Author Topic: Crossover Index and Discussion
lazykbys_left  1643 posts
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Date Posted: 9/16/05 5:48am Subject: RE:Crossover Index [new discussion topic?]
Sith-I-5, what Juliet316 meant is that you should take the story you mentioned and post in the appropriate fanfic forum (i.e., Beyond the Saga). We still wouldn't be able to specifically discuss your fic in this thread, but it would be included in the crossover index.

*looks at Sith-I-5's previous posts in this thread*

Hmm. Interesting that you used a non-SW character to save Chewie. Did you write other stories to deal with the loss, or just this crossover?


I'm going to try and broaden the topic by asking, What motivates you to write crossovers?

For the one I'm writing right now, it was simply reading someone else's crossover and thinking, "Hey, I want to do that!" . . . because I am very easily influenced. grin

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Sith-I-5  5699 posts
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Date Posted: 9/16/05 6:36am Subject: RE: Crossover Index - Date Edited: 9/16/05 6:46am (4 edits total) Edited By: JadeSolo
lazykbys_left, thank you very much for your help.

I may have to re-type the Chewie-saving story in order to repost it, as I believe I had it printed in the British SW Delta Source magazine.

Did you write other stories to deal with the loss, or just this crossover?

I did a vitriolic article on how ungrateful the little ******* was for leaving Chewie behind, since he had been protecting the boy's family for ages, and included suggestions for getting the Wookiee onto the 'Falcon if you cannot land: "..use the freight-loading tractor beams; IT'S A FREIGHTER FOR FRAG'S SAKE!".

I also did at least two stories attacking Anakin himself. In my favourite, a crack commando unit of that little bat-faced creature from the Mos Eisley cantina kidnapped the Wookiee-slayer, and he awoke staked face-down on the ground on Coruscant's Botanical Skygarden skyhook at nighttime, numb beneath the waist, trousers around his knees, the hilt of an humming blue-bladed lightsabre pushed into his butt - I was upset, you understand? - and a paper message was under his face saying "Chewie sends his best."

Edited for profanity.

 

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Healer_Leona  36857 posts
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Date Posted: 9/16/05 6:39am Subject: RE: Crossover Index
I think discussion of Crossovers would be fine here as well. Perhaps Diamond Revelation can edit the title bar to reflect that discussion is welcome.

I would hasten to remind all users to remember that being polite is not just courtesy, it is an expectation of the boards.

Sith-I-5,, while discussion and inclusion of a non TF.N fic to the Index would not be allowed, I would highly recommend that you post your crossover to the Beyond The Saga (provided it does adhere to the Fan Fiction FAQ'S .

It does sound fascinating.

 

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Drabbo_Fett  1764 posts
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Date Posted: 9/16/05 8:38am Subject: RE: Crossover Index
What motivates you to write crossovers?

Mostly, it comes down to getting an idea. Particularly with drabbles, I get an idea, think it'd be fun, and (if I can find the time) I type it out.

If you're looking for practical advice for coming up with crossover ideas, I guess I can say to be willing to think laterally and to immerse yourself in a lot of different media properties (movies, TV shows, books, and more).

 

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Healer_Leona  36857 posts
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Date Posted: 9/16/05 9:08am Subject: RE: Crossover Index
Drabbo posted:
I guess I can say to be willing to think laterally and to immerse yourself in a lot of different media properties (movies, TV shows, books, and more).




Oh sure, you make it sound easy. But then you have a power I don't understand, and could never have. grin grin

 

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Sith-I-5  5699 posts
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Date Posted: 9/16/05 10:44am Subject: RE: Crossover Index
Just have two properties, eg. Angel, SW, that you know a lot about, and can be neutral with (in my opinion), then throw them together.

 

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RK_Striker_JK_5  20162 posts
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Date Posted: 9/16/05 1:02pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index
This is why I write crossovers: For the challenge.

Seriously, no other genre of fanfic has such extremes in how good they are. Crossovers are either really, really good or they stink. Almost no middle ground.

So, it's a challenge to write them. Plus, it's kinda neat throwing the GFFA folk into unfamiliar situations and having them interact with other people.

