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RocketGirl Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 1/14/08 10:38am Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	DVCPRO-HDeditor posted: Well, then, how about we find a voice actor from New Zealand to record all the Stormie dialog and just say that they're clones? Well, cuz if this is set during the Rebellion--or even right before it--we really don't need to; movie Stormies don't have a Kiwi accent, so neither should ours. I'm just wondering what Lucas's explanation for the vocal discrepancy is. DVCPRO posted: Anyway, what about my idea of a "test scene" to see if this green screen idea would fly? Anybody up for writing it, or should I put some coffee on myself? RocketGirl, do you have any "deleted scenes" from your film that we might be able to use? Um...you've seen my trailer, right? Any deleted scenes I've got wouldn't exactly fit...unless you mean scenes from my script which I could just hand out...which I really don't. I thought I had a scene--I remember typing it up--but it's not in my script any longer; guess I took it out entirely. Weird. It wasn't much, just the delegates from the Rebellion being given the kind of "Don't scratch your butt, speak when spoken to, be polite, call him 'Governor' or 'Your Honor'..." kind of speech you usually give people you think are uncouth or low class when they're going to meet someone important. Not sure what happened to it. Never did record it, never even cast the role; replaced the part with a protocol droid. -----signature----- Introducing new Dark Side RocketGirl™: Quicker, Easier, More Seductive!™ "Duuude, the fat guy totally just blew up!" -Pink Five My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicDance Read my webcomic: http://kanirabaxter.comicgenesis.com/
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Daramin_of_The_Way Title: Former Spokantina FF CR Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 1/14/08 10:55am Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	DVCPRO-HDeditor posted: Anyway, what about my idea of a "test scene" to see if this green screen idea would fly? Anybody up for writing it, or should I put some coffee on myself? RocketGirl, do you have any "deleted scenes" from your film that we might be able to use? EDIT: An idea just occurred to me. The forte of most of the folks on this forum is film making, editing, compositing, and so on . . . . so why not try to recruit some Star Wars fan fic authors to work on a story for the project? We could even form a committee to discuss story elements and such, but ultimately let the writers, y'know, write the thing. raises hand Does the scene have to pertain to the Rebellion era or do you just need a test script, because I would be willing either way. There is a program called CeltX that is a free ware screenplay program and I could easily put together a five minute script, or pull out something old and dusty from my archives and use that. -----signature----- May the peace of God be on you "You're the respectful one, remember?"
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backdeskproductions Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 1/14/08 10:59am Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	I'm sure there's someone around here who has something we could use as test footage. Good idea on the Fan Fic authors committee. We could then focus on getting some hard drive space available and searching out some potential directors (being the contributing filmmakers) and maybe even talent. -----signature----- I now have surround sound capabilities! I just need a project to exploit my newly discovered powers. Tee hee -Jon C. Maxwell
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DVCPRO-HDeditor Registered: Nov '06	Date Posted: 1/14/08 11:13am Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea - Date Edited: 1/14/08 12:00pm (3 edits total) Edited By: DVCPRO-HDeditor
	Daramin_of_The_Way posted: Does the scene have to pertain to the Rebellion era or do you just need a test script, because I would be willing either way. Well, I can't really speak for everyone, but I think it would be nice if it were to pertain to the Rebellion era. It doesn't have to, but that would be awfully nice. backdeskproductions posted: Good idea on the Fan Fic authors committee. We could then focus on getting some hard drive space available and searching out some potential directors (being the contributing filmmakers) and maybe even talent. Yeah, I'm full of good ideas. Maybe a committee dedicated to overseeing a project of this magnitude would be beneficial - to keep everything connected, and help move things along. Anyway, if we had a few people who could be genuinely dedicated to filming this, then we could search the 501st and Rebel Legion databases for costumed folks in those areas. While they may or may not have acting chops, they've usually got the look down. In the last half hour, I've found Wookiees, Twi'leks, a couple of Gamorreans, some protocol droids, various bounty hunters (and variations on Mandalorian armor not seen in the original films), Stormtroopers, Imperial officers, Rebel pilots, and just about everything else that most fan films lack. Now, where's the R2 Builders' Society site . . . . It would, of course, be the responsibility of the Unit Director to report in to the Production Committee regarding any delays or problems with filming. Even if there were just three Filming Units (say, Florida, London and New York), this would still be a huge kriffing project, with all sorts of potential problems and snags that we can't even begin to foresee. All that being considered, I'm still interesting in not only seeing it done, but working with other people to git-r-done. EDIT: I posted over on the Fan Fic Resource board. We'll see what develops. Re-EDIT: Am I the only one who finds it funny that an idea like this is forming in the shadow of LCC VI? -----signature----- "Murder is not a bannable offense here on TFN." ~ AdamBertocci Let Me Google That For You: http://tinyurl.com/5p4arw
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HyperionRising Registered: Sep '07	Date Posted: 1/14/08 12:11pm Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	Um, hi. Someone posted a request for assistance with plot in the fanfic section. Is there anything in particular you guys are having trouble with? Or would anyone care to give me an overview of what you've got so far (Summarizing is good. It makes you think things out.)? -----signature----- The Shattered Galaxy: http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=27470222&brd=10477&start=27470240 Adventure. Romance. AU. A depressing lack of Ewoks. Padawan of SIthGirl132 Proud Master of thesporkbewithyou
