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ewok_jedi
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1/17/07 8:37pm
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Hey HS29 welcome back!
I really don't know about how things could be improved...I really don't know enough about fan art or art in general to be of any use...
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HanSolo29
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1/17/07 9:02pm
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ewok_jedi posted:
Hey HS29 welcome back!
I really don't know about how things could be improved...I really don't know enough about fan art or art in general to be of any use...
Thank you! 
This forum isn't just for people "in the know" concerning art. I feel that misconception is what is hurting this forum the most. I want to try and bring the two sides together and perhaps start doing some activities together. From your standpoint as an observer and someone who appreciates what the fan artists do here, I'm interested in hearing what it is you think could benefit this forum and really make it flourish. Of course, I have some ideas I'm throwing around in my head, but I'm always interested in hearing what ideas you folks can come up with.
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ewok_jedi
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1/17/07 9:32pm
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I have a thread here but I don't really put anything in it, most of what I do with imaging programs isn't all original but more tracing what already exists and modifying it for my own purposes...I don't really know I spend far more time lurking here than anything else and from what I have seen many of the threads here are by people who have incredible art skills not so much those whose skills aren't very good...
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HanSolo29
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1/17/07 10:59pm
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RE: The Artist's Lounge - Social Thread Ver. 2.0
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ewok_jedi posted:
I have a thread here but I don't really put anything in it, most of what I do with imaging programs isn't all original but more tracing what already exists and modifying it for my own purposes...I don't really know I spend far more time lurking here than anything else and from what I have seen many of the threads here are by people who have incredible art skills not so much those whose skills aren't very good...
And that's perfectly fine. One goal of the Fan Art Studio Class that's currently running is to help improve the skills of artists of all levels of talent. We acknowledge that not everyone here is going to be the next Norman Rockwell or Van Gogh or whomever. But that shouldn't be a reason to not post your work. Perhaps what we need are more threads focused on improving skills and offering critique?
Anyway, Amithyst_Blade just posted a thread that I found rather interesting. I wanted to paste the contents here and maybe try and improve upon it to turn it into another incarnation of the Monthly Challenge(I think it's in need of another boost judging from this month's turnout).
I proclaim a test of sorts. I've been curious to how other people portray the Expanded Universe character of Jaina Solo in their artwork. You could say it is a contest of sorts, but I'm really just curious to see any art work of her. It is very hard to find any of it online, and the only stuff that is online is the cover art from the novels she has appeared in.
So here's the deal. Submit your work of Jaina Solo (unlimited entries). I guess this shall be a Hall of Jaina Solo. happy Get cookin' folks. I want to see some pieces here.
Please note that this thread is for full body or semi-full body shots of Jaina. Please no photos of yourself. This isn't a ranking thread. It is for original artwork only.
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ewok_jedi
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Actually I was noticing that the threads of the established and better artists here tend to get more comments than those who aren't very good or just starting ... perhaps more comments to encourage those who don't get many would help those artists who aren't very good feel more comfortable about posting items of theirs?
I think instead of having more general threads for helping out artists maybe threads that are more specific to an artist's skill level, such as one thread for begining fan artists and a different one for more advanced users? Also I did not see the studio class thread updated very often, perhaps having a user other than the mod take care of such might allow more frequent assignment and help instead of having to add more for the mod to have to do?
The idea by Amithyst_Blade seems to be pretty interesting and something that might be fun to do ...
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HanSolo29
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1/18/07 10:09am
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ewok_jedi posted:
Actually I was noticing that the threads of the established and better artists here tend to get more comments than those who aren't very good or just starting ... perhaps more comments to encourage those who don't get many would help those artists who aren't very good feel more comfortable about posting items of theirs?
I think instead of having more general threads for helping out artists maybe threads that are more specific to an artist's skill level, such as one thread for begining fan artists and a different one for more advanced users? Also I did not see the studio class thread updated very often, perhaps having a user other than the mod take care of such might allow more frequent assignment and help instead of having to add more for the mod to have to do?
The idea by Amithyst_Blade seems to be pretty interesting and something that might be fun to do ...
I actually do like the idea of breaking up certain threads and have activites pertaining more toward your skill level. However, I don't want some people to feel left out because they're aren't "good enough" to be a part of the "elitist" group. Plus, I think it should be up to you, as the artist, to decide where you fit in and where you want to try your hand.
As for the Fan Art Class thread, I do admit that I've been slacking with keeping up with topics and I truly apologize for that. Coming up with topics for each round proves to be the most difficult part of the process. If you guys feel that someone else should handle that thread from now on, I'm all for that as well.
