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Darthbane2007
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earlybird-obi-wan posted:
And you have Corellia and the Corellian Jedi. They live mostly on that planet and can have children and marriage.
How are Corellian Jedi different than other Jedi anyway, besides being from Corellia?
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bi0nic
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Kewl. Thanks for the confirmation on the creche concept, peoples. 
Darthbane2007 posted:
How are Corellian Jedi different than other Jedi anyway, besides being from Corellia?
Apart from working alongside CorSec, having families and the wearin' o' the green, not much from what I can tell. Although, I am just going off what it says in Wookieepedia, my first-hand EU knowledge is limited to say the least.
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Darthbane2007
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Does anybody care to work out how Species are represented in the Jedi Order? I know that humans are the most numerous, with Twi'Leks possibly in second..
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ardavenport
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I'm afraid I've never really thought about attempting a species breakdown of the Jedi. I assume it would be roughly similar to the species breakdown of the Republic, but I have no idea of what that would be.
The best estimate might be to estimate it from the Jedi you see in the movies. The Jedi Council is mostly non-human - this is a breakdown I did awhile ago for a fic with the human in boldface:
TPM seating order, going from the door, to the left, clockwise:
Depa Billaba
Eeth Koth
Yarael Poof
Adi Gallia
Oppo Rancisis
Even Piell
Yaddle
Saesee Tiin
Ki-Adi Mundi
Yoda
Mace Windu
Plo Koon
ATOC seating order, going from the door, to the left, clockwise:
Depa Billaba?
Eeth Koth?
Horn-on-head guy
Adi Gallia?
Oppo Rancisis
Even Piell
Shaak’ti
Saesee Tiin
Ki-Adi Mundi
Yoda
Mace Windu
Plo Koon
ROTS seating order, going from the door, to the left, clockwise:
Stass Allie
Person sitting between Kit Fisto and Stass Allie
Kit Fisto
Saesee Tiin
Orange-greenish head guy
Anakin Skywalker
Agen Kolar
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Ki-Adi Mundi
Yoda
Mace Windu
Plo Koon
Almost everyone is a different species, so there must be lots of non-humans. And we don't even know what species Yoda is. But in the Arena in AOTC, you see lots of humans fighting. Most of the bodies in the Temple in ROTS looked human, but it's hard to tell.
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The_Jedi_Index
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Darthbane2007
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So how exactly does a Jedi Knight/Master choose their padawan anyway? Do they just go to a group of Jedi Initiates and go " Eeney Meeney Miney Moe" ?
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ardavenport
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It's really not stated. From the JA books, an individual master looks over the choices and picks one. Presumably they use the Force as a guide to see which one 'feels' right. Or circumstances throws them together, as was the case for Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan in the JA books.
For Obi-Wan, Anakin was an odd choice, since he trained him because he promised Qui-Gon that he would.
In the Clone Wars movie, Obi-Wan supposedly asked the Council to send him a new Padawan, presumably sight-unseen. But it is strongly hinted that the padawan was meant for Anakin all along, a ploy to give Anakin more responsibility that will help mature him. But being assigned a padawan in the middle of a war is highly unusual, so that wouldn't be a standard.
However, this implies that the Council can assign a padawan to a Jedi Knight to train, if they think that both of them will benefit from the pairing. Interesting possibilities there.
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Darthbane2007
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ardavenport posted:
It's really not stated. From the JA books, an individual master looks over the choices and picks one. Presumably they use the Force as a guide to see which one 'feels' right. Or circumstances throws them together, as was the case for Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan in the JA books.
For Obi-Wan, Anakin was an odd choice, since he trained him because he promised Qui-Gon that he would.
In the Clone Wars movie, Obi-Wan supposedly asked the Council to send him a new Padawan, presumably sight-unseen. But it is strongly hinted that the padawan was meant for Anakin all along, a ploy to give Anakin more responsibility that will help mature him. But being assigned a padawan in the middle of a war is highly unusual, so that wouldn't be a standard.
