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TFN_Archive_Sock Title: TFN Archive Editors and Reviewer Sock Registered: Sep '07	Date Posted: 9/10/07 12:04pm Subject: The Official TFN Archive Thread: Service disruption 5/14 - Date Edited: 5/14 5:14pm (22 edits total) Edited By: TFN_Archive_Sock
	Welcome to the Official Thread for TheForce.Net's Fan Fiction Archive! This is where you can post questions, meet the editors and reviewers in an informal environment, see Archive updates, and participate in Archive-related discussions! Let's get started. You might be wondering: What is the Archive? The Archive is a juried archive of selected Star Wars fanfic. Unlike fics posted on the JC and other sites, stories submitted to the Archive must undergo a reviewing process to assure that they are of the highest caliber possible, both technically and creatively. We like to boast that the Archive holds some of the best fic available on the web. How is the Archive related to the JC? Both sites fall under the banner of TheForce.Net, but are not completely connected. In 2001, TF.N decided that, like fan art and films, fan fiction deserved a special section of the site. They recruited a number of prominent JC ficcers to help the project, as JC fanfic was already widely popular. Since then, many authors have been encouraged to post and have posted at both. However, neither takes responsibility for the other, and they each follow different rules and mandates. How do I join? Is my JC account linked to the Archive? You will need to sign up with a contributor account. You can use your JC alias or sign up with a completely new name. With an account you can not only submit your fics, but also leave signed feedback on other people's stories, sign up for the beta-readers' email list, or apply to become a reviewer (we're always looking for fresh faces!) . Where can I find more information? Well, you can ask us here in this thread But if you don't want to, there are a few places you can check if you have a question or are curious about Archive practices and procedures: The Official Archive FAQ: Basic information about the Archive. Guidelines: This official guide will tell you acceptable file formats for submission, how to rate your story, and what we're looking for, in general, in a submitted fic. Unofficial TFN Fanfic Archive FAQ (lovingly entitled UFAQ by the staff): This important article should answer pretty much anything you could think to ask, and some things you don't! Rejected!: LLL's article on being rejected by the Archive. Insight into what we mean when we feel we can't archive your fic. In sum: we still love you Archive Articles: Some authors have written other helpful articles on everything from grammar to OCs. What is this thread for? Communication: We're all dedicated fanfic enthusiasts, and many of us are writers ourselves. We enjoy reading the fics authors submit, but the nature of the submission process often leaves us unable to speak to the authors on a one-on-one basis. Here we can change that. We're always around to answer questions from an author at any stage of the submission process and clarify any questions or concerns about the Archive in general. In between questions, we'll post notices of official updates. The Archive is updated roughly once every month, but is always dependent on how many fics are ready to be archived. Rather than having to continuously check the main page for updates, you can simply look at notices posted here. Occasionally the Archive hosts a poll. Here will be the place you can discuss what you've voted for and why. What is this thread not for? Asking the archival status of a particular fic. If you want to know where your fic is in the reviewing process or why it was rejected, please email or PM the staff (contact info below). We respect author privacy to the utmost, and will never discuss particular fics in an open forum such as this, even if the author asks. Airing out specific grievances against the archive as a whole and/or certain reviewers. While we're open to criticism, please join any discussion with an open mind and keep your posts within the TOS by not attacking, baiting, or becoming personal. Who's flying this thing? The thread will be informally run by the entire review staff. The sock is accessible to and handled by all the editors (Herman Snerd, LLL, MariahJade2, and Pallas-Athena). Please refrain from sending any Archive-related private messages to the sock – contact the staff members directly instead. PMs relating to the running of this thread are fine, but be forewarned that the sock won't be logged into on a regular basis. For a more immediate response, please contact Pallas-Athena directly. So, welcome to the thread! We look forward to hearing from you, so post away! (or, alternatively, see the next post for staff info ) -----signature----- TheForce.Net's Fan Fiction Archive http://fanfic.theforce.net/