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ewok_jedi
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HanSolo29 posted:
I actually do like the idea of breaking up certain threads and have activites pertaining more toward your skill level. However, I don't want some people to feel left out because they're aren't "good enough" to be a part of the "elitist" group. Plus, I think it should be up to you, as the artist, to decide where you fit in and where you want to try your hand.
As for the Fan Art Class thread, I do admit that I've been slacking with keeping up with topics and I truly apologize for that. Coming up with topics for each round proves to be the most difficult part of the process. If you guys feel that someone else should handle that thread from now on, I'm all for that as well.
I see your point concerning skill level but as far as not being "good enough" to work with the "elitist" artists here, it should be rather obvious to people where their skills lie in relation to such. As an artist I agree you should know where you fit in but sometimes the help you need isn't all that obvious, especially for people just starting out with fan art. In no way is anything I have done all that great but at the same time I am still pretty lost on this whole thing involving fan art...
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HanSolo29
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Well, Fan Art in general is just drawing and creating things out of your love for a particular genre(in this case, it's Star Wars). That's really the only basis you need and as long as you're portraying your love for SW, you don't need to be the best artist in the world.
However, I understand the need to want to improve and produce quality pieces of art. The hard part is trying to find a balance where we can try and help everyone regardless of where they're at concerning skills and talent. I'm still trying to roll around ideas on how seperate threads of this nature could work and what the subject matter would be. We already have an art class thread, so I would really like to steer away from that. I think something else is in order.
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Well for me I use photoshop all the time but with my job it is mostly image manipulation not neccesarily image creation, and in my case in particular I work more towards graphic design than graphic arts ... I can do lots to manipulate an already existing image but clueless for creating decent images from scratch...
Any ways ... what ever seems to work best is obviously what should be done no? 
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ewok_jedi posted:
Any ways ... what ever seems to work best is obviously what should be done no?
Absolutely!
You're not the only one who seems to be doing a lot of work in PS. In fact, a lot of the new folks to Fan Art seem to be working in it. PS may be a good place to start with some kind of activity.
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I work with more than photoshop actually it depends on what I am trying to do ... the logos I have made have been done in Adobe Illustrator other than that the images I manipulate are don in photoshop ... I only get to work with photoshop in my job though ...
What I can do is not from scrath things though, any way to get help with that?
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Well, when I do my artwork for school assignments, I usually do a rough sketch that I scan into the computer and then trace my drawing in either PS or Illustrator. That gives the illusion that it was done from scratch in either program. I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for or if you were talking about completely done using the program.
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I actually can't draw on paper worth a darn, I was supposed to be taking a drawing course at college but that ended up not happening...
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"I actually can't draw on paper worth a darn"
It's something that can be learned, though, with some time and persistence!  And learning to do it on paper is directly translatable to digital (re: tablet & stylus into an art program like Illustrator...about which I am clueless...). I can suggest some good art reference guides, if you're interested in taking up drawing--just like any skill, it needs to be nurtured and practiced to improve it, but I believe in my heart that anyone who really wants to learn to draw can do so.
You might also look into some of the other imaging programs available, like Poser or Bryce (our own academygrad88 uses both of those, and has some terrific results)--with those you can "invent" without actually having to draw from scratch. "Creating" can also mean finding new ways to combine existing images, too: for instance, creating a scene from some originally unrelated images.
I wish you much luck with your explorations and efforts--and if I can help with anything, please let me know!
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FalconFan posted:
"I actually can't draw on paper worth a darn"
It's something that can be learned, though, with some time and persistence! And learning to do it on paper is directly translatable to digital (re: tablet & stylus into an art program like Illustrator...about which I am clueless...). I can suggest some good art reference guides, if you're interested in taking up drawing--just like any skill, it needs to be nurtured and practiced to improve it, but I believe in my heart that anyone who really wants to learn to draw can do so.
You might also look into some of the other imaging programs available, like Poser or Bryce (our own academygrad88 uses both of those, and has some terrific results)--with those you can "invent" without actually having to draw from scratch. "Creating" can also mean finding new ways to combine existing images, too: for instance, creating a scene from some originally unrelated images.
I wish you much luck with your explorations and efforts--and if I can help with anything, please let me know!
FF
Interesting ... I know some people who use photoshop for everything and are pretty good but can't draw worth a darn... I looked into a tablet and stylus but they are to much money for me to spare at the moment (its amazing how working in news production pays barely above minimum wage...) but its definately something on my to get list. Refrence guides would be of great help! I think currently my biggest problem has been that only recently have I started following a more art path, before it was just minor picture manipulation things with photoshop...
looking into them might be a good idea but money is always an issue for me, I got photoshop free from a friend so I could learn more about the programs and the same thing goes with Illustrator... Hmmm.... I always thought of creating as all original with nothing from an existing image...
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