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LLL
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4/30 8:51pm
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RE: Community Fan Film Clearinghouse-- A Peek at Part Three forthcoming, perhaps?
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I really like what you submitted!
(And I really didn't think you were going to skip out.)
(But then again, I didn't think DM was, either.  )
Good grief. We didn't even think of that most obvious error when we were working on Part One.  Reasons to have a writing staff instead of just one person!
Go ahead and try those changes out if you want. If they work as well as they sound like they will I will go ahead and put them in the master copy.
About the opening crawl...hmm. This is going to be a long enough film that it sort of deserves one, plus we need something to orient the viewer to where we are in the timeline and what sort of changes have taken place on Naboo.
I suggest we keep a crawl for now, then we can decide later on whether the film will be better with it or without it.
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Jedsithor
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Date Posted:
4/30 10:10pm
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RE: Community Fan Film Clearinghouse-- Important Changes Suggested, please see last page!
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What about just a simple fade in with a few paragraphs explaining the situation, before fading into the first scene, like the beginning of Superman Returns? It's simple, it works, and it's not restricted the way opening crawls are in how much you can fit into each paragraph without it becoming too long. Also, opening crawls are a little bit of a cliche in Star Wars films now. Anyways, it can be decided later.
Regarding the script, I'm on page 14 in Final Draft...yeah, it will be a bit longer than 10 pages. It's 6am here and I'm still writing, hows that for dedication? 
I'm going to sleep now so I'll finish it tomorrow.
As for what's done...I've introduced the smuggler, had him meet the droid, had him try to sell the droid and eventually agree t take the droid where he needs to go. Right now I'm at the stage where the ship is preparing to take off...what will happen is that the Docking Bay administrator will order the storm troopers to stop the ship from taking off, they'll fail...a group of Tie Fighters will move to stop them in orbit, but the ship will jump into Hyperspace....yeah I know hat you're going to say: Stop that ship, Blast 'em. If you think it would be too similar to that scene, I can change it.
In any case, it all ends with the droid using the communications array to make contact with the Imperial as the smuggler looks over his shoulder and begins to wonder if he can use the information the droid is carrying for his own gain.
anyways...one thing I can confirm...the name of the Smugglers ship: The Solar Flare.
EDIT: I'll do a quick rewrite on part one after I've finished part two to make those changes. Want to finish what I'm doing now first.
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DVCPRO-HDeditor
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Date Posted:
5/1 3:56pm
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Jedsithor posted:
What about just a simple fade in with a few paragraphs explaining the situation, before fading into the first scene, like the beginning of Superman Returns? It's simple, it works, and it's not restricted the way opening crawls are in how much you can fit into each paragraph without it becoming too long. Also, opening crawls are a little bit of a cliche in Star Wars films now. Anyways, it can be decided later.
I like the notion. In addition to Superman Returns, it hearkens back to the good ol' days of A Question of Faith.
Plus, we can then skip over the "traditional" pan down/flyby/cut to planet surface and get right to the story.
If not that, then we could also follow the style of IMPS: The Relentless. 
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backdeskproductions
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Date Posted:
5/1 9:14pm
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Jedsithor posted:
What about just a simple fade in with a few paragraphs explaining the situation, before fading into the first scene, like the beginning of Superman Returns? It's simple, it works, and it's not restricted the way opening crawls are in how much you can fit into each paragraph without it becoming too long. Also, opening crawls are a little bit of a cliche in Star Wars films now. Anyways, it can be decided later.
Regarding the script, I'm on page 14 in Final Draft...yeah, it will be a bit longer than 10 pages. It's 6am here and I'm still writing, hows that for dedication?
I'm going to sleep now so I'll finish it tomorrow.
As for what's done...I've introduced the smuggler, had him meet the droid, had him try to sell the droid and eventually agree t take the droid where he needs to go. Right now I'm at the stage where the ship is preparing to take off...what will happen is that the Docking Bay administrator will order the storm troopers to stop the ship from taking off, they'll fail...a group of Tie Fighters will move to stop them in orbit, but the ship will jump into Hyperspace....yeah I know hat you're going to say: Stop that ship, Blast 'em. If you think it would be too similar to that scene, I can change it.
In any case, it all ends with the droid using the communications array to make contact with the Imperial as the smuggler looks over his shoulder and begins to wonder if he can use the information the droid is carrying for his own gain.
anyways...one thing I can confirm...the name of the Smugglers ship: The Solar Flare.
EDIT: I'll do a quick rewrite on part one after I've finished part two to make those changes. Want to finish what I'm doing now first.
I like The Solar Flare
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DarthIshtar
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Date Posted:
5/1 9:24pm
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I like the name of it, too. Makes it sound like it's either really spectacular or really going to blow up at any moment.
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5/2 7:41am
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DarthIshtar posted:
I like the name of it, too. Makes it sound like it's <snip!> going to blow up at any moment.
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea, too. The Falcon just had hyperdrive issues - let's take it up a notch!
BAM!
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DarthIshtar
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I'm going to quote a marvelous line here:
"It's not a family vacation without the threat of spontaneous combustion."
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I can't wait to see Concept Art for it!
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Jedsithor
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5/2 1:34pm
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RE: Community Fan Film Clearinghouse-- Important Changes Suggested, please see last page!
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Been sick the last couple of days so I haven't had a chance to finish it, but I'll be writing tonight so hopefully I'll have it wrapped in a few hours.
EDIT: Done and saved in PDF format. Should I upload and post a link?
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LLL
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5/2 6:17pm
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RE: Community Fan Film Clearinghouse-- Important Changes Suggested, please see last page!
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In The Saga there is a thread for finished pieces of script to go.
