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JediDrew Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 9/9/02 12:42pm Subject: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	Okay...I bid on the camera from ebay and I'm not the winning bidder..... But the guy e-mails me and tell me he needs the money urgent and was wondering if i would like to buy the camera for 1600.00 Its a brand new canon xl1s...the price sounds to good to be true. I'm wondering what you guys think....you think its to good to be true? I asked the guy if we can go through ebay...just so I felt safe. but i'm here...really thinking about it. I need some opinions. -----signature----- I've earned my living thanks to science, so to me, there's nothing greater.--Cid Highwind (Final Fantasy 7) No one lives in the slums because they want to. It's like this train. It can't run anywhere except where its rails take it.- Cloud Strife (FF7)
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JediTAC Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 9/9/02 1:07pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!! - Date Edited: 9/9/02 1:12pm (3 edits total) Edited By: JediTAC
	I think it probably IS too good to be true. I would have a hard time trusting someone I did not know without some kind of reasonable express written money-back gaurantee if you are not completely satisfied. Otherwise, I fear that you will be taking a great chance with this kind of deal. There is a very good chance that the item is possibly stolen, or missing all kinds of necessary parts/equipment that you will need to spend tons of money on anyways. ALSO, I have a hard time believing that someone is willing to sell a legitimate product that is that new for that low a price. Honestly, Drew ... I know you are excited and all .. but DO THE RIGHT THING and save the money to purchase your camera from a reliable source (i.e. B&H Photo, a trusted camera shop in your area .. or even from CANON directly). Any deal that does not provide an in-tact/valid factory warranty is suspect IMHO. JediTAC Self-Righteous Avenger of Preventing Drew from getting SCREWED.
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DaftMaul Title: Former TFN Fan Films Staff Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 9/9/02 1:12pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	I don't quite understand. If you aren't the winning bidder then the camera isn't yours to buy, it's for the person with the winning bid to buy surely? If the guy selling the camera on eBay isn't going to let the winnig bidder buy it I would have to ask why not? Check out his rating, if he doesn't have one, then I would just be wary. -----signature----- DARK SKIES : http://www.darkskies.info STORM AHEAD : http://www.stormahead.com I hope Obama gets in. I really hope you don't shoot him if he does.
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Saintstoryteller Registered: Sep '00	Date Posted: 9/9/02 1:18pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	DO NOT BUY THIS CAMERA IF YOU HAVE NOT WON IT ON EBAY! If you pay this guy outside of the ebay auction, you will have no proof of the transaction as your name will not appear on any record. Just from this offer I would stay away, sounds shady to me. Saint -----signature----- http://www.timthomerson.com
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JediDrew Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 9/9/02 1:20pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!! - Date Edited: 9/9/02 1:23pm (2 edits total) Edited By: JediDrew
	Thanks for the opinion ALL...I forgot to mention this... 1. He listed evrything that comes with the camera...So that way i will know everything is there. 2. He has GREAT feedback on ebay 1557 positive and he is a power seller. and has a comapny name and store "aden" 3. I will make sure we go through ebay...so I am protected through whatever protection ebay offers. factoring these "guidlines" or whatever you wanna call them...does it change anyone opinions? here is a link to the auction...just incase you want to check it out....Everything the auction says applies to my deal with him. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1379400253 EDIT:::: Changed some spelling errors -----signature----- I've earned my living thanks to science, so to me, there's nothing greater.--Cid Highwind (Final Fantasy 7) No one lives in the slums because they want to. It's like this train. It can't run anywhere except where its rails take it.- Cloud Strife (FF7)
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Captain_Ido Registered: Sep '02	Date Posted: 9/9/02 1:33pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	I have read a few articles warning about this very thing. I would love a gl1 but I would love it to work. If people warn against it and you do it..... It is sort of like Willy Wonka. I think everyone is calling "wait! Don't! Stop!" and your heading right to the chocolate river Agustas. Be careful! -----signature----- http://www.rebelfleet.com
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kryptofailin Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 9/9/02 1:48pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	In the end, it's really your money. Personally, I would be wary. Just because you deal with him over ebay doesn't make it safe. You never know what might slip through the cracks. $1600... that's less than half price... By the way, if you can hold off and save more money, rumor is PANASONIC is coming out with a new camera that's supposed to have more cinematic capabilities. 24fps or 30fps on DV. It ain't cheap, but if you're looking for a quality camera, this may be the next big thing. AG-DVX100: $3,795 http://www.panasonic.com/PBDS/subcat/Products/cams_ccorders/f_ag-dvx100.html -----signature----- "We'll fix it in post. Make it a cat."
