had never thought about how she felt about all of this. Isn't that what Yoda has been trying to knock into my head with his stick? Hee Hee I've started dressing in black to remind myself of what I can become. That's a really good explanation for his clothing change. If you are going to do anymore updates, could you add me to the PM list? -----signature----- Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the present. Adopter of Jack_the_Fett
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