*goes to hunt for link*
I just copy-pasted mine in there. But I'd appreciate the PDF (UPSTARTLL8@msn.com) so I can add it to the master copy.
Thanks so much for stepping in and doing this!! You are really quick!! I can't wait to read the finished product.
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Date Posted:
5/2 6:25pm
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RE: Community Fan Film Clearinghouse-- PART TWO DONE! (Take it away, Darth Ish!)
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OK, here ya go...
Linkie.
**As a reminder,
I've been trying to put important news you need to know in colored boxes on both threads that usually say: WHAT'S HAPPENING! If you ever need to know something quick, scroll through and look for these boxes and you'll probably find what you're looking for.
**Other important places to find what you're looking for:
The first and eighth posts contain the basic storyline, length we're shooting for, and who is currently assigned to what part.
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RE: Community Fan Film Clearinghouse-- PART TWO DONE! (Take it away, Darth Ish!)
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Ok, part 2 can now be read by following the link in LLL's post above.
EDIT: So I changed my mind, and gave the Imperial a name, a rank and a location. The reason for this is because of the changes that have to be made in part one, which I'll be working on over the next few days. Speaking of which, LLL, do you have a Final Draft or CeltX file of part 1 that you could send me? It would save me having to reformat the whole thing before I start revising.
I've set up a couple of angles in part 2, one being the smuggler, Larson Zell wanting to use the droid for his own gain, and as a character, he's sarcastic in a "I can't believe this crap keeps happening to me" kind of way. Whether Ish wants to maintain that...well it's up to you.
The Imperial is called Governor Krane...first name is up to you, and he resides on Bestine. I've tried to set it up in a way that would allow you to have as much freedom as possible, by having the droid contact Krane, bt not speaking to him yet, allowing you to introduce the character in your own way. This also means that they don't actually have to reach Bestine if you don't want them to. Krane can tell them to go somewhere else or they can be intercepted by a Star Destroyer or whatever.
The only real issue is that the droid will have to leave the smuggler behind at some point and have a different way of getting back to Naboo, because if Zell goes back, he'll be shot down or arrested.
I guess the only other thing is the nature of the blackmail...it's already been established that it can't be for money, so when I rewrite part 1, I will make it "a better life" which should be vague enough to allow you to interpret that any way you want.
I guess that's it really...good luck to Ish on part 3...I hope I haven't tied you down too much with what I wrote in part 2.
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RE: Community Fan Film Clearinghouse-- PART TWO DONE! (Take it away, Darth Ish!)
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5/2 11:12pm (2 edits total)
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Because it's two am, I'm just going to address this one thing and read the whole script part and do emailing stuff over the weekend.
I really, really appreciate the effort you've made to do this in such a timely manner (especially with GTA coming out, ). My only concern is that I feel like this may be somewhat unfair, because each person was supposed to get their own main character/ship/set of events to have free rein on, and this way Ish doesn't get to do that.
How I would like to handle this is for Ish to take a look at what you've got, obviously, and if that suits her just fine then OK. But if not, I'm leaning toward accomodating what she wants to do to the fullest extent that won't strain credulity in the storyline.
It's only fair. MJ and I got the setup, you got the smuggler, and RX is going to get the bounty hunter. That's why there were four parts, so four different writers got a chance to break out the pen and contribute their own unique creations.
Really, I don't mean any offense. I understand that you probably needed something to work with just to get the part written. Also, this has never been done before, and like with the Darth_Manion thing, problems come up that are unforeseen. I hope that everyone can come together to contribute their own bits in pretty much equal measure and it will all still work together as a unit in the end.
I really appreciate the work you've done, Jed. Really. You've saved the project, and in record time, too. As head writer in charge of producing a first draft, however, my job is to be as inclusive of everyone's different creative ideas as I can, and I'm going to do that in the draft I turn in.
You'll most likely be in charge of rewriting it once we turn it in anyway, and after you get it you can pull the stuffing out of it if you want. That's the way the studios do it in Hollywood, after all! The Filmmaker Is King...in the end.
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5/2 11:16pm
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RE: Community Fan Film Clearinghouse-- PART TWO DONE! (Take it away, Darth Ish!)
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Well I tried to write it in a way that advanced the story but at the same time left enough room for writers that follow me be as creative in their own ideas as they could possibly be. But at the same time, I have to give these characters life. I have to give them a role in the universe and a sense of personality. Writing a story in this way involves compromise. I wouldn't have written part one in quite the same way as you did, but in writing part two, I tried to keep some continuity, with things like the droid being a "walking dictionary" or tying the stormtroopers capture of the thieves into the search for "BOT" by the family, in a total coincidental way. But at the same time I moved the story forward, introduced a new character with his own personality.
The problem with writing this way is that it denies total creativity, there is no getting around that. The story is designed as a single-author story, and we're trying to do it with multiple authors...which is why I had been advocating having separate stories that merge at certain points.
An example of the ideal way to do it in terms of giving writers as much freedom as possible would be to say that what is now part 1 and part 2 is one story. Rather than just bringing the Imperial into it and continue that story, have the next writer tell the story of what happens to the Imperial up to the point where the two stories would merge.
So, Ish could write a story about the Imperial going hunting banthas or something and tell that story, leading up to a point where he is contacted by the droid...then the two stories merge and another writer carries on from there until they split apart again. The different stories would merge and split at different points, and each writer would either tell the separate portions or tell the merged portions.
That's the best way to do it in terms of giving as much freedom as possible to the writers.
The way it's being done now means more compromise but hopefully I've left enough room to allow Ish to be creative.
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This is the idea we ended up with, but it doesn't mean your approach couldn't also have worked. Maybe there will be another project like this in the future.
I think everything will turn out OK in the end.
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