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majormorgan Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 8/23/05 12:19pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects
	Great tut Ryan. That will speed up my work no end as I'm finding I am having to revisit some of my old shots again and instead of copying the key frames again for the roto layers its gonna be easy dealing with just one roto layer. Great !! And the potential is extended greatly into laser beams as well. Same technique. Great !!! -----signature----- I Shoot. Edit. Move it around. Reshoot some more. Edit that. In the end, why stick to what you have got from principle photography? This is the digital realm, so every pixel is up for grabs http://www.morganfilms.co.uk
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AidanOnasi Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 8/23/05 1:30pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects
	I tried all the possible ways to make LS effect and I still think, that Michael Frisks method is the best... No offense, Ryan, you're cool. Where's your "not once, not twice, but (Yeah, you guessed it) thirce"? -----signature----- aka Martin Klekner Star Wars Shadows of the Past teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU-dJJGdUIk Power of the Dark Side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEsqPk4ipGw ... 100.000 hits! Blog: http://mksvisualfx.blogspot.com/
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CBB Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 8/23/05 1:35pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects - Date Edited: 8/23/05 1:48pm (2 edits total) Edited By: CBB
	Are you working on other different effects Ryan? Vibro-staff, force tricks or blaster effects etc.? Have you got new projects? I wondering because you're very popular in Turkey too, can we make a interview someday for Turkish Fan Site www.starwars.gen.tr ? -----signature----- "Imagination is more important than knowledge" http://www.cbbpictures.tk
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fireresq7 Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 8/23/05 1:41pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects - Date Edited: 8/23/05 1:43pm (1 edits total) Edited By: fireresq7
	hotshotmedic911 posted: DarthArjuna posted: Ryan, very nice. I think I'll be sticking with the old way, because I've been doing it for two and a half years... I've expanded enough on it that with shortcuts, it's almost as short as this method. But nevertheless, very nice work with the adjustment layers and such. And Joph, I said it before and I'll say it again, melikes :P I'll be sticking with the old method too. It seems easier and faster for me. Told ya ....old dogs!! lol I'm gonna have to agree with them though...old way for me!Atleast for now !!! I tried all the possible ways to make LS effect and I still think, that Michael Frisks method is the best... Michael Frisks method?? ~Rory -----signature----- Click here to view The Jedi Saga Website http://www.solid-roc.com Right Click here to see film http://www.solid-roc.com/movie/TheJediSaga.mov
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G-Unit Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 8/23/05 1:45pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects
	Isn't that the one done with Paint or something like that? -----signature----- Aaron Greer-Director/Writer/Producer http://www.nexthorizonfilms.com/ "I'd rather direct than produce. Any day. And twice on Sunday." Steven Spielberg Current Project- Gatekeeper
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AidanOnasi Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 8/23/05 1:46pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects
	Yeah, Michael Frisks, here it is, try it http://www.michaelfrisk.com/AESaberNEW.mov -----signature----- aka Martin Klekner Star Wars Shadows of the Past teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU-dJJGdUIk Power of the Dark Side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEsqPk4ipGw ... 100.000 hits! Blog: http://mksvisualfx.blogspot.com/
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Ryan_W Title: Fan Films: Emmy-Winning Lightsaber Geek Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 8/23/05 1:58pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects - Date Edited: 8/23/05 2:03pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Ryan_W
	if you like to roto that way, of course, you can use the Frisk method of painting for roto with this method, or the older one. You only need to have a white roto on black underneath all the adjustment layers, etc. I'm starting to wonder what some of you mean exactly, when you say the 'old' way is 'quicker' and 'easier'. (no 'more seductive' jokes.) Easier, I can understand, in that the 'old' way things are organized fairly simply into comps for roto, glow, and final composite. (or just roto/glow and final composite) And so I can see how it would be easier to understand and maybe keep track of. But at the same time, in the "new" way, everything is together in one comp working at once. It may be a little intimidating at first, but it's a bit more convenient, and required no comp switching when tweaking roto. I'm not sure that either way is necessarily faster. You're essentially doing the same stuff in both methods, just organizing it differently. Like I said, depending on how you like to rotoscope, the 'new' method may be quicker for tweaking, etc. I'm interested to hear more from the traditionalists. -----signature----- http://www.RyanVsDorkman.com http://www.twitter.com/RyanWieber
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krnbanguboi Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 8/23/05 2:03pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects
	Ryan I think your new saber method is cool but it really slows down the render. -----signature----- Plug-In Visuals (Forum) - http://www.pluginforums.tk
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DarthArjuna Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 8/23/05 2:05pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects
	It's not really faster. It's what I'm used to. I have a solid with a mask, additional masks if something blocks the middle of the blade; then when I'm done rotoscoping, I duplicate the masks (not the layers, duplicating the masks seems a bit tidier to me). I know that this new way probably is easier, especially once everything is all set up, but I've adapted your old way enough that while it's not inherently faster, it is still something that I am very comfortable with and am very pleased with the results from. -----signature----- Andrew Hookway http://www.freewebs.com/pressenterproductions What IS Meatball? 8=======}>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Sith-Lord_James and Alana:
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DarthLowBudget Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 8/23/05 2:05pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects
	Well, he thing I like about this is that I can do things in one comp. Some of my saber experimentations have gotten drawn out into rediculous chains of nested comps. Ugh. -----signature----- "We Will Spread Rational Inquiry By The Sword!" I may be wrong but I am NEVER in doubt.
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Ryan_W Title: Fan Films: Emmy-Winning Lightsaber Geek Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 8/23/05 2:06pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects - Date Edited: 8/23/05 2:07pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Ryan_W
	Ryan I think your new saber method is cool but it really slows down the render. Realistically, if you use the same ammount of glow layers, blur, bits per channel settings, etc. as the 'old' method, this one should be just as fast, or if anything, faster. The way I figure. -----signature----- http://www.RyanVsDorkman.com http://www.twitter.com/RyanWieber
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AidanOnasi Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 8/23/05 2:12pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects - Date Edited: 8/23/05 2:13pm (1 edits total) Edited By: AidanOnasi
	The thing I really hate on your method is moving with the points when rotoscoping.It's really slow. I like when I can just paint the white line -----signature----- aka Martin Klekner Star Wars Shadows of the Past teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU-dJJGdUIk Power of the Dark Side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEsqPk4ipGw ... 100.000 hits! Blog: http://mksvisualfx.blogspot.com/
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krnbanguboi Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 8/23/05 2:14pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects
	constructive material? Ryan yeah i guess it would be the same. -----signature----- Plug-In Visuals (Forum) - http://www.pluginforums.tk
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Ryan_W Title: Fan Films: Emmy-Winning Lightsaber Geek Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 8/23/05 2:17pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects
	AidanOnasi posted: The thing I really hate on your method is moving with the points when rotoscoping.It's really slow. I like when I can just paint the white line That's fine, I'm not telling you which way to roto, just using masks as the example. Your misunderstanding is that the method here isn't about the rotoscoping, it's about how to generate the glows and composite it all onto your shot. Like I said several times, now, you can use any method of rotoing you like (including painting) and it will work fine. -----signature----- http://www.RyanVsDorkman.com http://www.twitter.com/RyanWieber
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Funk-E Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 8/23/05 2:18pm Subject: RE: New lightsaber video-tutorial for After Effects
	I like when I can just paint the white line But most of the time it's not a line, it's a big ol' triangle. -----signature----- I'm so adjective, I verb nouns. RIP George Carlin!
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