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Funk-E Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 1/12/05 12:54pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
	tumblemoster, I'm interested in specifics in what you're complaining about. Where, exactly, did he go wrong or state a falsehood? He was giving a review, and you're angry that he pointed out the negative aspects to an entry? I can understand the wish to have your ego stroked (good entry, yes, snookums), but what's the point? As far as I've seen, people are bitter about that single fact. Deal with it, kthx. -----signature----- I'm so adjective, I verb nouns. RIP George Carlin!
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SilverFox0440 Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 1/12/05 12:56pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
	It's not just in this competition, but on critiquing in general on this forum. People don't seem to understand the difference between constructive and strictly-positive. -----signature----- "ARFARG a new word? Or just gibberish/ you decide." "What IS Meatball?" http://www.HunterCarter.com/stagnation -- My Blog http://lokidoki.com/ -- MP3 Rotation http://www.2manshows.com/ - Free video and webhosting.
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gallion311 Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 1/12/05 1:08pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
	I get an error when I try to access the page to view the entries...am I doing something wrong? -----signature----- Michael always says "K-I-S-S. Keep it simple, stupid." Great advice. Hurts my feelings every time. - Dwight Schrute http://www.ryangallion.com http://retaliation.ryangallion.com <-- My latest X-Wing Dogfight Short. ::1st Place in the n00b film competitio
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durbnpoisn Title: TFN Staff Ca st & Crew Database Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 1/12/05 1:11pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
	Well, you've obviously broken the internet! Good going! But, seriously folks... I think that the main server is down because of bandwidth issues. This is why all the images on the voting page are broken... Search through the thread for the various mirrors that people set up. -----signature----- Fan Films Database: R.I.P. Cloning in AE: http://www.durbnpoisn.com/films/cloneTut/index.asp My Star Wars Fan Films: http://www.durbnpoisn.com/films
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gallion311 Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 1/12/05 1:21pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD - Date Edited: 1/12/05 1:25pm (1 edits total) Edited By: gallion311
	Still can't find any links to mirrors. If anyone knows where I can find one please let me know! Nevermind I found one...word. -----signature----- Michael always says "K-I-S-S. Keep it simple, stupid." Great advice. Hurts my feelings every time. - Dwight Schrute http://www.ryangallion.com http://retaliation.ryangallion.com <-- My latest X-Wing Dogfight Short. ::1st Place in the n00b film competitio
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Covax Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 1/12/05 1:22pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD - Date Edited: 1/12/05 1:24pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Covax
	SUMT came ... and went That it did… that it did... It could easily have been said that RvsD should have had Costumes and a Story I don’t understand why people keep forgetting that Ryan vs Dorkman did have a story… “What began as a friendly rivalry between two effects artists explodes off TheForce.Net's FanFilms Forum and into the real world in a lightsaber battle royale. Originally created for the forum's lightsaber choreography competition, this fight to the death will decide once and for all who is truly most skilled with a saber. There can be only one.” Anywho some guys have got to chill out with what they expected and wanted vs what they got, both for films and for reviews. From one point of view TFN choreography (even mine) is laughable compared to what's out there in amateur film. On the other hand look at something like Mukiai, done by professionals, and try to tell me it's really that much better than all of the Entires here. -----signature----- Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can do neither, critique. http://www.Key-Pixel.com
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georginiou Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 1/12/05 2:28pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
	No ones complaining. I thought all the entries were OK, some were good, some great. If someone takes the time out to actually put anything together it is an achievment as far as I'm concerned. But, in order to fully critique each entry, surely you have to be analytical, and so you cant help but compare to the best or worst you've seen. How can people get better without harsh criticism.