However, this implies that the Council can assign a padawan to a Jedi Knight to train, if they think that both of them will benefit from the pairing. Interesting possibilities there.
But what if 2 Masters/Knights both wanted the same padawan?
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FireJade
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ardavenport posted:
However, this implies that the Council can assign a padawan to a Jedi Knight to train, if they think that both of them will benefit from the pairing. Interesting possibilities there.
There's evidence for that in the EU as well, i.e. Yoda assigning Scout to Jai Maruk in Yoda: Dark Rendezvous.
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earlybird-obi-wan
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At least Corellians have it easy.  They train their own child. Nejaa trained Valin or Hal Horn as he was known after the Clone Wars and purge and Hal trained Corran.
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Darthbane2007
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Here's how I think it was done:
Younglings are put into a group called clans. They train them until the appropriate age. Then, depending on how many are in the clan, they contact the same number of Knights ( or masters) That are due to recieve Padawans, and have them study the group. The Knights/Masters that see a potential Padawan, they choose them. The ones that don't get chosen are given another chance with the next cycle of Younglings that are to be chosen. If they aren't chosen by the second time, then they are sent to the Jedi Service Corps.
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Valairy_Scot
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Younglings are put into a group called clans. They train them until the appropriate age. Then, depending on how many are in the clan, they contact the same number of Knights ( or masters) That are due to recieve Padawans, and have them study the group. The Knights/Masters that see a potential Padawan, they choose them. The ones that don't get chosen are given another chance with the next cycle of Younglings that are to be chosen. If they aren't chosen by the second time, then they are sent to the Jedi Service Corps.
If your source is JA, any potential master looks over any potential youngling - perhaps occasionally as young as 10 up to nearly 13.
I doubt, just my opinion, they have an equal number of knights/masters to match the potential younglings. In fact, in JA #1, only one Jedi (Qui) was available to take a padawan and there were 2 boys close to 13 who were running out of time.
Qui chose to take neither Bruck nor Obi-Wan.
Theoretically Qui could have chosen as a padawan a youngling younger than Bruck or Obi-Wan. By chosing another, or in JA choosing no one, Qui left both boys unchosen. Obi-Wan's time had then run out as their was no other available knight/master.
Ten master/knights could have been present, and 10 younglings or less chosen as padawans, though only 2 were nearing the magic age of 13.
Once chosen, the new padawan leaves the clan. The other potential padawans remain there until chosen OR age 13 (per JA).
Those not chosen by age 13 leave for the other services (Agricorps is mentioned in JA, other sources mention explorer corps, healing, etc. as if a padawan's course is to a Knight and the healers/explorers/farmers are Jedi but not Jedi knights.)
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Those not chosen by age 13 leave for the other services (Agricorps is mentioned in JA, other sources mention explorer corps, healing, etc. as if a padawan's course is to a Knight and the healers/explorers/farmers are Jedi but not Jedi knights.)
The thing that confuses me about that is, there are Jedi Healers who have lightsabers, and have padawans.
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Alexis_Wingstar posted:
Those not chosen by age 13 leave for the other services (Agricorps is mentioned in JA, other sources mention explorer corps, healing, etc. as if a padawan's course is to a Knight and the healers/explorers/farmers are Jedi but not Jedi knights.)
The thing that confuses me about that is, there are Jedi Healers who have lightsabers, and have padawans.
That's why I take and leave what I want from JA - too many contradictions and things I'm not fond of.
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Persephone_Kore
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I think there are Jedi Knights and Masters who are healers and train padawans, but also a Medical Corps run under the auspices of the Jedi but not composed entirely of Jedi. Nor exclusively of failed Jedi or non-Jedi.  I think the other Corps probably work similarly, actually -- Jocasta Nu is supposed to have gone off with the Exploration Corps for a while, and I'm under the impression it was voluntary.
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