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TFN_Archive_Sock Title: TFN Archive Editors and Reviewer Sock Registered: Sep '07	Date Posted: 9/10/07 12:05pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread - Date Edited: 1/31 11:18pm (4 edits total) Edited By: TFN_Archive_Sock
	Archive Staff Contact id for email: 105 Editors The editors are responsible for keeping the Archive running. They HTML code and post accepted fics, read reviewers' notes on each fic submitted, mail out the rejection and acceptance letters, upload artwork, and edit contributor data. They also serve as tie-breakers if the two reviewers reviewing a fic disagree. They keep the site and the mailing lists free of spammers and trolls, create the polls, and keep the main page updated. Because of their status, they post under VIP red names on the JC. If you have a question about where your fic is in the process, the Archive in general, or have a more technical problem such as a lost password, they are the ones to contact. Herman Snerd Reviewer Since: March 2001 Editor Since: June 2001 Archive Contact Id: 34 Preferred Method of Contact: Carrier pigeon, but a PM works best with e-mail secondary. Pigeon third. Take Feedback Requests: Usually Feedback Policy: If I'm really busy I'll most likely forget about your request, so don't be afraid to poke at me a few times if necessary. About Me: I ventured into fanfiction one day when Community was boring me and I've regretted it ever since. I was immediately beset with a plot bunny and fumbled around for a few weeks doing beta work before getting the nerve to actually write the story. I've remained here in an almost permanent vegetative state ever since. Why I Joined the Archive: As I grew increasingly dissatisfied with the EU, I became more and more intrigued by the story ideas of my fellow Star Wars fans. Given the opportunity to help showcase a portion of these fan writings, I quickly volunteered. Everything after that is a bit of a blur. LLL Reviewer Since: March 2001 ... The Very Beginning. Although I did take a year and a half hiatus several years ago. Editor Since: January 2008 Archive Contact Id: 39 Preferred Method of Contact: I used to say use the contact ID, but the editor's list is so full of spam, I have a better chance of seeing your email if you send it directly to my email addy with some obvious story-related subject line typed in all caps. Seriously, the editor's email list is The Spam Graveyard. If you send an email there and don't get a response, don't worry, we may have missed it. Try sending it again! Take Feedback Requests: Yes. Feedback Policy: I have discovered that unless I do feedback as a full beta, it just doesn't work very well. I used to try to work from memory...with sometimes disastrous results. On longer stories, I generally print out a hard copy and do the beta right on the pages. On a very short story, I may not. Therefore, if you want feedback, check with me and make sure I don't already have your story printed out and marked up. If I don't, I'll ask you to please copy-paste your entire story into the body of an email and send it to me along with your snail mail address. I will print it out, do a full handwritten beta, and mail the story back to you. I know some people don't want to do this, but 1.) it's the way we work in my writers' group, 2.) I work much better on a hard copy than in front of the computer screen, and 3.) I am so pressed for time that if I don't take hard copies to work with me and review stories on my lunch break, Heaven knows when I'd get anything done. Why I Joined the Archive: I wanted there to be an archive somewhere in the fanfic universe with stories that were uniform in superior grammar and spelling, good ideas, great creativity, and good writing, because of the view I find out there that fan ficcers are crocks who can't write, or frustrated loners who are just acting out fantasies. I have been sneered at by professionals who feel that since we are "only" fans, we couldn't possibly write anything that deserves to receive payment or see the light of day. Therefore I look for work that I think competes with the published work in quality. I want this archive to prove that fans CAN write Star Wars!!! MariahJade2 Reviewer Since: June 2002 Editor Since: Sept. 2004 Archive Contact Id: : 1163 Preferred Method of Contact: PM or e-mail, but if you use e-mail it could end up in the junk mail so go back to pm. Take Feedback Requests: Yes Feedback Policy: Yes, feed me. I prefer recipes and sammiches and I’ll do my best to get back to you. Ask again, if you don’t hear from me when I’m backlogged. About Me: Stands: My name is Mariah and I am a Star wars nerd. Back in the day, I got my first computer and the first word I typed into a search engine was Star Wars. Little did I know this would end up changing my life. I soon found fan fic at TFN and my newest OCD when I got up the nerve to register and post on the fan fic boards. Eventually, I tried