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Non-Star Wars fan fic forum proposal - forum to be created!!
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mavjade
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Date Posted:
5/11 6:51pm
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RE: Non-Star Wars fan fic forum proposal
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Wow! Gone for a little over a week and important things always come up! 
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I'm not real fond of this idea. There are plenty of places to post fanfic (ff.net, LJ etc.) and I come here for SW and to talk with my fellow SW fans, I feel if we allow other fandoms we are opening it up for more of the crap that happens when fandoms collide. I could be wrong, it might not bring that many more people than would come here anyway and it would be a place for us to post other fandom fanfics, but I doubt it.
Alley_Skywalker posted:
Well why would the "no slash" rule apply for a forum for other fandoms? I mean... we're aloud slash even here if it’s with OCs. i though the only reason we can't have slash with canon characters here is b/c GL takes issue with his characters being gay or something like that. So what do other fandoms have to do with it? And what about fandoms where m/m relationships are canon?
No, I think the no slash is because the owners say so (even though there are now cannon slash characters), and slash is only allowed in very vague references.
This is another reason I'm not really into this idea.... my other fandoms there is either cannon slash (Torchwood) or a huge slash following (House)... I'm cool with following that rule here (as upsetting as it is) but it would be even more upsetting to me where a slash relationship is not only cannon but very popular and I couldn't share it here if there were other fandoms fanfic being posted. 
I have no idea if that made any sense, I'm very tired!! 
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Miana Kenobi
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5/11 9:36pm
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Again, remember the difference between slash and SSR. Slash is definitely a no, but we're still asking about SSR.
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Alley_Skywalker
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5/11 10:53pm
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What's SSR?
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Kurdt_Kobain
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5/11 11:27pm
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SSR = Same sex relationships
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MariahJade2
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5/12 4:48am
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Is it really that much of an issue for this new forum to possibly include a total of three boards, two story boards and one resource board?
I agree with Leona on this. While I'm not really on board with this whole proposed forum, if you do decide to go through with creating a new forum for Non-SW fan fic, it would make more sense to keep it all together. The mods chosen would need to be familiar with the goings on in the forum and the needs of the users, so having things spread out between the new forum, SFF and Amp, would be adding an extra hurdle to jump over. If you want to drive more traffic to those other forums, why not plan joint projects and activities which can cross over rather than splitting up the basics of a fan fic forum?
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mavjade
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5/12 9:57am
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Miana Kenobi posted:
Again, remember the difference between slash and SSR. Slash is definitely a no, but we're still asking about SSR.
Ok, so it is possible which makes me feel a little better! I always assumed the no slash rule meant no same sex relationships, period.
The fandom I belong to in which there is a cannon and established SSR people there still call slash even though technically its not. I've gotten used to calling an SSR slash because it tends to be the common term for same sex parings whether cannon or not.
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rebel_cheese
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5/12 1:17pm
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I didn't know that slash and SSRs were different things until now. You learn something new every day.
In any case, I don't see what is the big deal with SSRs either. They're more open and commonplace than they were a decade ago and more accepted now than they were even two-three years ago. I honestly think this is one of the last fanfiction boards that doesn't permit SSRs or slash, and I think the reason why new writers don't show up here as often nowadays is because of the anti-slash prevalent on the board.
We are not getting enough replacement readers and writers to replace all of us who cut back on fanfiction or leave. It's a slow drain since ROTS that wasn't noticeable until now. Will Clone Wars regain interest? Only if it's a hit, and it will likely only be a temporary boost itself.
Like it or not, I think roughly half of fanfiction writers have written at least one slash/SSR story. It has to be allowed or the board will continue to wilt, IMO.
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LadyLunas
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5/12 1:34pm
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rebel_cheese posted:
I honestly think this is one of the last fanfiction boards that doesn't permit SSRs or slash, and I think the reason why new writers don't show up here as often nowadays is because of the anti-slash prevalent on the board.
rebel_cheese posted:
We are not getting enough replacement readers and writers to replace all of us who cut back on fanfiction or leave. It's a slow drain since ROTS that wasn't noticeable until now. Will Clone Wars regain interest? Only if it's a hit, and it will likely only be a temporary boost itself.
