LadyLunas posted:

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A fair portion of the budget would probably go to utilities (power, sewage, water, etc.). One could even stretch that to include food (Coruscant being what it is), even if the Jedi do try to make themselves as self-sufficient as possible. The other parts would be Temple upkeep, service to the small fleet of ships they have, and necessary goods (clothing, etc.). I don't think the Jedi would draw a salary, but they could possibly have a very small yearly stipend determined by rank.

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LadyLunas posted:

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There's probably also a section of the budget (either Senate or Jedi, haven't been able to figure out which) set aside to fund the missions. Qui-Gon had a credit amount issued to him in TPM. Probably the Republic, as the Jedi work under that name. But would that be from the Judicial Department budget, then? Or the Senate, as that's who the Order appears to be directly answering to in RotS.

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LadyLunas posted:

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As for suspicions of and about Jedi, I would think it varies planet to plant and person to person. Those people who have come in contact with Jedi, who have been affected positively in some manner, would be far more willing to accept them. People impacted negatively, as well as those who have only heard the stories, would be far more skeptical. It's all perspectives and prejudices. What is the truth?

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ardavenport posted:

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Well, maybe the Jedi aren't quite 'living it up' at the Temple. There are probably a lot of things that make the Jedi lifestyle less appealing to the general public no matter how lavish the Temple looks.

- no relationships allowed
- no parties
- no possessions
- no intoxicants (legal or illegal)
- only intellectual or quiet hobbies allowed, excluding violent martial arts
- no furniture (lots of space in the Temple, but they seem to like big empty spaces)

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ardavenport posted:

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I think that there are probably a lot of misconceptions about Jedi, most of them harmless, but a few of them exaggerated. Padme, an educated senator, thought that Jedi were 'not allowed to love' which is a bit of a simplification, but does make me think that even people who work in proximity of Jedi don't really understand them.

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Darthbane2007 posted:

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Which brings me to my next question: How do Jedi, particular of the old republic, do for fun? Did the temple have some sort of Gym/Recreational area, where the Jedi would spend their off time from missions as such?

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Darthbane2007 posted:

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Oh come on, you know they break out the booze and lower the disco ball when nobody is looking on friday nights!

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LadyLunas posted:

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So true! And it just reminds me of a passage in Ambush at Corellia where Mon Mothma and Luke are talking about the future of the Jedi Order. This was published way back in '95, so I don't know how much (if any) of the text had information from the Prequel Trilogy influencing it. But Mothma, looking back on it from a post-Prequel world, I am utterly amazed at what she's saying - don't let the Jedi distance themselves from the population, but make them be a part of it.

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Darthbane2007 posted:

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Which brings me to my next question: How do Jedi, particular of the old republic, do for fun? Did the temple have some sort of Gym/Recreational area, where the Jedi would spend their off time from missions as such?

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ardavenport posted:

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Darthbane2007 posted:

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Oh come on, you know they break out the booze and lower the disco ball when nobody is looking on friday nights!

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While I don't consider Jedi to be such killjoys as to be Borg-like I am awfully strict with them in my fics. So, no wild parties. If Jedi were asked to host a party it would turn out to be more like a wine and brie thing.

Who drinks wine anymore?!

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ardavenport posted:

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Darthbane2007 posted:

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Which brings me to my next question: How do Jedi, particular of the old republic, do for fun? Did the temple have some sort of Gym/Recreational area, where the Jedi would spend their off time from missions as such?

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That's a tough question. It would certainly depend on the individual and their species. Things that Jedi might do for fun:

- Reading
- Art (though anything produced like paintings or carvings would have to be given away)
- gardening
- non-competitive sports
- cooking
- academic topics like history, literature, philosophy
- music
- lying on warm beaches
- camping / picnicking
- puzzles

Things that they might be allowed to do with limitations:
- hunting
- competitive games
- performing
- attending performances
- fattening foods
- animal care

Things that Jedi would be forbidden to do:
- gambling (when not on duty )
- addictions
- collecting beer bottles
- collecting anything
- night-clubbing
- eating competitions
- selling anything
- blowing things up (again, when not on duty)
- pets (in terms of ownership)

However, I think that being a Jedi is mostly a full-time occupation and hobby and that Force abilities require constant practice to keep them active, like an athlete keeping in shape. So, that won't leave a lot of time for other activities.

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Darthbane2007 posted:

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Who drinks wine anymore?!

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The_Face posted:

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Or more accurately/less relatably, monks. The Force is a "hokey religion", and they're its devoted followers. They spend a lot of time meditating, they train in a martial art, they learn more about this mystic force from their elder members, they wear nifty brown robes... Pop the Temple onto a mountain in Tibet and they'll fit right in. And they were raised in this lifestyle from extremely young ages (Anakin was, what, nine when he was "too old"?).

Yes, the Jedi are real people with flaws and individual personalities and desires, but they are also (from infancy) part of an ancient monastic order of galactic peace-keepers. It's important not to swing too far in either direction (robotic or overly loose). You can distinguish a real character without having them get wasted Saturday nights.

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dianethx posted:

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I haven't really made anything up. It frustrates me that there's very little real information as to living quarters and if the Padawans live with their masters or not. There seems to be barracks in the Complete locations book. So I can't figure out if it's more barracks or more individual rooms.

What I want to know is how long it would take to get from one side of the Temple to the other. What if you had to get somewhere fast? I know there were horizontal turbolifts but surely they must have done a heck of a lot of walking!

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Darthbane2007 posted:

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Another question I have is, When the Jedi are/were bought to the temple, were they already named or do the Jedi name them as soon as they arrive? For all we know, Obi-Wan could have been named Baloo Babaloo, and the Jedi decided to change it to Kenobi.

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dreamshell posted:

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The only case of the Jedi naming a child that I know of is Baby Ludi Billane, who they renamed Aris-Del Wari;

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Aris-Del_Wari

"After the groundquake of Ord Thoden, a team of Jedi rescue workers found a Force-sensitive child in the ruins of the Ord Thoden capital Domitree. Presuming the child's parents to be dead, the Jedi named the child Aris-Del Wari and decided to train her in the ways of the Force."

It doesn't end there, though;

"When Jonava Billane recovered and learned her child, Ludi, had survived and been rescued by the Jedi, she traveled to Coruscant and petitioned to be reunited with her daughter. However, the Jedi Council rejected her petition, arguing that giving back the child to her would be too dangerous now that the baby's mind had been opened to the Force."

Reactions were mixed;

http://www.holonetnews.com/46/jediwatch/1337_1.html

I'm obsessed with this incident, because I think it gives insight into a huge flaw in the Order and its policies. The resulting anti-Jediism is, in my opinion, very understandable.

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