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leia_naberrie
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Warrior Queen, Gentle Lady - Padmé Amidala in the new Clone Wars series
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Welcome to the character workshop thread for Padmé Amidala Naberrie Skywalker in all her many incarnations - daughter, Senator, Queen, wife and mother.
Mission Statement: To provide support for writers and readers of Padmé by deconstructing her character - her origins, her principles, her weaknesses and her flaws. And we want to have fun! 
NEW DISCUSSION TOPIC
Padmé in the new Clone Wars series:
Discussing article on Vader love triangle? New chemistry in 'Clone Wars'
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Discussions
#1: 'Senator, did you dream of politics when you were a little girl?' What made Padmé go into politics at such an early age?
#2: How do you think the events of Episode 3 - Anakin turning, being seperated from her children, the Republic transformed to a dictatorship - will change Padmé's character? Will they break her?
#3: What kind of love life would Padmé have had if she had never cross paths with Anakin Skywalker, all other things remaining equal? What are the real possibilities of Obidala and other non-A/P ships?
#4: Dark Padmé. Nobody is an angel - no matter what Anakin thinks! So under what circumstances would Padmé Amidala feel justified to join sides with Dark forces or corruption in canon? Are there dark elements to her personality?
#5: Post-Prequel Padmé. Let's pretend Padmé survives the events of RotS and lives beyond the PT? ... what next?
#6: Ice Queen no more - How much has her relationship with Anakin Skywalker changed Padmé?
#7: Growing up in Naboo - How was the Academy of Juniour Legislature like? The rather unusual education system in Naboo... The experiences of the young people in the accelerated learning system... The teachers and all the possible role models that contributed to what Padmé Amidala turned out to be.
#8: The Best of Padmé: Her potrayal in the nominees of the Winter Awards
#9: First seeds of romance: The genesis of the A/P love story - TPM.
#10: What does everyone else think about the representation of Padmé in the Clone War cartoon series?
#11: Palpatine - snake or Godfather : what exactly was the relationship between the Chancellor and his so-called protegee?
#12: Revenge of the Sith spoiler discussion
#13: Was Padmé an enabler?
#14: Before the Prequels, what were your ideas of Padmé?
#15: Amidala, Padmé and handmaidens.
#16: Planning for RR 'Warrior Queen, Gentle Lady: Padmé Amidala biography.
#17: Discussing Padmé in profic and fanfic.
#18: RotS Padmé: matyr or coward?
#19: 'The Smart One' Padmé: What else can she be if she's not almost-the-youngest Queen ever elected and she's not almost-the-youngest Senator ever? How can a writer keep her character out of public office and still keep Padmé - Padmé?
#20: Dark Padmé. What seeds of darkness exist within that could turn Padmé the angel into a Bad Person? How does a writer make such a 'turn' convincing? (An old topic revisited.)
#21: Is there a Padmé story you would like to read but have never seen anyone post?
Challenges
2006
Winter Challenge (S): Sock!Dare!Roulette! Tri-Challenge Winter Tournament! - Tri-Wizard Tournament-like writing challenge, involving a dare, a roulette and lots and lots of socks.
July/August Challenge (S): A short story or vignette with Our Lady as an evil person.
May/June Challenge (S, BftS): 13 AU!Padmé Roulette
April Challenge (S): Kill Padmé. How would you have her die?
2005
April Challenge: A character study of Padmé through the lens of aomeone whose unflinching perspective of her we've rarely had a chance to partake.
February Challenge (S): GFFA Valentine. A short story involving Padmé accidentally stumbling into a festival of love.
2004
December Challenge (BftS): Holidays in School. In the spirit of the festivities, this month's challenge is a story about a holiday season that Padmé Amidala spends in the Academy of Juniour Legislature.
November Challenge (S): A short story that explains the Origins of the Corset. 
October Challenge (S): Scary Halloween Story (the Saga version)
October Challenge (BytS): Scary Halloween Story (Beyond the Saga version)
September Challenge (BftS): Padmé's last days at home before she becomes Princess of Theed.
Interested writers can sign up here to join or guest-star in our work-in-progress RR biography of Padmé Amidala: Warrior Queen, Gentle Lady - The Life and Times of Padmé Amidala.
Useful References
Wookiepedia
StarWars Databank
Affiliates
Varykino - The Padmé Amidala Index
The Padmé Amidala Fan Club
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Knight-Ander
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Great idea for a thread, l_n. 
it should have Winama in one form or the other
What's a "Winama?" 
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obaona
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AHA!
I'm so glad I'm not the only one.  I asked leia_naberrie about that, and she kindly explained. Winama is apparently Padme's grandmother, introduced in Queen Amidala's journal.
I don't think Padme made a totally conscious decision to go into politics. I think opportunities came to her and she took them because she wanted to help people, and that seemed the greatest avenue to do so. It was that drive to help others that just ended up leading her into politics, she never actually sought to get into politics purely for, well, politics. Actually, I think in hindsight she regrets getting into politics - at least as early as she did. That's the way I tend to read it. 
