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RX_Sith
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5/27 7:28am
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RE: Community Fan Film Clearinghouse-- In the homestretch, we are. Take it away, RX_Sith!!
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The Naboovian Plague was made up by BEL MADEN. There is NO plague, just whatever disease BOT's master has.
And Jedsithor; about your backstory; I do like it, but I don't know if BEL MADEN should be a good guy in this.
DarthIshtar: I would think that all Imperial transmissions are over secure channels. After all, they wouldn't want the Rebels to be intercepting their transmissions without having them scrambled and secured. And Larson being tricked out with Boba Fett weaponry? Where does that happen? I had him pick up CHENLAMBEC's and TINIAN's weapons after the cargo box dropped on them. Those weapons are obviously BOUNTY HUNTER type weapons which explains the disintegration of the box thrown at him. No where else does he do anything with fancy weapons. I haven't even had him use any kind of weapons that his ship is equipped with.
I guess that this story will need to be rewritten here and there to tighten it up and explain a few things that are left open. But, really, do we have to explain everything? I don't think that we want this to be a story where we have to constantly explain how certain things happen and why? Even Star Wars was very ambiguous with its storyline. Only in the sequels did it start to explain things (like the Force, the Jedi, the Sith, etc.)
Some things are pretty convenient in this story so far, but again in Star Wars; wasn't it pretty convenient the way that Luke was able to join Obi-Wan? In my part, I did not want TINIAN and CHENLAMBEC to die when BOSSK fired on the cargo hold. I wanted them to escape and eventually help LARSON some which is where I currently have the story stopped. If you want them to die, I can still arrange for that to happen in the space battle coming up. That really is the only part that I have left to write. So, let me know now which direction you want me to go; have some casualties in the upcoming space battle; have everyone make it safely to Naboo; have something else happen?
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DarthIshtar
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Okay, sorry, misread that. In that case, I really only have issues with the characterization and the vocab improvement.
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Jedsithor
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Well the doctor wouldn't really be a good guy I suppose...he worked with the rebels because he hated clones, not because he believed in freedom for the galaxy.
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I'm not a fan of the doctor being part of the rebel effort. His character doesn't mesh well with their ideals and this is supposed to be a contemptible character. Excusing it all as him being on the good side just doesn't work philosophically for me.
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Jedsithor
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DarthIshtar posted:
I'm not a fan of the doctor being part of the rebel effort. His character doesn't mesh well with their ideals and this is supposed to be a contemptible character. Excusing it all as him being on the good side just doesn't work philosophically for me.
That's kind of the point. He joins the rebels because of his own beliefs on cloning, he wants to wipe them all out. When the rebels rejects that idea, he finds himself alone within the Empire and because the Admiral has evidence of his experiments and data showing that he had reached out to the rebellion, it gives the doctor a motivation to do what the droid wants and then do whatever it takes to destroy the evidence or risk being exposed.
Everything he does is because of his own beliefs and his own survival, not because he believes in the rebellion or the Empire.
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RX_Sith
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I am totally agreeing with DarthIshtar here. It was her character to make and I think that he needs to be as bad to the core as possible.
No offense Jedsithor, but if we have characters who are "Rebels in Disguise" then that to me defeats the purpose of having them in this story in the first place.
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LLL
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RE: Community Fan Film Clearinghouse-- In the homestretch, we are. Take it away, RX_Sith!!
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WHAT'S HAPPENING! 5/27/08
Attention all writers:
DROID PICTURES are going up on the Fan Films thread!
There seems to be some confusion now on the sex of the droid. We had agreed on female, but the ones coming out over there appear to be decidedly masculine. I am trying to start some discussion about this over there.
Regarding the current issues: We started out with a basic understanding that everyone was working off of. If we change it 180 degrees now, it will be too hard to arrive at a completed first draft that isn't completely unworkable with a pile of holes in it.
In order to just get a first draft done, I advise that we stick with the original plans as much as possible, unless there is an obvious fix that has to be made. That way it won't be too hard for the clean-up writer at the end to make the master copy to turn in.
As I've been saying, after it gets turned in, the filmies are probably going to tear it apart and rewrite it their way anyway. But if we can't get something at least halfway workable done, they won't have a first draft to start with.
So I'm not a big fan of doing big retcons here when we're almost through.
Also, so that characteristic dialogue styles will have some uniformity, it may be a good idea to have the original inventor of a character go back over and tweak their character's dialogue if it gets written by another person in a subsequent section of the script and there are noticable differences.
These are just my ideas. Discussion is welcome.
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LLL
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Oops.
I should also mention:
I will be out of town tomorrow, and have to work Thursday and Friday. However, I have the weekend off, and I was going to make that Script Weekend, and just sit down and consolidate everything we've got so far. I may be contacting some of you for help/suggestions.
