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A Miscellany of Characters: The Crossover Database/New Challenge (6/21); Now Disc. Star Trek X-overs
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Darth_Marrs
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12/12/07 1:10pm
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RE: A Miscellany of Characters: The Crossover Database * What Makes a Great Crossover? + New Challe
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LadyLunas posted:
Serious ones, on the other hand, completely and utterly fail if the rules of both fandoms are not taken into consideration, whether that's in terms of in-'verse setting, characterization, and even the 'how' the plot happens. And I've found the best crossovers have each character put into the new world have something important that relates to the plot. It's relevant and necessary that they are there, not just because some author decided to mash two 'verses together on a whim. There has to be a reason, and the crossed character is the answer to the question.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I'll admit that I'm not much of a reader of the silly ones, because, well, I have no sense of humor. I also lie a lot, but I'm not sure that's relevent. But if you're going to mix two franchises, you have to RESPECT both franchises. Respect their rules and respect the characters. Having a Star Destroyer show up and blow up the Enterprise isn't going to be much of a story. If you're going to mix two franchises, it should be because you love both equally, and the story you want to tell demands elements from both. Even more than characters, more than rules, though, there has to be story. IF you don't have a story, then why write it at all?
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MsLanna
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12/13/07 2:29am
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RE: A Miscellany of Characters: The Crossover Database * What Makes a Great Crossover? + New Challe
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Darth_Marrs posted:
IF you don't have a story, then why write it at all?
What I ask myself. If I ever find an answer, I'll telly ou, Usually, I think, I just hope a story will turn up while I'm dallying around. 
I think it would be much easier, if I didn't like silly stuff so much and had some serious franchise to cross over with. 
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brodiew
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12/13/07 12:26pm
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That challenge is hard. Then again, challenge doesn't mean easy.
**headdesk**
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CrossoverIndex
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12/28/07 7:52pm
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RE: A Miscellany of Characters: The Crossover Database * What Makes a Great Crossover? + 2nd Challe
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New Crossovers Added to Index (As of December 28, 2007)
jedi_of_ennth's Waiting on Gravity, Heartbreak Hotel and Space Pirate Boogie.
We are always looking for new crossovers, so if you see one on the boards or post a new one, let us know! 
brodiew -- Nothing wrong with a hard challenge.  After all, what's the point of an "easy" challenge?
If it makes you feel better, the next one will be easier.
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lazykbys_left
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12/29/07 5:57am
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RE: A Miscellany of Characters: The Crossover Database　[introduction / good x-over criteria]
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1. Who are you? Introduce yourself!
The name's lazykbys_left. Call me "lazy", please.
2. Why did you click on this thread?
Er . . . because it's there? I liked the discussions in the previous thread and am looking forward to thought-provoking ones in this new incarnation, too.
3. Do you like crossovers, do you hate them, or do you find them "bleh" and have no real opinion about them?
I feel the same way about crossovers as I do AUs, 'ships, missing scenes, songfics, slash, and so on and so forth. I like the ones I like and don't like the ones I don't.
4. If you could write a crossover, what would it be? What fandom(s) would you choose and what Star Wars era would it be set in?
It probably wouldn't be what you'd expect. For example, I have the following ideas for Star Trek crossovers:
- An Imperial Star Destroyer with an all-OC crew is trapped in the Deep Core. A Starfleet vessel (also with all OCs) finds itself transported back in time to the GFFA. Both just want to go back home.
- The USS Enterprise (NCC-1701A) finds itself in the middle of the Clone Wars. McCoy discovers he is Force-sensitive after a bota experience and must resist the Dark Side when it urges him to personally put an end to the fighting.
- When a derelict Super Star Destroyer is found at the edge of the Alpha quadrant, it's up to [insert name and/or starship] to figure out what happened to the crew.
And, just for kicks, what would you title it?
Beats me. I suck at titles.