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I'm trying to imagine myself at 12 yrs old... I guess at that age, you don't really realize that you're young, and just that you have so many ideas, and you want to share it with the world. When you're as educated as Padme was, then I could see that feeling being tenfold, as there's so much she knows that her peers might not know (in terms of facts anyways). Winama, I'm guessing, also had some political influence in her life, so it could be her who urged Padme to be passionate about her ideas, and encourage her to put in 100% into public service. I wonder if it was a grandmother I-love-you-Padme-and-I-want-you-to-succeed thing or more We-need-a-good-monarch-and-I-think-you'd-be-good sort of thing.
It's hard for me to imagine, though, why she, at twelve, might be more qualified than Bibble at 50 or so.
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Yay, the thread is finally up and running! I bet you stayed up all night thinking of that title, leia_naberrie  . It's a good one!
When's the challenge due?
As for why I think Padmé went into politics, I know from living in Washington, D.C. for 13 years that there are people who are practically born policy wonks. But I don't think Padmé is one of them. I think she was recognized at a young age as someone with the potential to be ruler and Naboo culture dictates that this is an honor one does not refuse. Padmé consistently chooses duty over her own personal needs and desires (except when it came to a certain bad boy Jedi) and I wonder if this is a Naboo thing or a family thing or both. She also has an altruistic streak. The background material I've read says her father was some refugee-helping do-gooder and in one of the deleted scenes from AOTC, Padmé mentions that as a child she also helped refugees. I can see that she would view politics as a way to help people. But what sets her apart from the Palpatines of the galaxy is that she has no self-aggrandizing ambitions. In other words, she's not in it just for power's sake.
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Exciting thread topic! I'm looking forward to all the discussions and challenges it will inspire.
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I'm so glad this is up!!! Padme reminds me so much of her daughter. You can tell where Leia got her inherent sense of "nobility". In AOTC, we see that Padme almost seems to be hobbled by her sense of duty. She's been a servant of the people so long, she forgotten how to be "just a person". From the stories I've read, Winama is Padme's inspiration. Another strong woman who is guided by her responsible nature and strong character. Aside from the refugee movement, politics would be almost the only choice for Padme. Although like Leia, she naively believes that all politicians do it for the good of people, like herself. We know that's not true. 
Will you be putting up a thread in Saga or do we post entries here?
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What's a "Winama?"
Good question!
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Now, what's Princess of Theed's specific role? I know in one fic, lando was elected prince and was basically mayor.
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As for why she went into politics, I agree pretty much with the assessment of a bright, socially conscious girl who accepts any opportunity to make a difference and gain experience. I think two things in AOTC make this clear: 1) her comments on why she became a senator. She feels that she should have waited because she hadn't been ready and when she was ready, she couldn't refuse the opportunity to serve. 2) Palo and her. Both started out the same, he went on to a different kind of service--art.
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Winama is Padme's grandmother and her mentor, so to speak.
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knight-Ander and Sara_Kenobi:
What's a "Winama?"
As oba said.
this is great! you guys have really got the ball rolling here.
MissPadme:
When's the challenge due?
It's a monthly challenge so it is due from now until the first week of October.
rhonderoo:
Will you be putting up a thread in Saga or do we post entries here?
Mmmm... What would you guys prefer? Some of the stories will defintely enter Before the Saga timeline... What do you guys think?
The background material I've read says her father was some refugee-helping do-gooder and in one of the deleted scenes from AOTC, Padmé mentions that as a child she also helped refugees. I can see that she would view politics as a way to help people. But what sets her apart from the Palpatines of the galaxy is that she has no self-aggrandizing ambitions. In other words, she's not in it just for power's sake.
I can definitely see that too. She seems to see politics as a means to an end - not the end in and of itself.
Actually, I think in hindsight she regrets getting into politics - at least as early as she did.
It seems that way certainly. She said as much in AotC to Anakin.
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l_n: I would create a thread in each category linking to this one. You'll get more entries, discussion, IMO. That's what we're doing with her other half.
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Probably one in the Before the Saga Forum and another in The Saga Forum. You could ask for a moderators' opinion, too.
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Thanks people! I just created the challenge thread for the Before the Saga board. You can find it here. I am really looking forward to seeing those stories.
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What a useful thread. Padme is usually mischaracterised in fandom and I would like to participate in anything taht will help her be more understood. I am not a good sw fan fiction writer, I like my Buffy/Spike stories too much, but I enjoy fandom discussions so therefore....
Discussion Topic #1: What made Padmé go into politics at such an early age?
Well I agree with everyone who said that she went into it because she wanted to use her political power to make a difference but I will go ahead to add that perhaps a little bit of corruption also entered her while she was there. Part of what made her return as Senator was her desire to help people, true but she could have done that, couldn't she, as anything other than a political office holder? She could have started working fully in a relief organisation, or become a person of influence with her history as Naboo's former Queen without necessarily holding an office herself. I get the impression, but please this is just my personal opinion, I am not trying to rag Padme just shed more light on her character... I get the impression that Padme got *used* to the powers of her office, so although she left the Throne 'with relief', when she got home she was edgy and restless and only until she returned to another role of power and responsibility was she happy. Well, like I said that's just my opinion, anyone can dispute with it as they please...
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