 

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VadersMistress  11594 posts
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Date Posted: 9/16/05 3:26pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index
I'm too easily influenced with crossovers. I see something that reflects the trials and tribulations of Star Wars and I have to write it. Or if it's something that is completely opposite, I go with what would confuse people the most. tongue

 

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Sith-I-5  5699 posts
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Date Posted: 9/19/05 3:35am Subject: RE: Crossover Index - Date Edited: 9/19/05 7:51am (2 edits total) Edited By: Sith-I-5
Off the top of my head, I would say there are at least two distinct types of crossovers for Star Wars. There may be more, but I have only encountered two.

Oh yes, I'm a particular fan of anything Star Wars versus Star Trek, which in its simplest form is like rivalry between soccer club supporters.

Crossover Style One - full scale environment versus environment.
Everything including the kitchen sink from SW interacting against the world and his wife from Star Trek. Star Destroyer versus the Enterprise.

Crossover Style One - individual.
One character that you know and love from one genre, plucked and placed into new genre. If you know about how they react to situations, these can be easy to write, and less likely to alienate readers.

And, can I just say doh! , didn't occur to me that the story list above were links to crossover stories. Definitely checking some of them out!


Okay, finished re-typing my Angel/SW crossover. We Help The Hopeless

 

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RK_Striker_JK_5  20162 posts
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Date Posted: 9/21/05 4:07pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index
Sith-I-5 posted:
Off the top of my head, I would say there are at least two distinct types of crossovers for Star Wars. There may be more, but I have only encountered two.

Oh yes, I'm a particular fan of anything Star Wars versus Star Trek, which in its simplest form is like rivalry between soccer club supporters.

Crossover Style One - full scale environment versus environment.
Everything including the kitchen sink from SW interacting against the world and his wife from Star Trek. Star Destroyer versus the Enterprise.

Crossover Style One - individual.
One character that you know and love from one genre, plucked and placed into new genre. If you know about how they react to situations, these can be easy to write, and less likely to alienate readers.

And, can I just say doh! , didn't occur to me that the story list above were links to crossover stories. Definitely checking some of them out!


Okay, finished re-typing my Angel/SW crossover. We Help The Hopeless


I'm a fan of Star Trek and Star Wars crossovers, but not having them fight it out. Honestly, it's been done to death. Having them sit down and talk, however...

I mostly do the latter style of crossovers. It's more fun that way.

 

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Sith-I-5  5699 posts
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Date Posted: 9/23/05 3:17am Subject: RE: Crossover Index
So what do your SW/ST crossovers talk about?

One of my stories featured a paragraph-long crossover prologue, long enough for a Blockade Runner crew to deliver the people of the USS Voyager back to their Alpha Quadrant, in return for one little admission from Captain Janeway.


The Rodian gestured out the port and twisted his snout up at her.
"I held up my part of the deal. Now you do yours."

Janeway glanced down at him. "Are you sure this is all you want? You've pulled off the first interdimensional rescue mission in the Federation's history, after all. We could offer you an exchange of technologies, knowledge of each other's cultures; we have so much to offer each other."

"Quit stalling lady."

She smiled and gave a resigned sigh. "Okay. Your hyperdrive beats the **-"

"Stang." He corrected calmly.

"I'm sorry. Your hyperdrive beats the stang out of our warp drive. Happy now?"

"Ecstatic." Prad jerked a suckered digit at the closed lift-tube behind them. "Now get the frag off my ship."


You mean like that?

 

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Date Posted: 9/23/05 9:56am Subject: RE: Crossover Index
I always seem to end up doing crossovers! My latest idea is (Literary) James Bond meeting someone (not sure who) c.1981-3, mainly so I can get his car at the time in! And send Bond to Lancashire too.....oh yes....that's about all I've worked out so far.....

 

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RK_Striker_JK_5  20162 posts
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Date Posted: 9/23/05 3:29pm Subject: RE: Crossover Index
Sith-I-5 posted:
So what do your SW/ST crossovers talk about?

One of my stories featured a paragraph-long crossover prologue, long enough for a Blockade Runner crew to deliver the people of the USS Voyager back to their Alpha Quadrant, in return for one little admission from Captain Janeway.


The Rodian gestured out the port and twisted his snout up at her.
"I held up my part of the deal. Now you do yours."

Janeway glanced down at him. "Are you sure this is all you want? You've pulled off the first interdimensional rescue mission in the Federation's history, after all. We could offer you an exchange of technologies, knowledge of each other's cultures; we have so much to offer each other."

"Quit stalling lady."