5. What's your favourite crossover you've read?
To be honest, I haven't read that many. But of those, I liked VaderLVR64's Tatooine Messiah best.
What makes a good crossover? What elements need to be present?
I doubt I've read enough to have a valid opinion, but I would say the criteria for good crossovers are pretty much the same as any other sort of fiction. Drama, action, characterization, humor . . . and maybe a cowbell or two.
How do you deal with characterizations and character interactions?
The way I do with my other fics: write them the way I see them in my mind and hope like heck my readers agree.
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Juliet316
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Date Posted:
12/30/07 8:41pm
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lazykbys_left posted:
- The USS Enterprise (NCC-1701A) finds itself in the middle of the Clone Wars. McCoy discovers he is Force-sensitive after a bota experience and must resist the Dark Side when it urges him to personally put an end to the fighting.
- lazy
I would actually like to see that. I could see it being in line with McCoy's nature.
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brodiew
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12/31/07 7:59am
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Juliet316 posted:
lazykbys_left posted:
- The USS Enterprise (NCC-1701A) finds itself in the middle of the Clone Wars. McCoy discovers he is Force-sensitive after a bota experience and must resist the Dark Side when it urges him to personally put an end to the fighting.
- lazy
I would actually like to see that. I could see it being in line with McCoy's nature.
Agreed. This is a great bunny, lazy.
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Jade_Max
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A great bunny indeed!
another cross over for this thread Unleashed! - it's a ST/SW cross.
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brodiew
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Is there a new challenge in the offing for this thread? The last one made my head hhurt from its complexities.
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Ok, I've started a new crossover. It's a House, M.D./SW fic. Everybody Lies
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brodiew posted:
Is there a new challenge in the offing for this thread? The last one made my head hhurt from its complexities.
Neither Diamond nor I will be around much for a bit (I'll probably be back full-time in June -- I've got way too much stuff going on right now with school and everything to spend time on the boards), but brodie, if you or anyone else has a crossover related challenge you want to try, feel free to announce it here. I'll pop in on occasion, I just don't have as much time to do proper discussion-running and challenge-throwing as I wanted to.
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LadyLunas
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Well, it's been a while. Since Idrelle and Diamond are out at the moment, I thought I might take them up on their offer and offer a discussion question.
What, for you, is the hardest part of writing a crossover? What is the easiest?
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Juliet316
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LadyLunas posted:
Well, it's been a while. Since Idrelle and Diamond are out at the moment, I thought I might take them up on their offer and offer a discussion question.
What, for you, is the hardest part of writing a crossover? What is the easiest?
That's an easy question for me. The easiest is coming up with the idea in the first place. The Hardest? Trying to make it work without it seeming preposterous.
Sometimes it's hard. Star Wars crossovers especially since it's in a "Galaxy far, far, away." Unless it's another Sci - Fi fandom like Star Trek or a show that relies heavily on the magical side of the supernatural, like Buffy, or Charmed (or to a certain extent Sailor Moon), then crossovers are extremely hard to make a believable, remotely plausible crossover with Star Wars work. The best crosses in my opinion are the ones that are able to do that, like Striker's Sailor Moon crossover epic, his Decepticous Rex (Transformers), Star Wars crossover and Darth Marr's Ori Duology.
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Diamond_Revelation
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Thanks for starting another thread up LadyLunas I can't actually comment on this one as I am not a very good writer, I am more of a reader only 
Like Idrelle said I find it difficult to get the time to drop in and contribute as much as I'd like but it's great to see people adding new stories all the time and getting involved in the challenges and discussions. I am off to read some of the new stories now!!
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3/15 6:49pm
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I apologize, again, for being absent. I am checking the sock now for any new stories sent to it and will be updating the Index when that happens. I'm back on the boards now, but am still rather busy. Thanks a lot, LadyLunas, for the discussion topic! I'll get around to answering it when I'm not quite as exhausted as I am right now.
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