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Jade_Max Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 1/14/08 12:19pm Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	HyperionRising posted: Um, hi. Someone posted a request for assistance with plot in the fanfic section. Is there anything in particular you guys are having trouble with? Or would anyone care to give me an overview of what you've got so far (Summarizing is good. It makes you think things out.)? holds up hand I'm from the fanfic board too, so yeah... same goes for me. I'm not quite sure what you guys are looking for, but a summary of what you've got would be helpful... -----signature----- You'll Like me when I'm Dead - V/P Dark Drama - http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/29236355 Don't think, write. And have faith that your subconscious mind is smarter than you.- lazy RIP my babies; Nibbler, Boo & Mister Magoo
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RocketGirl Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 1/14/08 12:19pm Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	DVCPRO-HDeditor posted: Anyway, if we had a few people who could be genuinely dedicated to filming this... As much as I'm still working on The Last Remnants, I like this idea enough that I would be willing I spend some time animating space scenes, just to see this project made. DVCPRO posted: Re-EDIT: Am I the only one who finds it funny that an idea like this is forming in the shadow of LCC VI? I don't find it funny, so much as natural (and long overdue) backlash against Jedi-centric fan filmery... -----signature----- Introducing new Dark Side RocketGirl™: Quicker, Easier, More Seductive!™ "Duuude, the fat guy totally just blew up!" -Pink Five My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicDance Read my webcomic: http://kanirabaxter.comicgenesis.com/
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DVCPRO-HDeditor Registered: Nov '06	Date Posted: 1/14/08 12:20pm Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea - Date Edited: 1/14/08 12:22pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DVCPRO-HDeditor
	Uh, yeah, that was me. Hi. We've got the overall idea of a story set in the early days of the Rebellion, or at least somewhere in that big Galactic Civil War/Dark Times era. There are no definite characters as of yet, and no real "big goal" decided upon. About the only thing that we've settled upon is the time period. All we really want to do, I believe, is have a film that tells a story dealing with the Rebellion without focusing on the Jedi overmuch. Smugglers, spies, Stormtroopers, and the like are all fun and fair game. -----signature----- "Murder is not a bannable offense here on TFN." ~ AdamBertocci Let Me Google That For You: http://tinyurl.com/5p4arw
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RocketGirl Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 1/14/08 12:28pm Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	Right...it doesn't even necessarily have to be ABOUT the Rebellion, so much, though I personally would love it to be. I like the idea of seeing "behind the scenes", the sort of things that go on on the periphery of the Galactic Civil War. Things which, perhaps, support the war, but aren't directly involved in the fighting: covert ops, supply lines, intelligence gathering, recruiting, that sort of thing. 'Course, those are my personal preferences; the others involved in this project may have other ideas. -----signature----- Introducing new Dark Side RocketGirl™: Quicker, Easier, More Seductive!™ "Duuude, the fat guy totally just blew up!" -Pink Five My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicDance Read my webcomic: http://kanirabaxter.comicgenesis.com/
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HyperionRising Registered: Sep '07	Date Posted: 1/14/08 12:31pm Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	Okay. Let's start by narrowing the topic down a little. Formation of the Rebellion? Rebel victory? I'd suggest the story of how they got the Death Star plans, but there's a cannon short story about that already and besides, it involves too many aliens. Also, what perspective do you want this thing told from? Imperial? Rebel? Outsider, such as CorSec? Multiple? Who is this story about? According to the writer of the Star Trek episode "The Trouble With Tribbles," a main characer (Note that I don't say hero: your main character may not be the one doing all the good deeds. They may even be trying to stop the hero.) has to have to important traits: 1. They must be hurt by the situation or problem of the story. 2. They must have the freedom to act. That could mean a whole lot of people, so let's start throwing out ideas. Everyone who feels up to it, please brainstorm a paragraph or so long character bio (Bulleted lists are fine. This is an excersize in character building, not coposition.). Then we'll take either whole characters or aspects thereof and work with them. -----signature----- The Shattered Galaxy: http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=27470222&brd=10477&start=27470240 Adventure. Romance. AU. A depressing lack of Ewoks. Padawan of SIthGirl132 Proud Master of thesporkbewithyou
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DVCPRO-HDeditor Registered: Nov '06	Date Posted: 1/14/08 12:35pm Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	I'm guessing that the perspective would be largely from the Rebel side of things, with a bit of a fringe element thrown in. An independent freighter captain (y'know, a smuggler) whose father fought in the Clone Wars on the side of the CIS. She grew up hating the Republic-turned-Empire, and as such stays as far away from the Empire as possible. She might be human, but maybe not - a female alien freighter captain would certainly have an interesting perspective on Imperial activities and the likely success of a Rebellion. -----signature----- "Murder is not a bannable offense here on TFN." ~ AdamBertocci Let Me Google That For You: http://tinyurl.com/5p4arw
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jmsbndgrl Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 1/14/08 12:44pm Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	Ok, I'm from the fanfiction boards too and saw your note. I think from the "writers" perspective, you need to not only define a basic plot, but your genre focus. For example, we have some writers who can write some incredible fight sequences. However, there are those of us that might focus less on that and focus more on characters and what they are thinking or feeling at a given point in time (like me). If I had to pick my writing strengths it is writing natural dialogue between characters, relationship building, and writing cliffhangers to drive a story onward. However, that might not be all that you are looking for, so I guess we need to know if you are more geared towards action, or to characters. My opinion as a writer is you really want a mix of both because "Star Wars" is not all action. There are character relationships that help drive the plot as well, so if you are going to be consistent with the source material you probably want to balance action with whoever your characters are. Defining a basic plot even if it is only a couple lines can help us see what you are looking to do and can see if there is any help we can provide based on our strengths. -----signature----- "Even accountants have imagination." - Vesper Lynd - Casino Royale Angel #3 - An Obi-Wan fan lost in a world of Anakin fangirls! Blondes may have more fun, but Edward prefers brunettes!