my own hand at writing fics. I’ve got three kids, am a cancer survivor and currently work for a major suburban metropolitan newspaper. Why I Joined the Archive: I was tricked! Actually, I really enjoy reading everyone’s stories and having the chance to give fan fic more exposure. Pallas-Athena Reviewer Since: December 2006 Editor Since: January 2008 Archive Contact Id: 553 Preferred Method of Contact: PM. I have hotmail, so please be forewarned that, if you send an email, it may accidentally get junked before reaching me. Take Feedback Requests: Yes Feedback Policy: Most often I like to simply tell authors my reason(s) for rejection, based off of my notes to the editors. I love, however, to work with authors to make corrections and will beta for re-submittal in certain circumstances, so please ask! About Me: I started writing A/P fic when I first joined the JC. Since then I've tried to branch out into things like OC fics and, most recently, Kotor fic. I've learned though, since joining the Archive, to read pretty much anything. In real life, I'm a student studying ... something (I change my mind constantly, you see ). Why I Joined the Archive: Like many ficcers, I was wary of the Archive for quite some time (damn rejections ), but after talking to some of the Archive people, I decided to give it another chance when I was asked to apply as a reviewer. I've really enjoyed, since then, being able to read some of the really great fics that have been submitted. But I especially love helping people to improve their writing and to better understand the Archive's processes. Reviewers The reviewers are responsible for reading and making decisions on fics that are submitted. While reviewing, they check each fic for technical proficiency and quality of writing. Once they reach a decision, they inform the editors in the form of a review. Jedi Trace Reviewer Since: February 2007 Archive Contact Id: 1269 Preferred Method of Contact: PM Take Feedback Requests: Yes Feedback Policy: I try to respond in a timely manner, but if you don’t hear from me within a week or so, PM me again. About Me: In 1977, my father took me to see this brand new movie called Star Wars and I’ve been hopelessly addicted ever since. I was a band geek in high school (clarinet and Field Commander), studied some classical voice and met my husband while performing in musical theatre. As an extension of that, we both love costuming and Cons. I have two daughters, both fangirls/costumers-in-training, and I'm a Cardiovascular ICU nurse. Why I Joined the Archive:Star Wars fiction is my passion and I love to analyze the craft of writing. I joined to support and promote the art of fan fiction. Luna_Nightshade Reviewer Since: November 2006 Archive Contact Id: 5848 Preferred Method of Contact: PM Take Feedback Requests: Yes Feedback Policy: I make an effort to respond back quickly, but depending on the day you pm me that may not necessarily be possible. If I don't respond within a week, pm me again. About Me: I'm a soon-to-graduate writing major. At different points in my career, I have worked as a journal editor, technical writer, teacher, web publisher, and... a security guard. I'm the poster child for the many things you can do with a liberal arts major as long as you prove you can write and speak with confidence--or feigned confidence. I've learned that in any form of communication, be it writing/speaking/art/etc., do it with absolute confidence and you will be heard. In other, more fun times--I love rowing and walking, and on an average day can happily spend 2 or so hours doing both. I love good vegetarian food but am still trying to master the fine art of the tofu. I can watch penguins at the zoo for hours and still giggle like a four-year-old when one jumps in the water. (Yes, Happy Feet is a guilty pleasure.) Um... I'm still afraid of the dark, I cry every time I watch The Patriot, and Alton Brown is my hero. Why I Joined the Archive:I joined to use what skills I have in real life to try to support a community that has been important to me. Nade_Naberrie Reviewer Since: October 2004 Archive Contact Id: 2468 Preferred Method of Contact: E-mail. I check it compulsively (about eight times a day), so that’s the quickest and most efficient way to get my attention. Take Feedback Requests: Absolutely! Feedback Policy: I’m an avid fanfic writer myself, so I know there’s nothing more valuable than detailed feedback. Back in my beta-ing days (that makes me sound old, ha), I was somewhat notorious for sending back “bleeding” stories, but please don’t be discouraged. I am more than happy to work with anyone whose story I’ve rejected. I can’t even count how many times there have been absolutely brilliant stories that I’ve had to reject very reluctantly for silly little mistakes, and with a bit of tweaking, they’d be Archive-ready. Moral of the story: please, just ask! I don't bite! About Me: I’m nineteen going on forty. DRL has been a