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Han-Sagan Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 3/11/05 10:29pm Subject: DVD burning problem
	afternoon chaps, I'm having a problem burning DVDs....everyone I do seems to come out very dark, even though the original m2v file is exactly the same as the DV footage. I've had this problem on a couple of different burners and systems now, so it must be something I'm missing or not clicking on. Has anyone come across this particular problem before? -----signature----- Angels 2200. Cute Girls. Tight Flightsuits. http://www.angels2200.com Other sites of interest. http://www.haynesfilm.com http://www.songofthehunted.com
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DVeditor Title: Fan Films Evil Overlord (manager) Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 3/11/05 10:46pm Subject: RE: DVD burning problem
	Well let's get some details... What platform are you running? What programs did you use to edit the video? What are you using (software + burner) to burn the discs? Is the darkness of the clip when you play the burnt DVD on your computer or on a TV? If you could provide that info for starters it'll be a lot easier to try and figure out what's going on. -----signature----- CK Hicks http://www.ckhicks.com http://dveditor.deviantart.com TFN on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2202937735
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VaporTrail Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 3/11/05 10:47pm Subject: RE: DVD burning problem - Date Edited: 3/11/05 10:49pm (1 edits total) Edited By: VaporTrail
	I haven't much/any (okay, none at all) experience with burning dvds, but I do wonder if it's something you're doing when you're setting it up. You're watching this on the same screen when you check to see how it looks, right? Hmm. Is there any form of compression involved that could screw it up? Sorry if this was useless. This is yet something I have to learn and acquire the resources to do. EDIT: Yeah, ^DV^ was helpful. I suck. Someone stop me from ordering those shirts from thinkgeek.com. I don't deserve them. ::disappears in a puff of counterproductiveness:: -----signature----- Fanfilmers shoot first and talk copyright later. http://www.vimeo.com/vaportrail/videos http://thespenceleyspoileriffic.blogspot.com/
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DVeditor Title: Fan Films Evil Overlord (manager) Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 3/11/05 11:10pm Subject: RE: DVD burning problem - Date Edited: 3/11/05 11:12pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DVeditor
	Lol, long day Vapor? Don't get down on yourself man. Hmm. Is there any form of compression involved that could screw it up? Actually compression could make quite a difference. I only know because I was creating weekly announcement videos for my church for a while and had to burn a disc every week. You learn reeeeeeeeeally fast what codecs work and which ones don't. You're watching this on the same screen when you check to see how it looks, right? Also what he's watching them on could be the problem too. Now for the REAL problem: Someone stop me from ordering those shirts from thinkgeek.com. Wha-? Come on, don't leave me out here all by myself...dude I have like checks 1/3 the posts you do - how am I supposed to justify a geek shirt if someone with way more posts than me won't grab one? (ok, that reason was really stupid. I think it's bedtime...) EDIT: Dang, it's more like 1/5 as many posts... -----signature----- CK Hicks http://www.ckhicks.com http://dveditor.deviantart.com TFN on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2202937735
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Han-Sagan Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 3/11/05 11:24pm Subject: RE: DVD burning problem
	I'm using PC....compressing in Premiere, and have output to DVD in both adobe encore 1.5 and some other DVD program I don't recall the name of with the same results....I'm working in PAL and viewing the output on the same monitor. Thats all the info I can think of for the moment -----signature----- Angels 2200. Cute Girls. Tight Flightsuits. http://www.angels2200.com Other sites of interest. http://www.haynesfilm.com http://www.songofthehunted.com
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DVeditor Title: Fan Films Evil Overlord (manager) Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 3/12/05 12:13am Subject: RE: DVD burning problem
	Ok, the first problem is you're using a PC. Sorry, had to get that out of the way. On a more serious note, I'm not sure if what I'll be suggesting in regards to watching the DVD will differ or not because your video is in PAL and mine would be in NTSC. I'm not 100% sure how the framerate affects things on that system but I'll do the best I can! Have you tried watching your DVD on a TV? If not I would try that first. About how much video (in minutes) are you trying to burn? Also, you might check in the manuals for whatever burning software you end up using to see if they mention certain codecs having a greater loss in quality than others. I assume you've already done that, but I'm just trying to think of everything. You might also check the settings (thanks, Vapor) of your burning app to make sure it's not adding any filters or anything to try and improve the look. Just a few ideas. Good luck! -----signature----- CK Hicks http://www.ckhicks.com http://dveditor.deviantart.com TFN on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2202937735
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braxtanFILM Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 3/12/05 12:22am Subject: RE: DVD burning problem
	Try it on a few different DVD players. I find a lot of DVDs play darker on a PC. -----signature----- I'm Hank Braxtan, and I approved this message. http://www.braxtanfilm.com Even on TF.N, I get no respect!
