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Another One of my crazy story ideas: The Jedi Order Searches for the Holy Grail
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SPphoenix
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May '00
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6/1/00 6:34pm
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Re: In support of Clay Kronke...
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I agree with you Saeed ...
I don't think Clay would give a second thought about this so no creative comment anyway.Nor should any of you guys do if you came to be in his place.(or have come)
I 've read something in a similar fanfilm forum that went something like this:
"Making a fanfilm is like cooking for friends.If they don't like it there is more for me...or something like that - you get the picture (-thanks to whoever wrote it).Being happy with your film is what matters the most.
And BTW Clay's lightsabers are the best in the galaxy.
[This message has been edited by SPphoenix (edited 06-01-2000).]
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lokmer
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6/1/00 8:08pm
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Well, I hate to admit this now, but I let out a sympathetic chuckle when I read the review on Ifilm.
I love Clay's movie, and Clay himself was a great help to me a couple months ago in finding SCUMM Revisited so I could extract some sounds from the TPM video game. When I first saw his movie, I kept thinking "Man, oh man I hope he can fight better than he can act." But, upon repeat viewing, I found out what the problem was: The acting was decent, but the micing (Man, I hate camcorder mics) was so bad I had trouble understanding what was being said. So, it's an easy mistake to make. Now that I've seen it a few times (alright, alright, a few dozen) I can hear what's going on and don't have too much of a problem with the acting.
Now, where's that ladder. Dammit, I left it up at the top of this hole I dug for myself...How'm I gonna get out of this one now.
-Lokmer
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The_Scream_Man
Title: FF Chapter Rep: New South Wales AU
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6/1/00 10:51pm
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New world had ok acting. DIdnt bother me to much. Sides, my acting probably wont be great anyway...ah well...
My major thing with new world was, just the saber duel was in places a little repetative. And in some of the close up fight shots, they seemed to just be standing, with no force behind the blows.
But dont get me wrog. i would never bag the film out. i think its good, I have it on file, and watch it alot as well...
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Xecuter666
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6/2/00 12:25am
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to be honest, the first few times i saw it, i just fast forwarded to the kickass duel part! after i saw those, i never paid attention to what was said...
and yeah, some of the fight parts were kinda... blah, but overall, one of THE best fights in a fanfilm thus far!
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Stavros
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6/2/00 8:29am
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Come on, although the effects were good you can't possibly say the acting was anything other than poor. To say the acting was wooden is an insult to sticks everywhere.
OK, it wasn't that bad but you get the point.
It certainly wasn't the galaxys worst acting. That award goes to Jake Lloyd.
Stavros (reaching for flame-proof suit)
"That was the most spectacular fight I've ever seen"
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Darth Maniacos
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6/2/00 6:49pm
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Hey,in EP1 you can also see that Ray Park is
standing around! One Martial-Arts Professional against 2 actors ?
The can act like hell,but you see who has knowledge of fighting!
And in New World it was the same,the guy with the long hair knows how to fight,but the other doesn´t!!
But i have never seen a better fight(in a fanfilm)and the lightsabers rock!!
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Short Round McFly
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6/2/00 7:57pm
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CLAY CRONKE! CLAY CRONKE! CLAY CRONKE! CLAY CRONKE!*Says it like the crowd on Gladiator when they say "MAXIMUS! MAXIMUS! MAXIMUS! MAXIMUS! MAXIMUS!"
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Ejan Jerthrid
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6/3/00 12:45am
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Hello all. Most of the members of the swvideo forum already know me by name, but for benefit of those who spend their time here who don’t already know, allow me to introduce myself. My name is Clay Kronke, perpetrator of the wonderful hunk of cheese that is Final Training.
First off, let me say no, the short writeup at IFILM is nowhere near offensive. I don’t personally agree with it, but far be it from me to argue with someone’s opinion. It actually made me laugh out loud when I saw it (and anyway I was the one who pointed it out to Azeem in the first place, because I thought it was rather funny). And some of you know that I just don’t care. I knew full well going into this that I wouldn’t be able to please everybody. But I knew that most people would get at least some enjoyment from it (even if only for some amount of mindless entertainment value). And that’s really good enough for me.
I’m going to take this opportunity to expound a bit on the film, since I didn’t have benefit of this section of the forum when the film first came out. What everyone has said so far is absolutely true. The film has it’s flaws and weak points, and I saw them well before anyone else. But being as this is my first film of any kind, I’m rather happy with it. And so is Wade and Jennifer (Wade has impressed more of his friends with it than I care to be aware of). The intent of the film was twofold: the first being to put together something that people might want to see (realizing that when we first started, the only films on TFN were Troops, Bounty Trail, the first Knightquest trailer and Sacrifices – so at the time there were no real saber duels to speak of), and the second being just to see if we could do it in the first place. I’m not going to get into story, because there are strong proponents of good story development on this board, and it should be apparent that the film doesn’t contain much plot. But I didn’t intend it to. Several people that I talk to regularly (most notably Zayn, Subject Zero and Azeem) know that I had severe limitations -- only three people, no sets, no bluescreens, no CG knowledge whatsoever, an old VHS camcorder and one (count them) meager editing package. I knew my limitations going into the project, so I decided early on just to try to present one part of a larger story (in this case, a single scene), that way I wouldn’t sacrifice the story for the sake of the film (being a strong proponent of good story development myself), since I knew that the story would still be intact regardless of how well the film did. And when it comes right down to it -- bad dialogue or not -- the three of us had more fun working on this film than anything else we did that semester. We had an absolute blast, and for me, that was the most important thing about doing this film.
So to those of you who have chimed in with comments and support (either on this board or the other, over ICQ or in email), you have my humblest and most sincere thanks.
- Clay
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The_Scream_Man
Title: FF Chapter Rep: New South Wales AU
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6/3/00 1:38am
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"Clay, its so sweet of you to let this little retarded boy be in your movie"
Best line ever! And it wasnt even in the film!
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Movie Maximus
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6/3/00 5:46am
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Right on, Clay!
And I'd like to take this moment to thank Clay for inspiring me to pursue this dream of filmmaking that I once had, lost and found again. It was his Matrix saber test that made me believe that I could actually do this. Thanks, Clay, I'm sincerely grateful to you, and you have both my respect and admiration, as well as my friendship.
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Xander28
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6/5/00 1:37pm
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I would like to agree with Movie Maximus (by the way MM.....true...lol ). I posted perhaps my longest post EVER over at swvideo about what made me want to make movies. (Clerks being the first, and Clay showing that lightsabers can be done at relative low cost and look GREAT). I have written Clay a couple differetn times and he has always responded with kindness and helpful answers. He's one of the nicest guys I have "met" online and makes one HELLUVA a good lighsaber!
Ok, enough gushing...Clay is probably gonna blush.
Patrick
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Jean
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1/19/05 7:59pm
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Exxaciel
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3/28/05 8:47pm
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I need to see Holy Grail again, but this is rapidly becoming a dead string. Will nobody post?
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Miana Kenobi
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3/28/05 9:16pm
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Considering that no one has posted since 2000, I doubt it will get a new post. 
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Exxaciel
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3/29/05 3:25pm
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Aww, come on, this has great potential! Someone with more free time and a better understanding of Grail get on here!
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