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Ultima_1
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4/14 1:11pm
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It doesn't seem as likely now, but until Revelation, I had figured that Jacen was manipulating Tahiri more than was immediately apparent. From his journey, he probably knows lots of techniques to impact what a person sees, and is strong enough that he probably could have used them against Tahiri to make her easier to manipulate into taking that first flow walk (and more likely to become addicted to them).
In Revelation, it seems to have moved past that point, but it's still possible that he's manipulating her more than we realize.
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Tahi
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4/17 5:09am
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Hey there Glitbiter and Ultima 
Yep - I agree about the confusion, Glitbiter. It's almost as if there's a series missing in between NJO and DN in which something happened to change Tahiri!!
I'll accept that she would go back in time to give Anakin that kiss if she had the chance, but I think she would find closure in that, and not need more, and more
That's a good point. I concur.
Also Tahiri seems to believe that Jacen's way is the right way... why?
That confuses me, too. It's not like Tahiri to agree with something that radical without a lot of argument. She's usually stubborn - but in Inferno she's like a wet flannel, always wanting to please - or that's how she's portrayed anyway.
Yes, it's true that the relationship between the two of them appears to have shifted a bit in Revelation - but it still seems OOC to me. Unless - as you point out, Ultima - it's due to Jacen using his esoteric techniques to manipulate her. That would make sense, and it would have been something the writers could have used to make it all more plausible.
Thanks for posting your thoughts.
JA
Yeah, I remember that scene in Rebirth, where they were on the hull of that spy ship and Anakin told Tahiri that vision he had of her. It's a shame his vision couldn't have been one of her that we would expect from teenagers.
Ah - that was the scene. I remember now. Yes indeed about the possibility of alternate visions for Anakin. 
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Tahi
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4/17 5:12am
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Golly - haven't had a double post for ages!! Boards are playing games tonight.
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Starsaber
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Tahi posted:
Yes, it's true that the relationship between the two of them appears to have shifted a bit in Revelation - but it still seems OOC to me. Unless - as you point out, Ultima - it's due to Jacen using his esoteric techniques to manipulate her. That would make sense, and it would have been something the writers could have used to make it all more plausible.
I'm not sure if Jacen ever learned the technique Lumiya was using in Betrayal, but that would seem to fit the bill nicely based on what we know of it. That's the approach I'm using in my fanfic [/cheap plug] 
EDIT: Sorry, this is Ultima_1. Forgot I was on a game ban.
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Tahi
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4/19 5:39am
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It sure sounds like a plausible theory because we know Jacen is the sort to work on skills like that in his perfectionist way.
I definitely think we need to have more work done in profic on the background to Jacen's apparent sway over Tahiri. I accept that it's good that a writer expects readers to do some work - but that only works if sufficient clues are given. I feel that all we have is our own interpretions based on a few quotes from early books - and even then taken slightly out of context. It's very frustrating. Is it sloppy characterisation - or is there a whole lot of clues I'm missing?
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YodaKenobi
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4/19 10:52am
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Tahi posted:
I definitely think we need to have more work done in profic on the background to Jacen's apparent sway over Tahiri.
I agree. I really hope Invincible touches on this stuff in some detail.
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Tahi
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It would certainly help. Even better would be if we discover that Tahiri has been stringing Jacen along the whole time. LOL
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Thrawn McEwok
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Sorry to interrupt, but some of you might be interested in this...?
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Earthknight
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I actually think Tahiri has gone fully dark and Ben will redeem her. If Anakin was alive right now, he'd be ashamed of her and everything she has done.
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star_writer24
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Wow, everytime I think about posting on this topic, I just get so sad.
Tahiri is one of my all time favorite characters, I loved her energy, and her inability to keep her mouth shut as a child.
I then learned to appreciate her inner strenth as she learned to share her very mind and soul with an alien being, and then finally outliving her best friend and soul mate Anakin Solo.
But now...she's seems like a shell of her former self. This shell imagery is perptuated by the fact that we see her external actions with no clue as to what her inner motivations might be.
I admit part of me hopes she is simply put out of her misery in the final chapter of LOTF, the story has simply mutilated her character and used her for its own evil ends. It would even be cool, if when she died she was redeemed and Anakin was there waiting for her on the otherside, not that I think that will happen.
So anyway just a few of my depressing thoughts on a depressing subject.
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Earthknight
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I think it would be a really dramatic scene if Ben and Tahiri have a duel and Ben is using the same tactics that Luke was using on Vader in RotJ. So anyway as Ben is attempting to redeem her, Anakin's blue ghost shows up and then together Anakin and Ben succeed in bringing Tahiri back to her regular self.
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Tahi
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First of all - a reminder about the Anahiri challenge to write an Anakin story set in the era of the Corellian trilogy.
Second - you might like to try your hand at another challenge on the Beyond thread: The Solo/Veila Resuscitation Thread
Here's hoping to see more stories about Anakin and A/T. 
Ooh - I like your ideas about Ben redeeming Tahiri with Anakin's help, Earthknight. IF Tahiri's really gone dark then that would be a great way to resolve it. It would be true to Star Wars, too, as the theme of redemption has always been crucial to it.
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I like your idea of the current portrayal of Tahiri with its lack of inside views as a symbol of Tahiri's hollowness.  That's very cool.
Yes, I get depressed about the current Tahiri representation - hence the article. I try and be hopeful, but I was ever hopeful about Anakin after SbS, and that sure didn't do much good.  But, it would be good to be proved wrong and have something good happen this time.
I find it impossible to equate the current Tahiri with the old one. It's like a complete break in the continuity.
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Klimt_Of_Tornesdal
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Hey guys and gals, hows things?
I have a new multi part story I've just started working on tonight which will be showing everyone, but mostly A/T centric. I was wondering if anyonne would be keen to take a look at the start of it and see what you think, bearing in mind that it's only enough for the first post so far, and I'm not too sure when it will see the boards. I'm hoping to get a significant portion written in advance so I have some fall back space if I hit a block.
Anyone who's keen just PM me with your email addy and I'll send a straight text version through.
Wayne.
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Tahi
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Hey there, Klimt
Always good to have another A/T fan pop in. I've Pmed you about your story.
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Ultima_1
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Since the Jedi are aligned with the Wookies, do you think that Anakin's lightsaber could play a role in Tahiri's possible redemption? Or could it have been destroyed in the orbital bombardment?
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