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Non-Star Wars fan fic forum proposal - FORUM OPEN!!
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Coruscant
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Feb '04
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Date Posted:
5/3 12:24pm
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RE: Non-Star Wars fan fic forum proposal
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Juliet316 posted:
Add George R.R. Martin, Larry Niven, and Annette Curtis Klause as those that issue C&Ds against FanFiction.
Are you sure about Martin? Last I read he allows fan fiction but discourages it, anyway. His reasoning being that he wants writers to focus on their own original fiction.
edit: nvm! I just read otherwise. Son of a..., I could've sworn he allowed it. Not anymore, I guess.
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JadeSolo
Title: NSF managing NSWFF
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Date Posted:
5/3 12:40pm
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Considering how the JC has changed over the last few years, I think now is a great time to go forward with this forum. From what I understand, aside from the JCC, a lot of the non-SW forums here aren't exploding with traffic. That can be a good thing or a bad thing, but for fanfic, I think it'll be a good thing - at least in the beginning. I see the non-SW fanfic forum as a place where JC regulars can post their non-SW stories without venturing out to other sites filled with strangers - you get the same community reading your work, supporting you, and the same structure to keep things from getting out of control like FFN.
Also, remember back when there was only one fanfic forum for stories? When that got too big, the mods split it up into eras. That doesn't guarantee that we'll have the same result with this new forum, but it's something to keep in mind.
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The Musical Jedi
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5/3 12:48pm
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I guess my only concern is that the new forum would also need a resource area - otherwise there's not going to anywhere for them to go to gather information and make friends. It sounds like community is a big concern of a lot of people, and not having some sort of resource area would probably discourage the sense of community - especially if these new writers aren't already active in SW fan fic.
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Miana Kenobi
Title: Pacific Region RSA
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Date Posted:
5/3 1:25pm
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RE: Non-Star Wars fan fic forum proposal
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Space_Wolf posted:
I don't think it's a good idea. I've always thought that different fandoms should remain seperate from each other on a website like this, otherwise you'll end up with a mess.
The proposal came up, though because we have about 7 or so forums on this board that are not about Star Wars: Sci-Fi and Fantasy Comics/Books, Sci-Fi and Fantasy TV/Movies, The Arena, The Senate, The Amphitheater, YJCC (No SW in JCC  ), and Non-Star Wars RPG.
So why not?
Yes, this site was created for Star Wars fan and was based on Star Wars, but Star Wars fans like other fandoms too.  Adding a non-SW Fan Fiction isn't going to make up turn into a Harry Potter board; it's just another outlet for SW fans to share their other interests.
The Musical Jedi posted:
I guess my only concern is that the new forum would also need a resource area - otherwise there's not going to anywhere for them to go to gather information and make friends. It sounds like community is a big concern of a lot of people, and not having some sort of resource area would probably discourage the sense of community - especially if these new writers aren't already active in SW fan fic.
The idea at the moment is to have a NSWFF (NOT the New South Wales Fan Force ) Resource board as well, but it wouldn't be used the same as the regular Resource board. To help increase the flow and communication between the different boards, we're thinking that any character discussion for non-SW characters will belong in one of the two Sci-Fi/Fantasy forums, since that's what they're about and there for. For general writing stuff, we already have resource for that primarily. So the NSWFF Resource would mostly be for Announcements, questions, maybe a social thread, challenges, etc. Seems a bit strange, but it'll work.
I REALLY don't forsee us having to split this forum up into the near future. Heck, it took Fan Fiction, what was that... 4-5 years or so to split apart. We're really predicting that this won't have as much traffic.
And don't worry; we will never turn into FF.N.
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Pallas-Athena
Title: TFN Fan Fiction Archive Editor
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5/3 2:29pm
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moosemousse posted:
I'd be in favour if I can write Jack/Ianto mush. 
I'm assuming this is a no? Nat, how far has the discussion of canon slash gotten?
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JadeSolo
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Date Posted:
5/3 2:39pm
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RE: Non-Star Wars fan fic forum proposal
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Obvious canon slash wouldn't be allowed because we'd be using the same guidelines for non-SW stories as we do for SW stories. So that would mean no Willow/Tara either, for Buffy writers. But the usual hints and allusions would be fine.
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KELIA
Title: Moderator: Fan Fiction
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Date Posted:
5/3 3:00pm
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RE: Non-Star Wars fan fic forum proposal
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I think it would be a great idea.
There are so many talented writers out there interested in writing in other genres than Star Wars and opening up this site to them would be an amazing gift to those of us who love to read and write...just about anything.
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Space_Wolf
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JadeSolo posted:
Obvious canon slash wouldn't be allowed because we'd be using the same guidelines for non-SW stories as we do for SW stories. So that would mean no Willow/Tara either, for Buffy writers. But the usual hints and allusions would be fine.
