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krnbanguboi 
Registered: Mar '05
22366_Clonetrooper
Date Posted: 10/23/05 5:54pm Subject: The Lightsaber Effects Thread - Date Edited: 5/31/06 8:57pm (2 edits total) Edited By: DVeditor
Alright. Many have noticed that I post alot of topics. So I decided to keep all my new effects and updates in this little thread here. I hope the moderators won't mind.

To start my new Effects Thread I decided to compare Ryan's old and new methods and Blake's method:

Ryan's Old method:
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Ryan's New method:
1.6mb-Click

Blake's glow method:
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All Clips in one for Easier Comparing:
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Also, be sure to check out the links here and here for more great lightsaber tutorials.


DV EDIT: Title changed at author's request

 

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NoLukky 
Registered: Aug '05
17658_Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon
Date Posted: 10/23/05 6:27pm Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
first of all i think ryan's old method is the best but what color r ur lightsaber suppose to be, becuase ryan's both methods are purple but the other method is more bluish for some reason so i dont know what color the lightsabers r suppose to be

-NoLuKKy-

 

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krnbanguboi 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 10/23/05 6:30pm Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
That's Batkin's glow method. It's supposed to be a rich blue.

 

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batkins182 
Registered: Jul '05
40102_Anakin
Date Posted: 10/23/05 6:32pm Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread - Date Edited: 10/23/05 6:33pm (1 edits total) Edited By: batkins182
Hey, could you send me the saber mattes and the unedited video so I can do the glows and tweek them and hopfully help you out. I think I'm on the trail to upgrade my method.

 

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krnbanguboi 
Registered: Mar '05
22366_Clonetrooper
Date Posted: 10/23/05 6:45pm Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
Sure. By the way this was the first time I tried your method and I like the excess of the glow give off. The frame rate is 15 and the video size is 320x240.

Empty Footage: RightClick>Save as...

SaberMatte:RightClick>Save as...

 

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Thrice3 
Registered: Mar '04
24180_Obi-Wan Art
Date Posted: 10/24/05 10:21am Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
Round those edges. Effect---> Noise---> Median

 

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ObiJuan2080 
Registered: Jan '04
39903_Obi-Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: 10/24/05 2:06pm Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
Something is wrong...I had to offset the two footages and the Black Matte saber still goes faster than the source footage

 

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krnbanguboi 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 10/24/05 2:36pm Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
weird. I didn't want to round the sabers because I just wanted to compare the glows.

 

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Kaat 
Registered: Apr '04
40078_Duel
Date Posted: 10/24/05 3:19pm Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
From the ones you've posted, I like the right one the most.

I've tried it, too. A bit unusual, but I kinda like how it turned out:

http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2KCOVIDVZZGIM2ITEOFR2486KG

 

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GuanoLad 
Registered: Jul '98
8160_Obi-Wan
Date Posted: 10/24/05 3:26pm Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
Why does this seem to be such an obsession for people? Considering how inconsistent light sabre glows are for each official movie, even within the same movie, why do people go so nuts over things so inconsequential?

 

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krnbanguboi 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 10/24/05 4:18pm Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
Kaat at 3 seconds into the clip the saber prop is visible about 1 meter away from the actual core. Though I do like the spreadness of color to the saber glow.

GuanoLad we like to create more sabers because we as fanfilm creators have our own perspectives on how sabers should look like. And if we settled for ILM's sabers then we'd be boring and bland and there would be no TFN.

 

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Kaat 
Registered: Apr '04
40078_Duel
Date Posted: 10/25/05 12:14am Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
krnbanguboi posted:
Kaat at 3 seconds into the clip the saber prop is visible about 1 meter away from the actual core.

Yeah, I noticed even while composing the thing. The footage was somehow damaged or something there so it didn't fit the saber matte at this very frame. But the rest was fine, so I didn't bother and hoped everybody would be so stunned away by the clip's coolness that noone would notice. grin

 

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krnbanguboi 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 10/25/05 10:22pm Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
So.. Batkins ya done yet. happy

 

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batkins182 
Registered: Jul '05
40102_Anakin
Date Posted: 10/25/05 10:27pm Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
I'm getting closer. I'm trying to update my method. Here are my new results for my more updated method...



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Kaat 
Registered: Apr '04
40078_Duel
Date Posted: 10/26/05 3:43am Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
Quite good. But I guess a slight desaturation of the sabers to fit the footage better would help here. wink

 

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Rhys 
Registered: Jun '05
39865_Darth Revan
Date Posted: 10/26/05 4:42am Subject: RE: Brian's Effects Thread
I did change around the method i was using a bit in the end, and got pretty much identical RvB glows (Which is what i set out to do originally). Though it's not much different from the method i posted a while back, which is again not that much different from Batkins' (although the glows do come out a bit different), the method i posted i think got the glows pretty much the same as RvB, but i haven't been able to play with that much since cos my pc got unintentionally wiped about two weeks ago. I do still have the files, which i recovered after format, but haven't got round to sorting them out yet.

Basically, what i did change deviated slightly from this, which is the method i put together with what i put in my thread, though even though that's an older clip it's pretty much what i was aiming for.

 

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