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Thrawn McEwok  13601 posts
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Date Posted: 3/1/05 7:33am Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread - Date Edited: 3/1/05 7:48am (1 edits total) Edited By: Thrawn McEwok
Striker: no, no, there is some relationship - it's still a dense, physically 'phased' form of iron...

But words change their meaning - in common usage, 'laser' doesn't simply mean 'light amplified by the stimulated emission of radiation' any more, but refers broadly speaking to bolts or beams or bullets of energy, or even particle-beam weapons, or even the 'gun' firing them; in SW profic, even its synonym 'coherent light' is used, for instance to describe the bolts from X-wings' wingtip lasers: So I'm suggesting that 'neutronium' in SW has come to describe 'phased' derivatives of iron in general, rather than simply those formed when white dwarf stars go supernova...

Obviously, I'm abusing the idea of physical 'phasing' a little, but only in the context of the established FTL, antigrav, and energy-manipulation technology of SW...

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RK_Striker_JK_5  20142 posts
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Date Posted: 3/1/05 10:15am Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread
Oh, got it.

Read Mike Wong's site. He's brilliant, but in an area I have absolutely no interest in. His complete and utter bias against Trek-stopping train of thoughtright now.

Anyway...pretty good explanations about Hapes' supposed low population. Maybe they treat the homeworld more along the lines of Earth in Star Trek, keeping it mostly pristine and pure as sort of a 'monument'.

 

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Date Posted: 3/1/05 11:02am Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread - Date Edited: 3/1/05 11:03am (1 edits total) Edited By: CRPA_Index
CRPA MASS UPDATE (1 March, 2005)


We’ve crossed that barrier. We’re in March, our second month of operation. Carr and I would like to thank those who have supported CRPA by participating in discussions and challenges, writing reviews, supplying relevant information. We’re very appreciative – and we hope everything continues “business as usual”!

We were particularly pleased by the responses to the first challenge. They were very impressive and in good numbers! We believe “In The Case of New Alderaan” – the March challenge – will intrigue you just as much, if not more.

In our continual effort to improve the index and justify our use of the word “definitive” in our opening line, we’d like to hear from you. Is CRPA missing something? Is there anything more you folks want? Let us know! happy

In essence, thank you happy .


- Challenge story by vader_incarnate added to CRPA Challenge Index.

- Reviews for the following stories have been added:

• “I Came To Conquer” by Ace_Venom
• “Grasping at Dreams” by CarrKicksDoor
• “Undercurrents” by Jade_Max
• “To See You Again” by Lady_Jedi_Carenix
• “Anake” by SilSolo
• “The Bonds Between” by vader_incarnate


- Added the following CRPA challenge for the month of March:

Jacen is summoned to New Alderaan to resolve the matter of the planet’s legitimate royal family. As the son of Princess Leia, Jacen is entitled to rule. As Jacen’s wife and Queen Mother of the largest consortium in the galaxy, Tenel Ka must tread lightly as a New Alderaan separatist faction demands Hapan monetary aid. Your story must include the following words:

• Spurious
• Evince
• Hubris
• Moiety
• Extirpate


- New section for past CRPA Challenges created.

- Added interview with RK_Striker_JK_5.

- Added March spotlight fan fic.

- Further information on Hapes and Dathomir has been added with thanks to our typist, RK_Striker_JK_5.

- New discussion topic:

In your opinion, why isn’t J/TK as popular as J/J or K/J? Or do you disagree with that assessment?


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RK_Striker_JK_5  20142 posts
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Date Posted: 3/1/05 11:25am Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread
Oh, my! My interview's up? Cool! And I'm your 'typist'? Heh.

I do have one thing. WOuld it be possible to put interviews into a separate post and list all of them? That way past interviewees can look back on their words and thoughts with pride.

Or not. I don't know, just throwing stuff out.

 

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Lady_Jedi_Carenix  3602 posts
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Date Posted: 3/1/05 11:32am Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread
Actually, I also agree with you RK_Striker_JK_5. happy More so that if someone new finds the thread they don't miss out some really interesting author interviews. wink happy

As for the new question --

Part of the problem for J/TK not being as popular as other relationships is that 1) you have to have people who have actually read the YJK series and 2) having read the YJK they actually like the pairing.