pain in the rear lately – I’m a full time college student (English major) and a nanny for two little girls, so my life is ridiculously busy most of the time. My two loves are fanfic and Broadway. In my free time, if I’m not writing, I’m probably jumping around on my bed with a brush for a mic, belting a show tune. Geek, and proud of it. Why I Joined the Archive: I’m an editor at heart; I love sifting through pieces of writing to look at the technical and artistic aspects involved. It really says a lot about the author, and I find it fascinating. Plus... I love Star Wars, and I love well-crafted fanfic, so it seemed a natural choice. obaona Reviewer Since: Feb-Sept. 03, returned Feb. 07 Archive Contact Id: 1199 Preferred Method of Contact: PM. My email will sometimes get swamped and/or things get lost. Take Feedback Requests: Yes. Feedback Policy: If I don't reply, please poke me - I probably lost it to RL drama. I generally give my notes on the story from when I originally read it, including the story's problems and good points. About Me: I've written quite a lot of fanfic, and am in love with fanfic in general. I'm currently a college student, majoring in classics (Latin and Greek languages). And I scored Total Geek on the geek test, an accomplishment which, sadly, I take pride in. I also make livejournal icons and fanfic covers. Why I Joined the Archive: Thanks to the archive, I found fanfiction. Persephone_Kore Reviewer Since: February 2007 (newbie!) Archive Contact Id: 5911 Take Feedback Requests: Yes. Preferred Method of Contact: Contact form, above. You can PM me if you'd prefer -- it might be a little more reliable about delivery -- but I find email's somewhat easier for extended conversations. I don't think anything's been getting eaten, but my email's spam filter has occasionally gotten a little spontaneously excitable, so if you don't get a response for a while one way, try the opposite method. Feedback Policy: If you ask about a rejection, I'll try to let you know why I made my decision and, if possible, what I think would help. I'll elaborate further if asked, but I don't really beta very much except for a few close friends. (And I wouldn't be allowed to review their work anyway.) About Me: Um... I'm really, really bad at "about me" sections? OK, let's see. I'm twenty-seven, female, introvert, Christian, married, a recent Ph.D. in Biochemistry, somewhat unnerved by the prospect of organizing my future career, fond of reading, writing, beekeeping, and cross-stitch, and something of a multi-fandom roamer. I enjoyed the Star Wars movies as soon as I got over the somewhat unsettling first impression formed by dropping in during the scenes in Jabba's palace, went on a brief EU binge in high school but lost interest, and definitely enjoyed FernWithy's work whenever I ran into it, but I didn't really get into writing fanfic myself until I somehow went head over heels for Dooku and then for Scout early last year. This had to do with sabarte, Charmisjess, and my friend Alan who pointed me toward Sean Stewart's Yoda: Dark Rendezvous. Why I Joined the Archive: Um, I think it was partly an excess of enthusiasm after talking to Gabri_Jade. She got me over... not rejections, as I hadn't actually submitted anything when I first talked to her (and hadn't heard back about my first submission when I applied as a reviewer!) but feeling unwelcome after looking at the public face of the thing. And looking at the list of reviewers at the time, I felt I probably had a useful perspective and set of interests to contribute. Okay, basically, I wanted a chance to accept fics I enjoyed and thought were good, and a position of confidence from which I could encourage people to submit. That doesn't mean I can guarantee anything -- heck, I've rejected work that turned out to come from the review staff, so we can't even guarantee anything for our own stories -- but I can at least say that the editors have expressed some level of confidence in my ability to discern what suits the Archive. rhonderoo Reviewer Since: October 2004 Archive Contact Id: 2563 Preferred Method of Contact: Private Message Take Feedback Requests: Yes Feedback Policy: I try to answer as soon as I can, but with other duties on the site, it sometimes takes me a while. Please be patient with me. About Me: I’m a single mom and all around fangirl. I love the movies, the books, the comics and the games. Joined TFN in August of 2002 after AOTC renewed my love affair with Star Wars and Darth Vader. I started writing (very poorly written) fan fic in 2003, but later it became a way to relax and enjoy and add to the fandom. I don’t have as much time these days due to other things I do at TFN, but it remains my first love. Why I Joined the Archive: I wanted to give back to the place that got me through many a day waiting for ROTS. TKeira_Lea Reviewer Since: September 2005 Archive Contact Id: 3611 Preferred Method of Contact: PM Take Feedback