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HyperionRising Registered: Sep '07	Date Posted: 1/14/08 12:48pm Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	DVCPRO-HDeditor posted: I'm guessing that the perspective would be largely from the Rebel side of things, with a bit of a fringe element thrown in. An independent freighter captain (y'know, a smuggler) whose father fought in the Clone Wars on the side of the CIS. She grew up hating the Republic-turned-Empire, and as such stays as far away from the Empire as possible. She might be human, but maybe not - a female alien freighter captain would certainly have an interesting perspective on Imperial activities and the likely success of a Rebellion. Okay, that sound's like a solid perspective to work from. As for your character, I really like her. That she has hatered for the Empire as an extention of the Republic is very original. I'd advise making her human for two reasons: first, it makes her easier for the audience to associate with, and second I actually think that an human's perspective on the growing anti-alien prejudice would be more interesting, especially if she had a close associate who wasn't human. Also, I may not know much about makeup, but making a realistic alien other than a near-human would take a lot of money. Actually, a near human, who could be mistaken for a human by aliens but not by most (sober) humans, could be even more interesting. Any one else have anything? -----signature----- The Shattered Galaxy: http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=27470222&brd=10477&start=27470240 Adventure. Romance. AU. A depressing lack of Ewoks. Padawan of SIthGirl132 Proud Master of thesporkbewithyou
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RocketGirl Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 1/14/08 12:55pm Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	jmsbndgrl posted: Ok, I'm from the fanfiction boards too and saw your note. I think from the "writers" perspective, you need to not only define a basic plot, but your genre focus. For example, we have some writers who can write some incredible fight sequences. However, there are those of us that might focus less on that and focus more on characters and what they are thinking or feeling at a given point in time (like me). Okay, good point. Well, given the collaborative nature of this project, I think we should concentrate more on dialogue than on straight-up action; it'll just make it easier to film, especially if much of the communication happens via viewscreen rather than in-person. However, given the CG nature of a space battle, that could be the kind of fighting we go far, as opposed to blaster combat. Personally, I think the idea of making this idea too big could be a real issue; I know there's a tendency in this community to go for the gigantic fan film that depicts universe-shaking events, but I think that's a mistake. Instead, we should be focusing on a smaller portion of the Galactic Civil War, the lesser-known battles, the intelligence coups, or the people whose lives were touched by the Rebellion without ever actually being in it. For example, my own fan film is about a small team of Rebels who go to Rim worlds, trying to recruit them into the Alliance. They just happen to end up at a certain planet at the same time as a Star Destroyer looking to enslave the place, and hilarity ensues. No, it's not universe-shaking, but it's still a rip-roaring adventure story. I think that's the scale we should be going for, as opposed to something that culminates in this huge event that has repercussions and implications for the Galaxy, the War, and Everything Else (which sounds like the title of a Hitchhiker's Guide book; end digression). With that in mind, I think that, perhaps, the story ought to focus on a smallish team of Rebels who are doing...something, I don't know what exactly. Maybe three to four Rebel characters. Two to four Imperial bad guys for the opposition. A plot involving something significant to the Rebellion, perhaps troop movements, plans to attack a specific planet, getting a Senator with Rebel affiliations out of danger from being found out by Imperial spies...that sort of thing. -----signature----- Introducing new Dark Side RocketGirl™: Quicker, Easier, More Seductive!™ "Duuude, the fat guy totally just blew up!" -Pink Five My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicDance Read my webcomic: http://kanirabaxter.comicgenesis.com/
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HyperionRising Registered: Sep '07	Date Posted: 1/14/08 1:00pm Subject: RE: Jedi vs Sith prequel movie idea
	You bring up avery good point. If this is going to be a project with actors all over the country (world?), you may want to focus on more than one person/group of people, then pull them together at the end. -----signature----- The Shattered Galaxy: http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=27470222&brd=10477&start=27470240 Adventure. Romance. AU. A depressing lack of Ewoks. Padawan of SIthGirl132 Proud Master of thesporkbewithyou
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