If people have only read the NJO, there is little to nothing for J/TK interaction, whereas the romantic life of Jaina gets explored/at least a single line written about in every NJO book (at least from what I remember). It's hard to imagine a romantic relationship between Jacen and Tenel Ka based on what is presented in the NJO (unless you pay really close attention in Star by Star and take to heart that Tenel Ka wanted to kiss Jacen). Also, there are people who have read the YJK and hate Tenel Ka/the pairing but do like Jaina (*shrugs*).

 

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Amidala_Skywalker  5958 posts
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Date Posted: 3/1/05 11:34am Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread
Good reasoning, Ark. In my mind, SW neutronium is just another type of ore (like iron) found under the surface of any planet or moon. It can’t be defined as RL or Trek neutronium.

I like your reasoning for Hapes’ low population. If it was 20 million, I think it would be more much believable. Even ST Earth (squee - my inner Trekkie loves these references!) has more than four million inhabitants. I’d want to keep my capital clean and avoid another Coruscant-like planet.

Striker, Carr and I had a short discussion about past interviews. Basically (I think – we were probably tired at the time wink ) we decided that we’d create a website and put the past interviews and spotlights there. Create some cool navigation and such and then post the link in the index. Good thought, though! happy

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RK_Striker_JK_5  20142 posts
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Date Posted: 3/1/05 11:36am Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread - Date Edited: 3/1/05 11:41am (1 edits total) Edited By: RK_Striker_JK_5
I'm not so sure. I saw a bunch of new J/TK fics and ficlets spring up in the past month or so. But you're right in other regards. Jaina's 'love' life is dissected like nobody's business. Tenel Ka and Jacen...is hardly touched upon.

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Who's 'Ark'?

 

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Date Posted: 3/1/05 12:42pm Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread - Date Edited: 3/1/05 12:57pm (1 edits total) Edited By: pregnantpadme
In case you have all finished with the line of royal succession...ignore my ramblings...but this is a subject that I happen to know something about (due to my exhaustive study of magazines such has Hello!, Paris Match, and People and my obession with biographies and historical fictions based on the lives of Royal families.

Queen Elizabeth is on the Throne in England and her heir is Charles making him 1st in line for the throne.

His children are next and then it skipps back up to Elizabeth's next son, Andrew and then down to his children. The point being that the line of succession is supposed to flow in as straight a line as possible

1st in line: Charles
2nd: William
3rd: Harry
4th: Andrew (Charles brother, QEII's second son)
5th: Princess Beatrice (Andrew's Daughter)
6th: Princess Eugenia (Andrew's 2nd daughter)
7th: Prince Edward (QEII's third son)
8th: Louise Windsor (Edwards daughter)
9th: Princess Anne, The Princess Royale (QEII's daughter)
10th:Peter Phillips (Princess Anne’s Son)
11th: Zara Phillips (Princess Anne’s daughter)


The above are all QEII’s direct descendants. If they were all to die, the line of succession would then jump to her sister Margaret and since Margaret is now did…on to her descendants:

12th: Viscount Linley (Margret’s son)
13th: The Hon. Charles Armstrong-Jones (Linley’s son)
14th: The Hon Margarita Armstrong Jones (Linley’s Daughter)
15th: The Lady Sarah Chatto (Margret’s daughter)
16. Master Samuel Chatto (Sarah’s son)
17. Master Arthur Chatto (Sarah’s 2nd son)

Then…with QEII’s and her sister’s direct descendents dead in a horrible catastrophe…the sucssession would jump back up to QEII’s cousins:
18. The Duke of Gloucester
19. Earl of Ulster
20. The Lady Davina Windsor
21. The Lady Rose Windsor
22. The Duke of Kent
23. The Lady Marina Charlotte Windsor
24. The Lady Amelia Windsor
25. The Lady Helen Taylor
26. Master Columbus Taylor
27. Master Cassius Taylor

One point that is hard to figure out is the Princess Anne being skipped over in the line on favor of her younger brother's and their children. Anne was the second born to QEII, but her younger brother's are ahead of her in the line. In the rest of the line...the families either had only girls...meaning no younger brother's could displace them, or all boys, or the boys were born first. So I can't tell from this if Anne being skipped is an antiquated rule and it would no longer apply or if there has just been no need to skip any sisters in the last generation because the gender and birth order of all the decsendants children have cooperated with rules of sucsession.