She smiled and gave a resigned sigh. "Okay. Your hyperdrive beats the **-"

"Stang." He corrected calmly.

"I'm sorry. Your hyperdrive beats the stang out of our warp drive. Happy now?"

"Ecstatic." Prad jerked a suckered digit at the closed lift-tube behind them. "Now get the frag off my ship."


You mean like that?


First off, that was pretty cool.

Second off, I meant like this, actually:

He was dead. Of that much, he was certain.

James T. Kirk held up his hands, or at least the spiritual equivalent. They were translucent, and had an odd blue tinge to them. He felt, in a paradoxical way, more alive than he ever had before.

He looked up just in time to see that Starfleet captain from the future. "Jean-Luc!" He yelled. "I'm not dead." He paused. "I can't be dead. I was supposed to die alone."

Just ahead, Jean-Luc Picard, captain of the late starship Enterprise, pulled a corpse out of a twisted metal framework. Kirk walked up to him and peered over his shoulder. No emotion was visible on his face as he stared into his own lifeless eyes.

Jean-Luc closed his eyes and made the sign of the cross. Merde. I'm sorry, Jim. I should have been able to defeat Soran and… A tear ran down his cheek as he gathered up Jim's body. "I will see you get a proper burial. It's the least I can do." Jean-Luc began walking straight towards Jim, who was only mildly surprised when the captain passed right through him.

Jim shivered at the experience. "I don't like that."

"It's not so bad, once you get used to it."

Jim spun around and instantly shifted into a standard Starfleet defensive stance. After about half a second, he remembered his intangibility.

"Who…are you?" He asked as he looked at the man. Like Jim, his body had a blue tinge to it and was translucent. Unlike Jim, who wore his Starfleet uniform, he wore a simple gray shirt, white pants and a brown robe. His face was partially obscured by a hood. Jim walked up to him. "My name is James T. Kirk, late of the starship Enterprise. I ask again: who are you?"

The man pulled down the hood. "I am to be your guide into what comes next. It will be confusing and perhaps a little frightening, but I can assure you it will be worth it in the end." The man's blue eyes shone with amusement as he spoke the next words. "Consider it the true 'final frontier'."

Jim turned around slowly and looked up. By now Jean-Luc was halfway up the mountain. "A friend of mine once said that I can take death, and turn it into a fighting chance." He shrugged his shoulders. "I guess my chances were all used up." He looked at the man. "So, what force sent you here, the angels or the devils?"

A low chuckle escaped from the man's lips. "I wouldn't call all of them angels, but it is a force of the light that sent me." He walked up to Jim and, much to his surprise, placed a hand on Jim's shoulder. "You have done much good, James T. Kirk. It's now time for you to rest. Let the burden of saving the galaxy fall onto the next generation's shoulders." For a second, he hesitated. Then a thought struck him. I'm dead. What good can come from hanging around this plane of existence when there's a new one just waiting? "All right, lead the way Mr.…" He hesitated as a look of confusion swept his face. "By the way, what's your name?"

The man laughed. "I apologize." He bowed in a slightly exaggerated manner. "I am Obi-Wan Kenobi, but you can call me Ben." Ben put his arm around Jim's shoulders as the two walked off into the light. "Oh, Ben?"

"Yes?"

"Call me Jim."

 

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Sith-I-5  5699 posts
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Date Posted: 9/24/05 1:53am Subject: RE: Crossover Index - Date Edited: 9/24/05 2:45am (1 edits total) Edited By: Sith-I-5
RK_Striker_JK_5, that was very good! You definitely have a feel for James T. Kirk. It felt like Classic Star Trek is your main fandom too.

Coincidentally, instead of going with the 'Calamari Evac' SW/ST excerpt, I had originally planned to make a point using the Sailor Senshu story (not read it) that I spotted on the Beyond the Saga board, and from looking at your sig, that is one of yours!

 

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Diamond_Revelation  919 posts
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Date Posted: 9/24/05 6:38am Subject: RE: Crossover Index - Date Edited: 9/24/05 6:40am (1 edits total) Edited By: Diamond_Revelation
Ok Firstly many apologies for my lack of input in this up to now! I unfortunatly was very ill in hospital over the summer and then ended up being rather busy moving back to uni!

Secondly - I think its great that you want to discuss crossovers, I always got the impression that people weren't really that interested.

I will edit the title of the thread in a minute and will try and post some more stories today as well!

 

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