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excalibur2358
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8/14/03 10:23am
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Sabre- Don't worry! I'll send it to you as soon as I get back to school (the net connection here stinks).
Casper- Your suggestions are already being taken to heart- once again you're helping us more than you could know and we appreciate it big time bud. Thanks so much for taking the time because I know Jaxx and I both value your word so much. I'll try to remember what you said about Spectre- we're going to balance it out with him in the spotlight when he's younger and in the shadows after we've established he has fallen.
As for the ladies, Kelli's story will remain the same but she'll get a bit more exposure in Era 1 when she's teaching Jace and such. Mazza will also gain a little more direction and purpose- we're in the process of thinking it out.
The Tarahumarans will have a bit of history hinted at in Era 1 but it will be cryptic. But Era 3 they will have a lot of exposure because they will be essential to the plot.
And I really think you're on target with the reminders of what has happened before. Good call- Jaxx and I will definitely be using that.
Gotta fly. Later people!
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Whiskey in the Jar-Jar
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I went to that site you mentioned, Casper...scary thing is I recognize one or two of the people there.
I'm still recovering from my 2 week vacation and I'm getting back to writing and catching up on things...including the questionnaire. I should have it done by Saturday with any luck.
I'm also looking forward to the revamped stories. Put me on the subscription list. 
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Grand_Admiral_Jaxx
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Ya got it 
We'll swing by Canada when we do the book tour. It's on the way
--Jaxx
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excalibur2358
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Yes indeed, that's gonna be a murderous book tour. I wonder if the movie junket will be worse? 
excal
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Whiskey in the Jar-Jar
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A little late, but as promised...
1. What did you and didn't you like about Destiny's Knights?
I loved the rich storyline and how involved it was. It was a smooth progression of the characters through trials and tribulations to all emerge at the end the same, but changed slightly.
At times the story was hard to follow, but I blame the boards more for that than the writers. I think if I had the document as a whole before me, it would read perfectly.
2. How did you feel about the characters?
A. Arcturus?
Turu was by far my favourite character, mainly because I’m a medieval nut  Seeing Turu develop from underpowered Jedi Knight to arcanely powerful Force sorcerer has been probably the most attractive thread
B. Jace?
Jace was by far the epitome of a boy becoming a man and a milksop becoming a warrior. I’m not criticizing his development by any stretch; I just think that in terms of maturing, Jace had come the longest way.
C. Kelli?
When I think of Kelli, the word ‘Spitfire’ comes to mind. I like how she is self-sufficient, but at the same time loves and needs Jace. She is an interesting dichotomy of characters ranging from hardass independent spitfire of a woman, to someone not afraid to let their emotions show to the one she loves.
D. Mazza?
Mazza is a good fit for Arcturus. I see her as a strong character who doesn’t feel she needs to prove anything to her Jedi friends and husband. In spite of her not having the Force, I find her to be the only one seemingly capable of reining in the storm that is her husband.
3. Were each of the heroes developed enough? Were they believable as not only heroes by humans? Were they too over the top strong or too weak?
When you’re dealing with the creation of heroes, the notion of ‘over the top’ can really only be used if the villains haven’t been properly developed. So long as there is a balance of power between good and evil, be it numbers versus skill, skill versus skill, or skill versus numbers.
The heroes had just enough power and development to overcome their adversaries, and what they went through to accomplish this was just the right mix of win and loss to make the characters believable.
4. Were there any problems we should fix in the characters personalities?
Can’t really see any personality flaws, although I wonder about Turu a bit. As his power as a sorcerer is developing, I wonder if he wouldn’t take on a more wizard-like personality…whimsical and a little aloof. Then again, that’s probably what I’d do and I’m not the author. I liked the way he was written, but if one thing was to change, it would be that.
5. Was Spectre finally given the right amount of time? As the series will not be re-envisioned, my original plan to keep him in the shadows for most of Dawn and Hand of Fate will be scrapped. Was he a dynamic enough villain? Any flaws we should fix?
No problems here. The guy was pure, cold, calculating evil. I would probably have to go back to the very beginning of the saga to get a real feel for the reasons behind his fall in order to fully appreciate the climax of when he finally erupts in front of Jace and Kelli, and I will someday.
6. Reactions on Mephisto. Was he too over the top? Too violent? Just right?
Ah, Mephisto…one of my favourite villains of all time. He was the raging malevolence that balanced the cool efficiency of Spectre. I think his arc was perfect for the role he played. As I said earlier, so long as there is balance in everything, nothing should be over the top, and Mephisto wasn’t…he was spot on, IMHO.
7. Reactions on Dulcie. Should we give her more time or less?
Dulcie was a curveball, I’ll admit, but I liked what you did with her. I find the concept of the Sith Maidens and their ways a fascinating take on the Dark Side in general and with Dulcie’s announcement and subsequent development, you managed to hold that fascination for me. Nice work.
8. How about this whole Tarahumaran concept? Did it work? We will be developing this more in Era 3, so don't worry- we'll learn more about them.
I was sceptical at first, but I think it worked out for the best.
9. Were there too many characters to follow this time around? If so, what would you rather have seen?
There were a lot of characters, but that made for a rich story that appealed to a lot of people.
10. Did the action scenes (pretty much any and all of them) exceed or fall below your expectations?
The action scenes were perfect as they are.
11. Was the climax spectacular or was it too huge and overarching? Was it satisfying or incomplete?
All I would really ask here, is that Mephisto get an even larger beating by Arcturus for all the death he’s caused and nearly caused (like Mazza’s attack).