Requests: Yes Feedback Policy: As a reviewer I feel feedback is important. In almost every case I will respond. Occasionally Darth Real Life prevails and time doesn’t permit me to supply feedback promptly. About Me: I’m a senior project manager for transportation design for an international infrastructure firm. What that really means is that I am a Registered Professional Engineer, who specializes in roadway and traffic signal design. For fun, I ride horses competitively in hunters and hunt seat equitation, train my willful Shelties and frustrate my poor husband with my lack of organizational skills. Why I Joined the Archive: The Archive is a great tool for finding quality work. I enjoy the process of finding good pieces of writing. Toni Reviewer Since: October 2005 Archive Contact Id: 4699 Preferred Method of Contact: email - It's constantly checked. Take Feedback Requests: Yes Feedback Policy: I like giving feedback and helping writers improve. I'm not too harsh and I've rejected fics that I think could get in with some editing. About Me: I'm a long time GFFA fan. I'm a part time librarian who's taking classes in child development. Am known as sweet and shy. Why I Joined the Archive: I wanted to be able to read an review stories involving my favorite characters. I've been impressed with the quality of a lot of the submissions. -----signature----- TheForce.Net's Fan Fiction Archive http://fanfic.theforce.net/
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TFN_Archive_Sock Title: TFN Archive Editors and Reviewer Sock Registered: Sep '07	Date Posted: 9/10/07 12:07pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread
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DarthIshtar Title: Former CR Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 9/10/07 12:13pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread
	I have a generalized question. What sort of waiting period is appropriate? -----signature----- "I'd hate to be misunderstood." "Does that happen often?" "Once in a blue lagoon." ~Ziva and Fornell, NCIS Tchaikovsky is my emo band.
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Pallas-Athena Title: TFN Fan Fiction Archive Editor Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 9/10/07 1:52pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread
	For what? A decision on a fic? That's informally two weeks. But, of course, that's going to vary depending on your fic's length and how many fics are waiting in the queue before it. Sometimes, people have gotten fics back within a few days, when they're really short. I would say that two weeks would be the average for a vignette 10-15 pages. Unfortunately, for longer fics (40+ pages), the wait can be much longer. This is not only due to the time it takes to read but also the fact that many reviewers will hesitate to claim something if they're unsure if they can read through it in a timely manner. One of the bigger unofficial no-nos is to sit on a fic. So we let the fic stay unclaimed in hopes that someone will have the time to read it quicker than we could. So, for my advice, I would say feel free to bug us after two weeks on a vignette and wait a little longer on longer stuff (maybe a week for every ten pages?). Also keep an eye on your author statistics. That will show you how many reviewers are reviewing your fic at the moment. If it goes from being unclaimed to claimed, then your fic's moving along nicely. If your fic has been claimed for an unreasonable amount of time yet still no decision, you really ought to contact us, because that means that someone's sitting on it. It may be perfectly unintentional, like the reviewer was unexpectedly swamped with DRL. In any event, your note will serve as a reminder that the reviewer either get to reviewing or unclaim it, so that someone else can do it. -----signature----- "... you're really wise. I mean that in a totally non-sarcastic way." -obaona Do you ever get bored and find yourself scrolling down a thread just to read the signatures?
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obaona Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 9/10/07 2:15pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread - Date Edited: 9/10/07 2:28pm (1 edits total) Edited By: obaona
	Pallas-Athena is quick like the wind, posting as I was composing. Welcome to the thread, Ish. -----signature----- atty is the bestest! MS Word is designed by sadists with masochists in mind. - teh atty
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DarthIshtar Title: Former CR Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 9/10/07 2:24pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread
	I am asking because I may be submitting a 1000-page epic very soon and wanted to know if there was a "standard period." -----signature----- "I'd hate to be misunderstood." "Does that happen often?" "Once in a blue lagoon." ~Ziva and Fornell, NCIS Tchaikovsky is my emo band.