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JediDrew Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 9/9/02 1:51pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	nah...that panasonic is nice but to much money....i really just need opinions on this deal...thanks anyway. -----signature----- I've earned my living thanks to science, so to me, there's nothing greater.--Cid Highwind (Final Fantasy 7) No one lives in the slums because they want to. It's like this train. It can't run anywhere except where its rails take it.- Cloud Strife (FF7)
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mpfjr Registered: Sep '01	Date Posted: 9/9/02 2:05pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	I found this to be interesting "YOU WILL ONLY BE CONTACTED BY US THROUGH, AND ONLY THROUGH EBAY@ADENCAMERA.COM. IF YOU ARE CONTACTED BY ANY OTHER EMAIL ADDRESSES, PLEASE REPORT IT TO EBAY IMMEDIATELY " So, was it this e-mail address that contacted you? -----signature----- Signature: Small amount of text shown at the bottom of each of your messages. 250 character limit. Markup codes are NOT allowed.
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andakin Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 9/9/02 2:24pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	It could be good, or it could be bad. Proceed with caution. -----signature----- Current FZ Finished Footage Progress-o-meter 34 minutes, 37 seconds, 16 frames FZ Site and Teaser: http://www.rightfield.com/milk/fz.html http://s88115220.onlinehome.us/
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JediDrew Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 9/9/02 2:31pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	Mp.....I also saw that....thats the e-mail that contacted me...but and i also sent that same e-mail another e-mail just confirming...and yes....same guy. -----signature----- I've earned my living thanks to science, so to me, there's nothing greater.--Cid Highwind (Final Fantasy 7) No one lives in the slums because they want to. It's like this train. It can't run anywhere except where its rails take it.- Cloud Strife (FF7)
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AWB1989 Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 9/9/02 2:54pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	It said under payment info or whatever: no returns, no refund, only 10 days for returns on defective items or something, so i'd say don't get it on this auction. -----signature----- Papiere! Na deine Papiere, mein Kleiner! Ohne Papiere bist du hier schlimmer dran als nackt am Nordpol! jeg tror, jeg har udtrykket mig klart nok!
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fourfools Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 9/9/02 3:11pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	i do ebay a lot, and feedback is a precious thing, i myself would have no problem buying this, i would suggest though that you agree to bid it up till you are high bidder, then have him end the auction and sell it to you early at whatever price you agree too. And if you are really worried, find out if he will do one of the following: use an escrow service, (offer to pay for this, well worth the safety) check ebay's help, i think they list some of the biggest and best. or ask if he will accept COD, if he is shipping UPS/FedEx, they will accept the cash on delivery and give it to him, again, offer to pay any fees for doing this. it's quite possible he is just low on cash, needs to pay some bills, and is taking a loss, the chances of someone with feedback that high and good screwing you is slim, it takes a long time, and lots of transactions to get a feedback that high, and he's been registered since 1999. but as others have said, it's your money, if you're not comfortable don't do it, talk with him on the phone, feel him out, if anything is weird don't buy it, and whatever you do, don't do something without any records, it's hard enough to collect money even with records. -----signature----- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompentant..." - Hari Seldon Acketon Studios http://www.acketon.com Star Wars: Dark Frontier
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SilverFox0440 Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 9/9/02 3:18pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	I think the stuff MP quoted sounds incredibly fishy. It sounds as if he was trying to appear to be an official Ebay statement, the way he worded it. It may say ebay, but the domain name of the email account is obviously not ebay's. However, he might just have an email account set up on his domain name that he uses specifically for ebay, but that seems unlikely. I would not give him the benefit of the doubt. I've read a lot on this and seen several episodes of TechTV's cyber crime about this, and I'm skeptical. I rarely buy electronics over the net, at least from auction sites, because of the high probability that they are messed up. -----signature----- "ARFARG a new word? Or just gibberish/ you decide." "What IS Meatball?" http://www.HunterCarter.com/stagnation -- My Blog http://lokidoki.com/ -- MP3 Rotation http://www.2manshows.com/ - Free video and webhosting.
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JediTAC Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 9/9/02 3:57pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!! - Date Edited: 9/9/02 3:57pm (1 edits total) Edited By: JediTAC
	I dunno ...... I would rather hear from someone I TRUST (perhaps a trusted member of the TFN community), than simply rely on Feedback points and comments. It's pretty easy to manufacture those and boost your "rating". How on earth could a guy sell off a $3000.00 camera for $1,600.00 ??? I suppose if he was REALLY in dire need of money, it's possible. I guess I would just be a bit more cautious with my money. I guess the bottom line is ... LET THE BUYER BEWARE
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fourfools Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 9/9/02 3:59pm Subject: RE: Canon XL1s...I think I got a great deal and I need your Help!!
	silverfox, you are mistaken, the email address is very common like that, after doing a little research on adencamera, they seem to be a legit, business, they list multiple locations in canada that they have shops, and a whois search on the domain name shows up with conact info, and that it has been registered since 1997. it is incredibly unlikely that this is a scam, it is too elaborate. There are many scam camera sales on ebay, but they are plainly obvious, they are almost always done by people with new accounts, copy and pasted listings, and they usually demand wire transfers only, and many times they live in malaysia, russia, etc. it might be comforting to contact the business and make sure this is not some pissed off employee doing this to get back at the buiness or something. -----signature----- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompentant..." - Hari Seldon Acketon Studios http://www.acketon.com Star Wars: Dark Frontier
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