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Draconarius
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FanakinSolo posted:
I'm currently working on a story with no title. Would a Kyp Durron-like Jedi kill a droid with life force inside it or not? 
Depends, I suppose. Does the droid need to die? Is it dangerous?
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Thread necromancy by request. 
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masterjedi343
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hey guys.  im coming up on my last pages/chapters of my story and i need a massive star battle . without giving anything away its between the Imperium and the Star Forge. and ive looked through the pages here and there on this thread and i might try some pilot perspectives but i also want to put juicy detail into it.
as well as the final Lightsaber fight on board the forge.
any general advice to start with?
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masterjedi343
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bump. anyone?
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Alexis_Wingstar
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masterjedi343 posted:
hey guys. im coming up on my last pages/chapters of my story and i need a massive star battle . without giving anything away its between the Imperium and the Star Forge. and ive looked through the pages here and there on this thread and i might try some pilot perspectives but i also want to put juicy detail into it.
as well as the final Lightsaber fight on board the forge.
any general advice to start with?
There was a documentary on the History channel that gave the perspective of WWII fighter pilots on the skirmishes they had with the Germans and Japanese. I can't remember the name of the documentary, but there were definitely good descriptions of fighter battles. You can probably look up the History channel's documentary online.
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masterjedi343
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but i would like some help here. but i love the history channel
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masterjedi343
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bump. again.
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Thumper09
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For writing starfighter portions, I'd definitely recommend reading the X-wing novels, or at the very least the dogfight parts in them. To me, they set the standard for writing dogfights. I try to stick with only one or two character perspectives through a battle because otherwise I get overwhelmed with information and ship movements/actions. Lots of section breaks can be used if more than that is needed, but then (when I write) it gets kind of jarring.
If you're going for a more capital ship-based battle, though, that's a different ballgame I can't really help much with.
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masterjedi343
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i just want some general advice for dogfights. this battle im writing is massive. i dont have any xwing books and probly cant get a hold of some anyway so i would love just advice or tips or something because im stuck and i have to keep repeating stuff.
maybe if i posted what i was working on i could get some hints or advice which i NEED
i tried a few things but i still don't like how it reads. i personally think it sounds kind of boring and i want it to sound exciting so the readers get into it.
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The battle outside was hell. The TIEs couldn’t make a turn without getting blasted. This was no ordinary battle. TIE fighters usually fought in groups. Usually in a group of six to be exact. They would fly in formation firing at the enemy covering each others back, which is how they usually won the battle.
There was no way at all to use that tactic. From the cockpit of the TIE fighter Anthon was learning very quickly that this was not academy training.
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At the academy training, we were all taught to fly information. Well my entire squad was blasted away just five minutes ago, and I am fighting for my life using all my knowledge of turning. I have killed about twenty Forge Fighters…but they don’t stop.
As soon as I kill one, another appears on my tail trying to kill me. But their tactic is different from the one I just killed. And the fact that they swarm everywhere firing doesn’t make it any easier.
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Anthon pitched up his TIE diving down towards another fighter firing his laser cannons aiming for the engine, but he had to steer away as another fighter began attacking.
Getting a idea, he began flying towards large Star Destroyers engaging the giant Forge Capital Ships. He flew between them, his engines roaring to top speed heading for the space between the ships which was rapidly closing cannon fire whizzing at the opposite side.
Twirling his TIE fighter he sped through the hole, but both Forge Fighters did not make it and in their desperate move to get away they slammed into each other becoming just two more fireballs in the sea of explosions.
But there seemed like there was no end to the Forge Forces. They continued to swarm around the Imperials blasting them apart. It seemed like the Imperials were slowly going to lose this fight.
“Commander Cody…this does not look good.” One of the officers said looking up at him.
“What…do you mean ‘not good’?” Cody barked back angrily. He was sweating. Something had told him not to fight today.
“Well sir…we are slowly losing our forces. We have already lost over three hundred fighters and lost five Star Destroyers…the enemy has lost only one hundred fighters and lost zero capital ships.”
Cody nodded thinking a moment. He didn’t know what to do. The Imperium, the entire damn navy of the Galactic Empire was being defeated by a ancient Sith relic.
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Jedi_BMK
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It looks like you're on the right track, but a little more detail on the battle itself and a little less time spent discussing tactics would spice things up. Or, instead of just stating the tactic, describe the move and say why they're performing it. And as much as you can, immerse the reader in the battle by focusing on a single pilot/ship. Give the big picture through the communications.
I found that when I was getting comfortable writing battles, it helped to have some toys around. Moving a plastic X-Wing in my hand gave me a better feel for the motion I really wanted to describe. I also found it helpful to make an attempt at watching the movies, pausing, and putting what I just saw into words. The first real action scene I ever wrote was based on doing this with the battle of Hoth and my first heavy duty lightsaber scene came from the Luke/Vader duel in ESB.
Same goes for lightsabers. Get up and twirl a toy one if you have one or a long stick of some sort if you don't.
Hope that helps.
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masterjedi343
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thats what i was looking for. thank you very much!
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masterjedi343
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i would also love to have a example or two of a detailed star fighter dogfight. again i appreciate the help much (and a saber duel unless im missing a good example thats on one of these pages already)?
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masterjedi343
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masterjedi343
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thread bump still need help on the dogfights 
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pronker
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 Hi. I don't have a lot of knowledge about dogfight scenes, but if an idea comes up other than small sorties, I'll post it. I'm currently looking for a tactical description of a large battle scene in the Clone Wars, which ends in the Republic's (temporary) defeat. There are sonic weapons involved. For the ending victorious battle (yay!), I'm breaking my head over a way to use sound as, once again, a plot point. Happy writing!
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