12. Was the dialogue too juvenile? Formal? Unbelievable? Dead on?
The dialogue was mature and it flowed fairly well.
13. Were the characters developed over time in the series to a satisfactory degree?
Definitely. They started at one point and became something else in the end. Perfect arcs.
14. Were there any scenes in Destiny's Knights (or the series) that you think we could have focused on a little more? Taken less time to focus on?
Can’t really say. It all worked for me.
15. Were there any characters that deserved more time?
I think everyone got the right amount of time that they needed
16. On Jace- was he too weak? Was his mental state believable? Suggestions on the character?
Jace was believable. He kinda reminds me of Luke in some ways. In the end, though, he overcame his troubles and aspired to become one of the more powerful Jedi in the Order.
17. On Arcturus- was his change in character believable enough? Too fast? Suggestions on the character?
Arcturus was another well-done character. His development strikes a chord similar to the one struck by the Sith Maiden concept. I can understand the path he chose as he had little choice otherwise. I hope in the future we can see his powers amped up a bit more, or shown more often.
18. Mazza- could we have done more? Or was it enough? Any suggestions for her character?
Mazza’s a great supporting character, though in the future I wonder if perhaps more of her Mystril training could be put to use in situations that require stealth.
19. Did we tie up loose ends in the series?
Definitely, though I still think Mephhy’s alive
20. Could you recall enough of the previous adventures or do we need to remind the readers of what has gone before a little more often?
I’d have to go back and re-read everything to answer this one completely.
21. Where did we move too fast? Where did we linger too long?
The tempo was fine for me.
22. Were there any passages you found unnessecary?
Only the ones you didn’t write
23. Any critiques of our writing styles? Does it blend well enough now that we've achieved a certain plane?
I think the two of you have achieved a good balance between your writing styles. The mixture of posts blends very well to the point it feels less like two people posting and more like two people’s styles blending into a real literary smoothie.
Great job, guys and keep up the good work.
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Mystic_Tigress_Jedi
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8/21/03 5:22pm
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Don't worry, I'll be posting my answers soon. Just finishing them up! I'll have them up by tomorrow, I hope.
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8/24/03 5:32pm
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Aaarg! I missed the party the last time and had to read the second part of this fic all alone in an empty hall and now it looks like I've missed the end again. Really, this is the only thread that I enjoy the feedback as much as the fic.
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Grand_Admiral_Jaxx
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I'm at college now.
Thought you should know
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Grand_Admiral_Jaxx
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Whiskey--
Thanks so much for your comments. Like Casper's, they really are appreciated.
We'll be posting the cast list soon...I just want to run over and do a final check with excal to double/triple check, make sure that we have everyone
Adios!
--Jaxx
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sabrelight
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Waves to Jaxx.
Yep, I know your in college and very busy but thats no reason to forget old friends. You can at least say hi! 
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Grand_Admiral_Jaxx
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D'oh!
I knew my internet was funky when I got back to school...I just didn't know how funky. Or it's snotboards as usual.
Sorry about that, Sabre. I'm really glad to see that you're back on! I missed talking to you. Does this mean you're back home and everything's all stable, internet wise?
And, as further incentive that we didn't forget about you...you might want to read certain posts carefully...since you're in one of them (sort of )
Anyhoo, welcome back
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Yep ! I missed you guys too!
I may have to sit all through the night and read this fic. (You've made me super curious!)
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Take your time
Like I mentioned, excal and I will post the cast list sooner or later. It's just a question of timing, then we'll be ready in a jiffy!
--Jaxx
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8/31/03 11:41am
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Well, here is the cast list!
There have been a few changes over the years, but this is the list as of now
Arcturus Lynx Nick Stahl
Jace Pendragon Eric Johnson
Mazza Phobos Eliza Dushku
Kellilyn Corsaire Kristanna Loken
Grand Admiral Jaxx Hugo Weaving
Tyrus Spectre Christian Bale
Mephistopheles / Timil Birch Jason Isaacs
Zip Furio James Franco
Jenos Pendragon (younger)Heath Ledger (older)John Schneider
Sirius Lynx Josh Hartnett
Jan Lynx Milla Jovovich
Serena Pendragon (younger)Kiera Knightley (older)Michelle Pfeiffer
Dernan Masque Sean Connery
Heidi Amanoa Uma Thurman
Grand Admiral Xerxes Christopher Walken
Ty’lan Ravultar Samm Levine
Sair Yonka Matthew Broderick
Jeth Liggins (younger)Christopher Masterson (older)Greg Kinnear
Adira Blackmoon Anjelica Huston
Dulcie Burnsley Fann Wong
Lol Clemens Matt Damon
Bega Stall Cuba Gooding Jr.
Rela Pel Ti Liv Tyler
Fritz Valoria Elijah Wood
Trai’el Zhang Zhiyi
Ariel’ena Kate Winslet
Hrunting Michael Clarke Duncan
Stanislovas Murns Haley Joel Osment
Rudei Pariah Rudy Boesch
Carith Steele Tim Roth
Queen Taniaa of the Valerans Angelina Jolie
Sister Saysha Elizabeth Hurley
Magus Thrall Paul Newman
Admiral Mockin Kevin Spacey
General Durgall Denzel Washington
Jocelyn Bestaub Carrie-Ann Moss
Jun Been Bill Pullman
Mira Kel Pel Laura Prepon
Li Na Potan Jet Li
Wils Onvball Colin Hanks
Trent Draconis Michael Rosenbaum
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Up! Show us that you care!
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