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Han-Sagan Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 3/12/05 12:50am Subject: RE: DVD burning problem
	I'm using a matrox card, so my PC video output goes straight to a TV...as far as I can see, there should be no difference :/ Its a puzzle.... I can't really do as many tests as I'd like til I get a DVD re-recordable -----signature----- Angels 2200. Cute Girls. Tight Flightsuits. http://www.angels2200.com Other sites of interest. http://www.haynesfilm.com http://www.songofthehunted.com
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DVeditor Title: Fan Films Evil Overlord (manager) Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 3/12/05 1:10am Subject: RE: DVD burning problem
	Actually it can make a lot of difference whether or not you use a DVD player or your computer. I suggest you try it to see if the problem exists elsewhere as well. Hmm, I'm not sure if using a DVD-RW will help you much here because of the encoding process a DVD goes through and also depending on the length of your video. Have you used those before? Later. -----signature----- CK Hicks http://www.ckhicks.com http://dveditor.deviantart.com TFN on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2202937735
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General_Rieekan Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 3/12/05 10:52am Subject: RE: DVD burning problem - Date Edited: 3/12/05 10:53am (1 edits total) Edited By: General_Rieekan
	when i have situations like this come up, i always look at two things - the method of compression and/or encoding, and the program used to do the burning. i try to keep multiple programs on my system so i have options when it comes to burning, as ive found that some programs better support some compressions/encodings than others. unfortunately, my best suggestion here is probably the most frustrating one someone can give. play around with any and every setting you can think of, both with the compression software and rhe burning software. eventually, i find anyway, i find the right combination to have everything work smoothly. if its a really pain-in-the-butt problem that takes a while to solve, im always sure to write down the exact method in which i used to solve the problem and keep it in a file folder marked 'Disc-Burning Methods'. this way, i dont have to waste a lot of time rediscovering the process over again... this was probably of little help to you, so take it for what its worth... -----signature----- Asking is just polite d-d-demanding: Max Headroom Im contemplating the last words of the immortal Socrates, who said...I drank what? - Val Kilmer Kid, you've got the attention span of a caffinated hummingbird... - Sasha Corelli
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Han-Sagan Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 3/12/05 3:20pm Subject: RE: DVD burning problem
	Thanks guys... I think general Rieekan might have the right idea....multiple tests....thats why I need the DVD RW, so I can do that without spending too much money on discs. -----signature----- Angels 2200. Cute Girls. Tight Flightsuits. http://www.angels2200.com Other sites of interest. http://www.haynesfilm.com http://www.songofthehunted.com
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DVeditor Title: Fan Films Evil Overlord (manager) Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 3/12/05 5:58pm Subject: RE: DVD burning problem
	Good deal. Hope it all works! -----signature----- CK Hicks http://www.ckhicks.com http://dveditor.deviantart.com TFN on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2202937735
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PixelMagic Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 3/12/05 6:32pm Subject: RE: DVD burning problem
	I didn't want to start another thread, so I will ask here. How do I convert an AVI file to VOB so that I can burn to DVD? -----signature----- http://danielbroadway.blogspot.com "A wise man tastes good, but a dumb man is easier to catch" -Codepoet
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DVeditor Title: Fan Films Evil Overlord (manager) Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 3/12/05 9:06pm Subject: RE: DVD burning problem
	What OS are you running, Pixel? -----signature----- CK Hicks http://www.ckhicks.com http://dveditor.deviantart.com TFN on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2202937735
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Semaj Ovured Registered: May '00	Date Posted: 3/12/05 10:30pm Subject: RE: DVD burning problem
	I'd also want to know what the bitrate is for the encoding of the m2v file ... -----signature----- STARFLEET RENEGADES http://www.starfleetrenegades.com RED ALERT!
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General_Rieekan Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 3/13/05 9:53am Subject: RE: DVD burning problem - Date Edited: 3/13/05 9:54am (2 edits total) Edited By: General_Rieekan
	if you dont have an DVD-RW, try using your burning software's 'simulation' mode. granted, sometimes the simulation will be fine and the actual burn wont work out, but sometimes its a good starting point indication of what speeds and variables you should use to burn your disc, without actually wasting a disc... -----signature----- Asking is just polite d-d-demanding: Max Headroom Im contemplating the last words of the immortal Socrates, who said...I drank what? - Val Kilmer Kid, you've got the attention span of a caffinated hummingbird... - Sasha Corelli
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