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Jaya Solo Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 9/10/07 2:29pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread
	My experience was that I waited a good 3-4 months before I heard the final word on one of my stories. Hopefully it's better now than last year... -----signature----- Padawans: DreamingIce, LostJedi26 Restoring Order: http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/24000645 Green Eyes 4: http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=24195159 Palpatine's Blog: http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/25399668
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DarthIshtar Title: Former CR Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 9/10/07 2:33pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread
	Well, I've seen it vary wildly, so was curious if there's a point at which you start asking if they're really going to finish reviewing, such as 4 months for a 3-page vignette. -----signature----- "I'd hate to be misunderstood." "Does that happen often?" "Once in a blue lagoon." ~Ziva and Fornell, NCIS Tchaikovsky is my emo band.
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obaona Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 9/10/07 2:49pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread
	Ah, yes - epics definitely take a while, I know that from both sides (reviewing and submitting). I think we have gotten better about getting fics through the process - right now, our queue is virtually empty. Only the editors know what point in the process all the stories are at, though. Four months for a three page vignette is definitely too long. At that point, you should bug one of the editors - they're the only ones who can see everything (which reviewer has/hasn't made a decision, splits, etc). Alas, we're human and sometimes let things slide by accident. I noticed when we were filling out our bios that pretty much everyone said to poke if they didn't reply to requests by authors, though - so definitely don't be afraid to poke and ask questions about your fic. Getting things back to the authors in a reasonable time is something that we know is an important issue, and we're always working on and asking ourselves 'how are we doing?'. Sometimes, though (especially for epics) it just takes longer - there's more to consider in reviewing than when just reading for enjoyment, and that especially makes a difference in reviewing epics. -----signature----- atty is the bestest! MS Word is designed by sadists with masochists in mind. - teh atty
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Pallas-Athena Title: TFN Fan Fiction Archive Editor Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 9/10/07 3:18pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread
	What oba said I would add that there can be a definite difference in time depending on a fic's quality. Some are easily decided while others blur the line. Some reviewers (newbies especially) may not comfortable in making a decision. Obviously this is exemplified by fics going into splits, which take even longer. So in some cases, no news can be good news. I am asking because I may be submitting a 1000-page epic very soon and wanted to know if there was a "standard period." I think LLL now has the longest story ever accepted. Perhaps she can share how long it took (plus, fics written by reviewers often take doubly long). To give an honest opinion, something that long would probably take up to a year (completely reasonable if, on average, 10 pages come back in two weeks). It sort of sucks, but you have to remember that reviewers are reading critically and usually taking notes. It can take as long as a beta. I don't really have to tell you this, Ish, because you're an accomplished writer, but just as a more general note to those thinking of submitting epics: make sure you have had a thorough beta. I've read epics that have had to be rejected for silly little things like pov shifts and grammar. Looking at how much time the author has put into the fic and how much time they have to wait for us to review it, it's something that I personally hate seeing. -----signature----- "... you're really wise. I mean that in a totally non-sarcastic way." -obaona Do you ever get bored and find yourself scrolling down a thread just to read the signatures?
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dianethx Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 9/10/07 3:20pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread
	How much leeway do you give mistakes in a story? Is an epic more likely to be given some slack than a short story or vignette? I know POV changes are usually a reason for rejection but how much? Would an epic with some POV changes be more likely to be accepted than a vignette or doesn't it matter? -----signature----- Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 4/20/08 For love of a son - http://boards.theforce.net/bts/b1/26520253/ updated 7/23/07 Freeze frame - http://boards.theforce.net/ts/b10476/27820434 Master to jedidas3, Qui-GonJinn Impeach Bush!
