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Earthknight
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I honestly don't think Tahiri is going to go fully dark. I actually believe Ben is going to make her come fully to the light since no one in NJO wants to help her. Ben is actually the first Jedi in the NJO to actually step forward and try to help her. The rest just wanted to kill her which is sad. Tahiri deserved what she got: redemption  .
I'm a Tahiri fan and to me she's better as a lightsider than as a darksider.
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Earthknight posted:
I honestly don't think Tahiri is going to go fully dark. I actually believe Ben is going to make her come fully to the light since no one in NJO wants to help her. Ben is actually the first Jedi in the NJO to actually step forward and try to help her. The rest just wanted to kill her which is sad. Tahiri deserved what she got: redemption .
I'm a Tahiri fan and to me she's better as a lightsider than as a darksider.
I disagree slightly with what you said. During the Yuuzhan Vong war, Anakin did what he could to help Tahiri recover from her attempted shaping. When Anakin died, Luke and Mara did what they could to help her recover. And it seemed that they succeeded. But it's been since Dark Nest that Tahiri received the short end of the deal from the Jedi. Will we ever get the Tahiri who talked non-stop and who was Anakin's love back? No - she's gone. Will we get the merged personality Tahiri from the end of the Yuuzhan Vong war? I don't know.
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Just finished 'Invinsible.' Who is this woman portraying Tahiri????
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Earthknight
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Tahiri definitely wasn't acting like herself. But still, she was kind of sexy in a twisted sort of way  .
I can only hope she becomes a good little woman again. Not fragile but tough and sweet.
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Tahi
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I still haven't got the book, so can't contribute to the discussion - but I still maintain that Tahiri hasn't been portrayed as Tahiri since the end of the NJO.
On another note, I've posted my challenge response. It's very late and also very short - but it's done. DRL has not been kind lately.
It's called Drumbeats
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YodaKenobi
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Tahi posted:
I still haven't got the book, so can't contribute to the discussion - but I still maintain that Tahiri hasn't been portrayed as Tahiri since the end of the NJO.
On another note, I've posted my challenge response. It's very late and also very short - but it's done. DRL has not been kind lately.
It's called Drumbeats
Awesome piece, Tahi  Everyone should check it out 
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Tahi
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Thanks, Yoda.
I still haven't managed to make myself read Invincible, so I still can't add any thoughts to the discussion. I have to say though that the Ben-Tahiri angle is a little nauseating.  The more I hear, the worse it sounds.
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G__Anakin
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The Ben-Tahiri scene is not nearly as bad as people say it is. Just a couple of Tahiri's actions are weird.
Also, the redemption is really good!
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G__Anakin posted:
Also, the redemption is really good!
Actually, I'm not sure I'd agree that the redemption scene is that good. I'd say it's on a par with her entire fall (easy come, easy go--one assumes) but like everything else the motivations which drove these characters in LotF were superficial at best. *shrugs*
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G__Anakin
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Kidan posted:
G__Anakin posted:
Also, the redemption is really good!
Actually, I'm not sure I'd agree that the redemption scene is that good. I'd say it's on a par with her entire fall (easy come, easy go--one assumes) but like everything else the motivations which drove these characters in LotF were superficial at best. *shrugs*
I say it was well done because it shows that Tahiri was never really evil. If you can convince someone easily, they most likely weren't too far gone.
I also like the motivation. Ben did it because he wanted to. There isn't enough being good because it is part of you for Jedi, rather than it is just a job. Ben's actions show that he is a good person, not that he is trying to be a better Jedi.
I do have to agree with you on Tahiri's motivation for falling was quite pathetic. Another scene that was great is when she relizes the truth about flow-walking, and about Anakin. I think it really change her a little.
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Tahi
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Yeah, I don't know. I still haven't read the book, so my opinions are based on the previous books of the series. But I felt that the characterisation of Tahiri is poor because there is no development to show WHY she chose to follow Jacen, or WHY all of a sudden she started having unresolved grief issues. The Tahiri at the end of the NJO had come to accept that Anakin's death, although terrible, was necessary. And she appeared to be moving into the future on a secure path. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I expect writers to SHOW me why people act as they do - I like to see what's going on in their heads. And if a good person falls, I expect to see WHY.
Actually I thought that was what good writers did.  Maybe I'm wrong.
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I think or at least what I am hoping that what I saw in invincible is that they're setting Tahiri up for something in the future. What that is I have no idea, but I am putting a lot of hope and wieght on the following lines:
Tahiri turned on the glow rod again. Her face was solemn but resolute, "I think's it's time to leave the lies behind," she said. "It's time to leave a lot of things behind."
Anyway it will be very interesting to see what they do with her in the future, I think if we're honest nobody really got a lot character development in this series outside of Ben and Jacen, I never really felt like what Jaina was doing was very believeable either, or at least how she came around to that. Just my two cents, not worth very much really.
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G__Anakin
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star_writer24 posted:
I think or at least what I am hoping that what I saw in invincible is that they're setting Tahiri up for something in the future. What that is I have no idea, but I am putting a lot of hope and wieght on the following lines:
Tahiri turned on the glow rod again. Her face was solemn but resolute, "I think's it's time to leave the lies behind," she said. "It's time to leave a lot of things behind."
I thought the same thing about the paragraph! That's one of the reasons I've made my challenge at Beniri about the future!
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G__Anakin
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Tahi posted:
Yeah, I don't know. I still haven't read the book, so my opinions are based on the previous books of the series. But I felt that the characterisation of Tahiri is poor because there is no development to show WHY she chose to follow Jacen, or WHY all of a sudden she started having unresolved grief issues. The Tahiri at the end of the NJO had come to accept that Anakin's death, although terrible, was necessary. And she appeared to be moving into the future on a secure path. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I expect writers to SHOW me why people act as they do - I like to see what's going on in their heads. And if a good person falls, I expect to see WHY.
Actually I thought that was what good writers did. Maybe I'm wrong.
I'd be willing to send you excerpts from the book if you want. I already typed 3 scenes up, and saved, for Jedi-Ant. PM me if you want them!
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Tahi posted:
Yeah, I don't know. I still haven't read the book, so my opinions are based on the previous books of the series. But I felt that the characterisation of Tahiri is poor because there is no development to show WHY she chose to follow Jacen, or WHY all of a sudden she started having unresolved grief issues. The Tahiri at the end of the NJO had come to accept that Anakin's death, although terrible, was necessary. And she appeared to be moving into the future on a secure path. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I expect writers to SHOW me why people act as they do - I like to see what's going on in their heads. And if a good person falls, I expect to see WHY.
Actually I thought that was what good writers did. Maybe I'm wrong.
I have to agree with Tahi here. I haven't read the book yet either, but I've read all the previous LOTF books and found myself vastly disappointed by her characterisation. While I don't think that the Tahiri we know from the NJO would have done what she did I don't think that that's the biggest problem. The biggest problem is that lack of screen time. They took an entire series to describe exactly how Jacen fell to the dark side, and even then it seemed a little unreal to me. With Tahiri, there was no real signs of change in the early books, when she appeared at all, and then suddenly from Inferno onwards she was a Sith.
As for the whole Ben/Tahiri angle, again, I haven't read the book but I find the idea pretty disconcerting. I worry that the only reason that they're pushing it is because Tahiri is the only single female main character who isn't related to him.
Just my thoughts.
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