That's one of the things which concern me about this. I'm not usually a promoter of slash fan fiction, but if it happened in canon, then I think it's a bit pointless in banning writers from exploring it. There's also Original Cindy in Dark Angel... of course I'm not advocating smut, but I don't think it's fair stopping well meaning writers from writing about the stuff that means something to them. On the other hand, it would be hypocritical if SW fan ficcers weren't able to do the same with the original characters they create. It's like the situation that existed with Gavin and Asyr a few years ago when you couldn't write ISSR.
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Space_Wolf posted:
That's one of the things which concern me about this. I'm not usually a promoter of slash fan fiction, but if it happened in canon, then I think it's a bit pointless in banning writers from exploring it. There's also Original Cindy in Dark Angel... of course I'm not advocating smut, but I don't think it's fair stopping well meaning writers from writing about the stuff that means something to them. On the other hand, it would be hypocritical if SW fan ficcers weren't able to do the same with the original characters they create. It's like the situation that existed with Gavin and Asyr a few years ago when you couldn't write ISSR.
That's just skewing into a different arguement Wolf. I'm sure no fanfic is going to be allowed slash on JC; regardless of the canonization. It's just not going to happen. I'm not against slash, or the like; but I know that's an aspect of the new ff board that will not even be entertained.
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furrylittlebantha posted:
Here's something I just found out: No Tintin fanfic.  Not that anyone here probably knows who Tintin is, but I am a mild fan by association with my sister who is a rabid fan. She returns the favor by reading my fanfic and liking it, so it's all good. (Tintin is an obscure Belgian comic strip/book/intricately plotted actiony detective mystery world travel thing by a guy named Herge who died a while ago. Spielburg and Peter Jackson are making a movie in 09, btw. Okay. enough Tintin) I just thought it was interesting, since we're talking about banned authors.
Isn't Rupert Grint (Ron Weasley) rumored to be in that movie?
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5/3 6:52pm
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JadeSolo posted:
Obvious canon slash wouldn't be allowed because we'd be using the same guidelines for non-SW stories as we do for SW stories. So that would mean no Willow/Tara either, for Buffy writers. But the usual hints and allusions would be fine.
Now I'm confused about that. Willow and Tara were a dedicated couple. It was in the show, it was blatant and obvious and part of the story. If one writes a 5th or 6th season Buffy fic that includes Willow and/or Tara then it looks AU if they're not a couple. I can understand if it has to stay PG, but does that mean that they can't share an innocent kiss? They kissed on TV and implied a whole lot more.
The guidelines are going to be pretty tricky if they are different for gay canon characters than they are for hetero ones.
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Pallas-Athena posted:
moosemousse posted:
I'd be in favour if I can write Jack/Ianto mush.
I'm assuming this is a no? Nat, how far has the discussion of canon slash gotten?
That has come up a lot. Like Jade said, we still have to stick to the current guidelines. The owners wouldn't change them when SW got a gay couple, so they probably won't now.
Like Mi said, we're talking about splitting, but right now there's a question of traffic. We're assuming that it won't get as much as here, so it might not need to.
And yes, we'll be doing pretty extensive pre-opening work. Not only an FAQ, but upper limits on sex and violence, like in here, and an extensive allowed/disallowed list.
We've actually got more than 7: SFFBC, SFFTV, Census&Games, Amph, Senate, JCC, Arena, NSWRPF. And the standards of this place are going to be kept to the same ones that exist here now
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ardavenport posted:
No I'm confused about that. Willow and Tara were a dedicated couple. It was in the show, it was blatant and obvious and part of the story. If one writes a 5th or 6th season Buffy fic that includes Willow and/or Tara then it looks AU if they're not a couple. I can understand if it has to stay PG, but does that mean that they can't share an innocent kiss? They kissed on TV and implied a whole lot more.
That's just a fact that writers will have to deal with on their own, I think. If I see it right, and I think I do, it's not a question of what was appeared on these shows but what's allowed within the specific rules of TFN. We may not agree with them, but them's the rules.
Personally, there's a lot of stuff I'd love to put in my stories that I'm not allowed to - sex, drugs, and rock and roll (okay, that last one may not be against the rules ) - but I'm willing to make the concession and post here because there's simply no community like what we've got here. It's a tradeoff.
I think this is a pretty cool idea. I don't write in other fandoms, but there's a first for everything! I actually like the idea of Lost fanfic 
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Exeter posted:
I think this is a pretty cool idea. I don't write in other fandoms, but there's a first for everything! I actually like the idea of Lost fanfic
Yes, I've written a couple of those.
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obaona
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... Wow. I never thought to see the day. But it sounds like a great idea to me, I've watched (and commented? don't remember) in every discussion about this over the years. But I imagine it's not going to be a very smooth road getting it up and running, taking into account all the issues other fandoms will have to offer.
(John/Cameron from SCC, anyone? )
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