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ardavenport Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 9/10/07 3:34pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread
	Hmmmmm, this is odd, but if I click on the link in this part of the first post (the unofficial FAQ): Unofficial TFN Fanfic Archive FAQ (lovingly entitled UFAQ by the staff): This important article should answer pretty much anything you could think to ask, and some things you don't! [/li] I get an error message: The system cannot find the file specified. But if I paste the actual link into my browser: http://fanfic.theforce.net/articles.asp?action=view&ID=37 I get the unofficial FAQ page. Actually, I have run into this problem before with the Archive. I click on a link on an Archive page and get an error message. But if I have that link bookmarked, I might still be able to get to it. Loose links? -----signature----- Links to all fics -- http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=25405090&brd=10304&start=26223917 The Heart of the Jedi -- http://boards.theforce.net/b/b1/26013327 ---- Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, JA and everything you wanted to know about lightsabers
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DarthIshtar Title: Former CR Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 9/10/07 3:45pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread
	Thanks for the advice. I have a very picky beta. -----signature----- "I'd hate to be misunderstood." "Does that happen often?" "Once in a blue lagoon." ~Ziva and Fornell, NCIS Tchaikovsky is my emo band.
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Persephone_Kore Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 9/10/07 3:50pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread
	That can really vary. An epic will probably get away with having a higher number of mistakes in it than a vignette simply because that boils down to a lower proportion of problems. Ten typos and two POV wobbles in a hundred thousand words will seem less egregious than ten typos and two POV wobbles in one thousand words. On the other hand, it's possible for a problem to occur once and look trivial in a vignette, but become really, really prominent if repeated over the course of an epic. I'm still writhing over having misspelled "Millennium" in one very short fic, though luckily I caught it before it was actually put up. But if I'd referred to the "Millenium Falcon" five times in five thousand words, I imagine the story would have been rejected. There's also the likelihood that a vignette will rely proportionately more on wordcraft. You can develop things in an epic that can only be hinted at in a vignette, but you can do things in a vignette that would drive both author and reader insane if extended over the course of an epic. So the aspects of writing that seem to be most essential to a particular story are the ones that are likely to get a lot of weight in reviewing. If your epic's plot and overall effect depend heavily on what specific characters know and perceive, even a few little POV wobbles will detract a lot more than a similar number of unsignaled shifts in a story where subjectivity is less of a factor. -----signature----- Behind a Waterfall, Before the Pyre: http://boards.theforce.net/f/b1/27572863 Look Out Toward Space: http://boards.theforce.net/f/b1/27553828 Gnarltree: http://boards.theforce.net/f/b1/25694713 Rescreatu: http://www.rescreatu.com?refer=6559
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Pallas-Athena Title: TFN Fan Fiction Archive Editor Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 9/10/07 3:52pm Subject: RE: The Official TFN Archive Thread - Date Edited: 9/10/07 3:58pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Pallas-Athena
	The most simplistic answer to that is that it's a percent correct sort of thing. A 100 page epic that has one error per page will be treated the same way as 2 page vignette with one error per page. What that treatment is is a more complicated matter. It depends on who gets your fic and the nature of the mistake. I, for example, find myself looking at bad grammar as a sign of deeper underlining problems with the fic. So if there's a bad error in the first sentence of a fic, my expectations lower immensely. Chances are, if an author can't tell the difference between it's/its, she is not going to understand the nature of plot structure. I also mark in my mind a distinction between error and typo. If the author writes through instead of though, but uses them correctly elsewhere, I let it slide. But if Jedis is the plural for Jedi throughout the fic, it's a problem (especially when it is with SW vocabulary, as it shows an unfamiliarity with the fandom). In epics, however, problems like that can run through the fics, and become repetitive. If you say Jedis once in your two page vig, it can be quickly fixed before archiving. But if you use Jedis 50 times in your 100 page fic, it is unacceptable. As for POV, it's hard to say. Unless the slips are really minute and hard to see (or somehow stylistic), it's unlikely that either an epic or vig with just a few would get in. The archive is pretty picky about this. And because, unlike grammar, POV mistakes are not definite or easily repairable, we can't just give out an acceptance and ask you to fix it. Edit: PK stole ma thunder! -----signature----- "... you're really wise. I mean that in a totally non-sarcastic way." -obaona Do you ever get bored and find yourself scrolling down a thread just to read the signatures?
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