So…now that everyone thinks I’m stark raving mad and have way to much time on my hands…Teneniel’s mother was already dead by CoPL…Augwynne, was Teneniel’s grandmother. I don’t ever remember reading anywhere that Tenel Ka had any Dathomirian first cousins (children of aunts) meaning, Teneniel must have been an only child, however I do seem to remember that Augwynne had more than 1 child...maening that Teneniel's mother was not an only child and the line of sucsession would therefore pass down to Teneniel's aunts and their daughters. My impression of TK saying that she was a princess of Dathomir was like Prince Charles' brothers' daughter saying she is a princess of England...yeah, she is...but she's 5th in line (now...when William and Harry have kids she'll continue to drop down) and isn't ever going to see the throne. There was also never any talk of Tenel Ka being the heir to any throne or leadership other than that of the Consortium. And…Teneniel says in Dark Journey that the Vong (excuse me…Yuuzhan Vong)
had captured Dathomir a few years before…was there anything left to rule?

OK…I’m going to go back upi and finish reading this thread. Please forgive me if I’ve been horribly redundant.

 

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Ace_Venom  830 posts
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Date Posted: 3/1/05 2:17pm Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread
I'm going to admit that I'm not exactly a big fan of the J/TK pairing, but I also don't mind using it out of convenience if it fits the story I want to tell. I believe the main problem people have with the pairing is that it presents a dead end for Jacen's character.

I'm going to pull from an old argument and say that many may see Jacen becoming the Queen Mother's consort as a dead end for a character that blossomed so thoroughly during the NJO. It's also a major reason why I'm not a big fan of the pairing in the first place. In my opinion, it can fit some stories, but definitely not all of them. Personally, I believe that J/TK is one of those "impossible love" stories that almost reminds me of A/P.

 

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RK_Striker_JK_5  20142 posts
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Date Posted: 3/1/05 2:32pm Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread
It being 'impossible love' makes it all the sweeter.

If it is, in fact, impossible...

And pregnantpadme? That list is...incredible. I now know more about the British Royal Family than I ever did.

Whether or not that's a good thing remains to be seen...


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Date Posted: 3/1/05 2:49pm Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread
Awesome update. grin

Yes, a lot of people may not realize the cool J/TK pairing, due to having read the njo but not the YJK.

Our goal is to change that, then.

How? I have no idea. But having this Index is definitely a great start!

 

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Lady_Jedi_Carenix  3602 posts
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Date Posted: 3/2/05 8:46am Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread
pregnantpadme: Wow! shock I learned something new. Cool. cool

Sort of a tangent: For more RPG Hapes related stuff, there's a story following Isolder's stint with pirates at the wizards of the coast website (also includes stats for Star Home, the Gun of Command, and Ta'a Chume) -- [link=http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/sw20040506hapes1 http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/sw20040506hapes1 [/l ink].

 

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C3P0_R2D2  453 posts
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Date Posted: 3/2/05 3:32pm Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread
Ummm...

*blinks*

I'm lost now, but I'll reread later. We have to go out to dinner.

Damn Social Occasions[sp?]!

 

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RK_Striker_JK_5  20142 posts
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Date Posted: 3/3/05 4:47pm Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread
Nice, Carenix! Very, very nice.

I might have to try the challenge this month...if I have free time. Oh, darned plot bunnies! They're breeding like...plot bunnies! And there are subplot hamsters scurrying about and crossover...guinea pigs here and there.

 

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Date Posted: 3/3/05 5:08pm Subject: RE: Crystal Reef Palace Auditorium (CRPA) - Jacen/Tenel Ka Index & Resource Thread
Welcome to the new debaters happy . It's a pleasure to have you here.

ETA on next index update: early next week (it all depends on whether we receive more submissions).

Also, please consider volunteering for the CRPA Review team! We don't hound you for reviews, don't worry! Everything is at your own pace happy . We'd love to eventually have a review for at least over a quarter of the index fan fiction.

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