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tumblemoster Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 1/12/05 2:31pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
	tumblemoster, I'm interested in specifics in what you're complaining about. Where, exactly, did he go wrong or state a falsehood? He was giving a review, and you're angry that he pointed out the negative aspects to an entry? I can understand the wish to have your ego stroked (good entry, yes, snookums), but what's the point? As far as I've seen, people are bitter about that single fact. I'm not at all angry about the negative comments. I'm concerned about some of his assertions which I know to be incorrect. As buli said, he seems to come off as an expert, when it's obvious to an educated reader that he is not. He uses is supposed expertise to make obnoxious comments about an entry based not just on his opinion but on his strange assumption that he knows the topic.I'm not going any further. I'll post a very detailed reply to this question after the contest. -tm -----signature----- http://www.tumblemonster.com http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1984394/ http://www.youtube.com/tumblemonster http://twitter.com/tumblemonster
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winter_chili Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 1/12/05 2:32pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD - Date Edited: 1/12/05 2:35pm (1 edits total) Edited By: winter_chili
	Without specifics its just blather. -----signature----- The Mighty Blueonic One of the Neverending and Excruciatingly Painful Padawanship A-H-B-Y ~~! !~~ it is the duty of a patriot to defend his country from its goverment
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Nosh_Dir85 Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 1/12/05 3:21pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
	I feel bad that this good healthy competition started by Ryan in an attempt to have fun has turned into an arguement...but whatever. I guess its not an arguement...but people ARE getting mad. Bummer -----signature----- "Violent people see violent images, peaceful people see violent people seeing violent images "-Me Demo Reel - http://vimeo.com/3491663
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Cuban_Menace Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 1/12/05 3:38pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
	People have said bad things about my entry but I want to make this a learning experience. So far i would have to agree with most of it, dont get so bent out of shape. All of us that entered should be praised for the hard work and courage to post your work here where it will get highly critized, but that is the only way we will get better at this. Okay I am done with my 2 cents. -----signature----- Mortal Kombat Fire & Ice Coming soon!
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GrgurMG Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 1/12/05 3:48pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
	If someone already said this, forgive me.. but I felt like commenting right away.. "...especially knowing that nothing could ever beat the likes of RvD." ... I think something(s) already has(have). But that's all a matter of taste I suppose... but point being, it wasn't perfect. Neither are any of the entries this year.. but they ARE the one's we should be talking about. -----signature----- --------------------------------------------------- Michael F. Grgurev ---------------------- . . . .. Fan Film Community Music Video ...... http://members.aol.com/grgurmgspace/fanfilmmusicvid.mov http://members.aol.com/onenamek4u/musicvid_divx.zip
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NitroBlade Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 1/12/05 3:55pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
	Interesting direction this has taken. -----signature----- GEEKS UNDERGROUND http://geeksunderground.com [Jon Starr Films] [ http://www.JonStarrFilms.com ] [Jonathan Starr]
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SilverFox0440 Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 1/12/05 3:56pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
	They can't be "perfect" because the choreography quality is largely subjective -- otherwise, by now, Yuen Wo Ping or someone would've done the "ultimate choreography." -----signature----- "ARFARG a new word? Or just gibberish/ you decide." "What IS Meatball?" http://www.HunterCarter.com/stagnation -- My Blog http://lokidoki.com/ -- MP3 Rotation http://www.2manshows.com/ - Free video and webhosting.
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Primrodo Title: FF CR Emeritus London ON Canada Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 1/12/05 3:56pm Subject: RE: *LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III* VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
	Tumble, I don't think I'm defending Dorkman...did you see the spat we had in another thread? The fact is everyone is entitled to their opinions, negative or not. I remember last year Dorkman grilled the entry I was in, actually many did. Its a review, its his opinion, and it doesn't matter how he gives the review or what attitide is gleaned from his write-up. Its up to you to take what he said or disregard it. Like if this is how its to be then I won't post my own review, and thus why I am defending the right to review any such way. I review video games part time, and whereas some games I praise much, others I have given poor reviews. Its part of media, its part of life. *Sorry for going off topic if indeed I did. -----signature----- Justin Monk Co-Founder and Former Chapter Rep, London Rogues Fan Force, London ON CA Now a proud member of Young Jedi Niagara June 18th, 2005 The day I married my angel!
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