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lazykbys_left Registered: Feb '05	Date Posted: 11/9/06 4:32am Subject: RE:Crossover Index and Discussion [defining SW in terms of the X-over universe]
	delurks Here's something that's been bugging me for some time: what do you think about defining one universe in terms of the other? Take HP, for example. Should the Force be a kind of magic? Should magic be part of the Force? Should Force sensitives automatically be gifted with magical aptitude or should most of them be muggles, and vice versa? As a writer - and please note that this probably only applies to my state of mind when I'm writing - my stance is that the crossover'd worlds shouldn't mix that much. Doing so would be diluting their uniquenesses. I try to keep non-SW people Force blind for that reason. (Then again, I prefer non-Force sensitives to Force sensitives anyway. ) Of course, this isn't to say I won't give muggles Force sensitivity or turn Lando into a wizard. But I'll try to do it without giving the Jedi and/or wizards more powers. The narrative possibilites are too fun to pass up. - lazy -----signature----- "You're like some kind of link machine." - rhonderoo It didn't stop being magic just because you found out how it was done. DARK SIDE FHTAGN lazykbys fanfic index (click and scroll dowwwn): http://boards.theforce.net/m/b1/17609715/r17736763
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LilyHobbitJedi Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 11/9/06 12:29pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion - Date Edited: 11/9/06 12:30pm (1 edits total) Edited By: LilyHobbitJedi
	lazykbys_left posted: Take HP, for example. Should the Force be a kind of magic? Should magic be part of the Force? Should Force sensitives automatically be gifted with magical aptitude or should most of them be muggles, and vice versa? That is always a difficult question for anyone starting a HP/SW crossover. I know some people really hate the idea of Jedi being able to use magic and wizards using the Force. For my own SW/HP crossover I decided that wizards shouldn't have access to the Force, because they are all together part of an alternate universe that has nothing to do with midiclorians. For Jedi on the other hand I think they would be able to use magic with wands because the Force that lives inside of them is able to embody and manipulate itself into forming the HP version of magic. But that is just my take on the matter. -----signature----- Proud Master to eboneya & Alassë Eärfalas! Everybody Lies- House/SW Crossover! http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/28032689/r28039379/ A Light In The Darkness http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b1047
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TigerofRobare Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 11/9/06 10:13pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion
	I prefer psuedoscience. For example, in one of my HP/SW stories I explained (through Yoda) that magic is the result of higher dimmensional physics. I think that plausability is important in crossovers--I mean, does the method of linking up the two universes make sense in both and things like that. A balance needs to be struck between the different laws. If, for example, one wanted to do a Scrubs/SW crossover one would have to find a balance: Is the hospital in the GFFA? Has a SW character crashed on Earth? Is it one of JD's daydreams? How would the humerous nature of Scrubs mesh with something more dramatic like Star Wars? Another thing is common to all stories but especially for crossovers: what's the point? Yeah it'd be great to have Clark Kent meet Harry Potter or Luke Skywalker, but what would they do? -----signature----- Darth Hipster--Vader becomes a hippie!: http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=27316525&brd=10476 Tu ne cede malis--Do not give in to evil, but procede against it ever more boldly. UMass-Amherst class of 2011!
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G__Anakin Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 11/10/06 3:29pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion
	Hi, I'm writing a crossover. Do you all have any tips to give? -----signature----- Master to tahiriveilax - - - My fanfic - - - Fate of the Jedi - Abyss : http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/30246540/p1/ Yeah, I used the real title for the next book. Beware Omen Spoilers.
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Drabba_the_Hutt Registered: Feb '05	Date Posted: 11/10/06 3:47pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion
	What type of crossover and with what? -----signature----- Drabbles of the Hutt -- http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/25099446 (updated 11-22) Ultimate Challenge drabbles posted to http://z9.invisionfree.com/Jello_Anarchy (updated 11-22)
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G__Anakin Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 11/10/06 3:54pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion
	It's a cross-over with Xenosaga(an RPG video game) and Star Wars -----signature----- Master to tahiriveilax - - - My fanfic - - - Fate of the Jedi - Abyss : http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/30246540/p1/ Yeah, I used the real title for the next book. Beware Omen Spoilers.
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RK_Striker_JK_5 Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 11/11/06 1:29pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion
	I've never read HP books or seen the movies, so I can't comment too much on that. I don't have too much of a problem with non-SW characters learning the Force, since it's generated by life itself. -----signature----- E-married to the wonderful DarthIshtar. Now also her Padawan. Member of the Y.J.K. Revolution Staring into the Darkness http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/27537567/p1/?23
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rebel_cheese Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 11/11/06 1:38pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion
	G__Anakin posted: It's a cross-over with Xenosaga(an RPG video game) and Star Wars I know zilch about Xenosaga but I can give you these general tips and encouragement: Make sure you know everything about the storyline and characters of the property you're crossing SW with. Make sure the explaination you use (AU, time-and-space warping, etc.) makes sense and doesn't come off hackneyed. Might want to check out Striker's cross-overs for decent examples. Expect any chapter to take days, perhaps over a week, to complete, if you want to write in any real detail (that's how long it takes for me, anyway). Fanfiction takes time and effort. Also, for those of us who have no idea of the source material (like me with Sailor Moon and Xenosaga) you might want to add a decent amount of background info about the universe you're crossing SW with, but make sure to blend it in well so you don't clutter up your narrative. Finally, have fun, and make sure you have the plot completely worked out before you start. I learned that lesson the hard way with my Lost Sword story. -----signature----- Padawan of princess_of_naboo E-married to the amazing padawanlost Member of Charon_Force The Incubus Cries: http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/30141520/p1/?18
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TigerofRobare Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 11/15/06 6:19pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion
	I suggest keeping everything as familiar as possible because a major downside to writing crossovers is that the reader has to be at least slightly familiar with the other universe, so reuse dialog from the movies that fits and (at least for a while) perhaps write the story from the SW characters' points of view. But mostly, I suggest this: Go with what you think works. It probably will. -----signature----- Darth Hipster--Vader becomes a hippie!: http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=27316525&brd=10476 Tu ne cede malis--Do not give in to evil, but procede against it ever more boldly. UMass-Amherst class of 2011!