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5/27 8:11pm
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LLL posted:
There seems to be some confusion now on the sex of the droid. We had agreed on female, but the ones coming out over there appear to be decidedly masculine.
So, we'll smooth out a few edges and give the designs some different curves here and there.
LLL posted:
If we change it 180 degrees now, it will be too hard to arrive at a completed first draft that isn't completely unworkable with a pile of holes in it.
I'm guessing that you're referring to making one of the Imps a "good guy." I don't necessarily like that idea. We're talking about characters who conspired together to assassinate a career military man to further their own careers. Redemption is a key element of the Star Wars Saga, but not necessarily of this story.
LLL posted:
As I've been saying, after it gets turned in, the filmies are probably going to tear it apart and rewrite it their way anyway. But if we can't get something at least halfway workable done, they won't have a first draft to start with.
Actually, I think we've learned from the Prequels that it's best to use someone else on the script. Otherwise, we never would have asked. I'm guessing that we're going to ask for a story consultant to be available during our "tweaking" process.
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Also, so that characteristic dialogue styles will have some uniformity, it may be a good idea to have the original inventor of a character go back over and tweak their character's dialogue if it gets written by another person in a subsequent section of the script and there are noticable differences.
Wow, that's a really good idea. I like that - a lot.
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Jedsithor
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Ok, so RX hasn't finished yet, I have no idea how that part will end or where the characters will end up....but I've started writing the finale...or rather A finale. I had an idea of how to end the story and I wanted to see how it would play out in a script, so I started writing.
Obviously, RX's part could mean throwing out everything I'm writing, which I'm totally fine with, but I figure that it would at least be beneficial to have a base to either work from or reject completely when it comes to writing those final pages of the story. Plus if it's an idea you guys want to go with, you want have to wait another few weeks to see it written. Either way it works out.
I'm not going to post the idea or script until part 4 is done because it would be unfair on RX and it's important that the writer isn't tied down by what's yet to come.
All I will say is...someone dies. 
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LLL
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Well...originally I was saving the ending to be done by me and possibly MJ as well, since it's supposed to come back to the characters we invented for Part One.
But. This could be a good thing. If you guys have the opportunity to choose between two different endings, how could that be bad?
DVC, hold the phone on that droid, there. It might be one way of creating an original and memorable character, if we keep the appearance that it now has but make it female anyway.
Some of the most memorable female characters in history were created by putting a female in a role written for a man. Look at Ellenor Frutt on The Practice. Look at the CCH Pounder role on The Shield.
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LLL posted:
If you guys have the opportunity to choose between two different endings, how could that be bad?
Heh - alternate endings on the DVD? 
LLL posted:
Some of the most memorable female characters in history were created by putting a female in a role written for a man. Look at Ellenor Frutt on The Practice. Look at the CCH Pounder role on The Shield.
I had in mind the WA-7 unit from Dex's Diner, who looked somewhat female; and TC-14, who didn't, but still sounded female.
There's actually quite a list of droids with feminine programming, of all shapes and sizes.
Again, it's simply a matter of options.
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RX_Sith
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Well, I think that maybe we should have Bot's master die at the end. It would be a sad ending but I think that it would be the best one. I mean, it's been now quite some time since Bot left. If he was gravely ill, then even the medicine might not be enough to save him. Plus, who's to say if Bel Maden actually gave him the "Real" medicine or not. He could have given them a "Placebo" and Larson and Bot probably wouldn't know the difference. In fact, that to me, now that I think about it, would make the most sense.
If we are to have Bel Maden as a truly evil person, wouldn't him giving Larson and Bot fake medication be what any normal "Evil" guy do. I think this is probably the ending that we should have. Also, don't forget that Admiral Narcam said that he would get his revenge on Bel Maden as well. He could have him killed by any means necessary to get rid of Bel Maden if that is what we want to do as well. I am not going to put that part in the rest of my part that I have to do. I will leave that open-ended for whoever does the last part to finish this the way that they think works best.
I will hopefully have the space battle done either today or by the end of the week at the latest. I guess it will all depend on how my muse works for me.
Anyway, consider all of the above for the ending; not that I want to influence it one way or another.
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I am still in favor of the idea that Bot gets back to Naboo and the master is dead. That way, we never know if Bel Maden gave them the right medicine.
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DarthIshtar posted:
I am still in favor of the idea that Bot gets back to Naboo and the master is dead. That way, we never know if Bel Maden gave them the right medicine.
To pull that off, I think you need more scenes with the family to get a sense that the bot (who I thought and wrote as a male) is running out of time. There needs to be a sense of urgency.
The person who dies in what I'm writing is BOT
We spend so much time with the droid that really, he/she is the character that we care most about and to have BOT be killed at the end makes more sense from a dramatic and emotional standpoint than an old man, who is the primary plot device, but still just a background character.
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