Like it or not, I think roughly half of fanfiction writers have written at least one slash/SSR story. It has to be allowed or the board will continue to wilt, IMO.
Actually, I think a lot of the reason that there aren't a lot of new writers is due to the variances in fandom. Once something has stopped being produced (Harry Potter or PotC, for instance) fandom slows down. It's just the nature of the beast.
As for the non-slash issue, it's one of my favorite things about the Boards. There's so much slash out there, and not everyone likes to read it, that the few places that don't have it are a haven for the non-slashers.
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Kurdt_Kobain
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5/12 5:29pm
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LadyLunas posted:
As for the non-slash issue, it's one of my favorite things about the Boards. There's so much slash out there, and not everyone likes to read it, that the few places that don't have it are a haven for the non-slashers.
Yes! You are lady after my own heart. I also think there is so much of it in other places and if you want your ssr fix, you can go just about anywhere. Let's keep one place on the Internet to a minimum with this kind of thing because there are plenty of us who don't like it shoved in our faces all the time.
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LilyHobbitJedi
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5/12 5:55pm
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LadyLunas posted:
As for the non-slash issue, it's one of my favorite things about the Boards. There's so much slash out there, and not everyone likes to read it, that the few places that don't have it are a haven for the non-slashers.
Kurdt_Kobain posted:
Yes! You are lady after my own heart. I also think there is so much of it in other places and if you want your ssr fix, you can go just about anywhere. Let's keep one place on the Internet to a minimum with this kind of thing because there are plenty of us who don't like it shoved in our faces all the time.
 Absolutely! I agree wholeheartedly! I love it that on the JC you don't have to worry about any Obi/Ani fics you come across being slash, due to that wonderful rule.
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Alley_Skywalker
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Date Posted:
5/12 5:58pm
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Kurdt_Kobain posted:
LadyLunas posted:
As for the non-slash issue, it's one of my favorite things about the Boards. There's so much slash out there, and not everyone likes to read it, that the few places that don't have it are a haven for the non-slashers.
Yes! You are lady after my own heart. I also think there is so much of it in other places and if you want your ssr fix, you can go just about anywhere. Let's keep one place on the Internet to a minimum with this kind of thing because there are plenty of us who don't like it shoved in our faces all the time.
Well just b/c it's there doesn't mean you have to read it. Most slash stories have warnings right in the header so you don't even have to start reading the story before you find out. Yes, sure, FFM has lots of Obi/Ani material but that doesn’t mean every other story isn’t an A/P or a H/L.
Kurdt_Kobain posted:
SSR = Same sex relationships
Then what’s the diff between slash and SSR? (Just really curious.)
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Pallas-Athena
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5/12 6:12pm
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Slash is usually considered explicit. SSR is not. I also believe that SSR refers to canon homo/bisexuality, whereas slash occurs between characters that are heterosexual in canon.
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Alley_Skywalker
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Pallas-Athena posted:
Slash is usually considered explicit. SSR is not. I also believe that SSR refers to canon homo/bisexuality, whereas slash occurs between characters that are heterosexual in canon.
Well, slash doesn’t have to be explicit at all. It can range from G-rated fluff to NC-17-rated PWP just like any other paring.
I guess you can make a distinction between slash being non-canon and SSR being canon. I’ve never really hard of that distinction but I guess if you wanna call it that. Of course, I don’t see why low-rating slash would be a prob but then SSF but no slash sounds like a good compromise to me 
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Pallas-Athena
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Alley_Skywalker posted:
Well, slash doesn’t have to be explicit at all. It can range from G-rated fluff to NC-17-rated PWP just like any other paring.
I guess you can make a distinction between slash being non-canon and SSR being canon. I’ve never really hard of that distinction but I guess if you wanna call it that. Of course, I don’t see why low-rating slash would be a prob but then SSF but no slash sounds like a good compromise to me
That's why I said "considered." I think "SSR" is used to sort of get around the negative connotations that "slash" has 
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Miana Kenobi
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5/12 10:14pm
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Pallas-Athena posted:
That's why I said "considered." I think "SSR" is used to sort of get around the negative connotations that "slash" has
Pretty much. IMO, at least.
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