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Riley_Martin Registered: Sep '06	Date Posted: 11/22/06 8:14pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion
	Any good Babylon 5 fics out there, the search function has failed me.
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lazykbys_left Registered: Feb '05	Date Posted: 11/23/06 3:43am Subject: RE:Crossover Index and Discussion [links: Babylon 5 crossovers]
	Riley_Martin: Any good Babylon 5 fics out there activates The Link Machine I can't vouch for the quality, but there's one in Beyond: Relative Insanity by Exploded-Nomad And one in Classic: Ally Against the Darkness by Isildur_42 You might find more if you search for B5 names. - lazy -----signature----- "You're like some kind of link machine." - rhonderoo It didn't stop being magic just because you found out how it was done. DARK SIDE FHTAGN lazykbys fanfic index (click and scroll dowwwn): http://boards.theforce.net/m/b1/17609715/r17736763
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Diamond_Revelation Registered: Feb '03	Date Posted: 11/23/06 9:18am Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion
	Its good to see so many people interested in Crossovers out there! G__Anakin when you get your story up and running - PM me the details and I will try and get it up on the index! On the topic of HP/SW crossovers, I don't have a problem with either HP characters being force sensitive or SW characters being able to do magic as long as it is explained well and the author doesn't just give the force to all wizards and vice versa, given the nature of both magic and the force this seems unlikely. -----signature----- Call me Diamond Retired Dark Lady of the JCC Crossover Index - http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=20456978&start=20463089
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Mar17swgirl Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 12/3/06 8:17am Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion - Date Edited: 12/3/06 8:35am (1 edits total) Edited By: Mar17swgirl
	Force vs. magic - that's a quite interesting topic to discuss, not only because of HP, but other fantasy fandoms. I've recently started writing a SW/Discworld crossover (not started posting it here, yet, you'll have to wait a bit, folks! ), and I've been thinking about that quite a bit. I would say that the Force is definitely magic of some sort, but more sort of natural - since the Force is created by all living things, it could be classified as a sort of natural magic. For example (if I may use the aforementioned Discworld), the "headology" used by the witches of Lancre is pretty much the same thing as the Jedi mind trick - it's basically meddling with other people's minds and how they think. EDIT: Come to think of it, I really should get my hands on The Science of Discworld and read it... -----signature----- "He was caught in Alicante with a sheep." "Flagrante, Chris, in flagrante." "Yeah... flagrante."
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Tev_Torbek Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 12/22/06 8:16am Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion
	Hi everyone, i'm working on a couple of stories and I'm new to this fan-fic portion of the boards. I'm in process of writing a Star Wars/ new Battlestar Galactica crossover, where my character, Jedi Master Tev Torbek, and a few of my friends characters (we're currently working on a fan film in Pueblo, and this my characters back story and his relationship with some of the other characters) are cataputed into the future (Ala Star Trek, you know, the jump that hits a mysterious worm hole) and meet's up with the remnants of the Colonial fleet and the Battlestar Galactica. The story line has evovled, I was originally going to do it shortly after the Galactica found the Pegasus, but after the start of the new season didn't think it would fit, so I decided to bring them in right at the end of of the 3rd episode of the new season. Literarly right after the cylons leave New Caprica. My characters are from the Clone Wars. We're basically is what is left of a task force sent by the council to liberate some planets from the Sepratist. The enemy's strength was grossly underestimated and we had our behinds handed to us. We started out with 5 of new Republic Star Destroyers (new as in ROTS ships, I don't remember their designations, the ARC-170s, and the Eta-2 Jedi Star Fighters) and end with only 2 and maybe 60% strength. Plus a few transports and medical frigate with evacuated civilians and lots of injured. I want to deal with Colonials paranoia (i.e. the human Cylon threat), humans never seeing alien races, humans never seeing or knowing of the Force, the Colonials desperately wanting the advanced technology (one of the major issues of the story is the Jedi wanting to help in way they can without giving up the technology to a less advanced race) and getting back to their own universe. When the Jedi do get back it's right in the middle of the event's in ROTS. Any help would be greatly appriciated. Please try and PM any questions, I don't get on here, this board that much as it is very confusing to me and I don't want to unintentionally step on any toes. Thank you. -----signature----- What the hell is an alluminum falcon? You must smell like feet wrapped in burnt bacon Who's give me a loan? You? You got an ATM on that torso lite brite?!?! Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O'Donell Fat! Rouge 35, reporting in.
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Earthknight Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 12/23/06 3:07pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index and Discussion
	I'm attempting to write my first crossover. It's a KH/SW crossover. I posted a trailer of it on the trailer thread. I must admit it's not easy fusing to franchises together but it is fun. I see that several great writers on here have made some very superbe crossovers. -----signature----- Master to jacensolofangirl2007 Our philosophy: We strive for a 100 in awesomeness. And if we get a 90, it's still cool. ~My Fanfiction Stories~ The Guardians of Light- http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=259245
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