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Bobobear  148 posts
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Date Posted: 1/11/05 9:12pm Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
254 votes is really like 80 people.

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tumblemoster  2405 posts
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Date Posted: 1/11/05 9:18pm Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
I also have to agree with Nitroblade. I think it's important to remember that it's all about personal preference in the end. Nothing about any particular entry necessarily makes them better than another, at least quantitatively. But subjectively, we all have a very unique feeling of what we believe is good choreography. Some people think wire work is cheating, others believe having a popular face is an unfair advantage. Still others will vote for their favorite person, regardless of their entry (hell, I'm voting for myself for damned sure!). Some people, while not purposely doing it, take into account things that, strictly speaking, should not be factors in the contest (like effects, for example). There is nothing you can do about it. This contest is about opinion, and no opinion is right or wrong. It's about what appeals to you.

In that light, it doesn't matter what the judges say, because no matter what, you still know what you like. And speaking as someone who entered the contest, I can also tell you that a lot of criticism can be dismissed as well. The people posting reviews are judging based on what they see, but they really don't know what went into it. Maybe you ran out of rehearsal time, maybe something didn't end up working. Reviews are from the perspective of a viewer, based on their expectations and their taste.

So, don't worry so much about harsh reviews, take what they say, except the criticism you deem worthy, except the praise you deserve, and dismiss the rest.

I would also like to chime in a suggestion about the vote, for the next contest (hell, maybe this one). With this many entries, it would be hard to choose just one. However, weighted polls are troublesome (look at how many US states have rejected the idea over the years). My suggestion is a primary system. The first round, you choose the three you like best. The three to five entries with the most votes (unweighed) move on to the final vote, and everyone votes for their favorite. I think it would keep things fair, and also make for an exciting runoff at the end.

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Date Posted: 1/11/05 9:48pm Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
rdodson:

& DarthMeek&Mild:
"Those silly 05-ers."

Look at the date by my name. I was just kidding around about my "exalted status" of having registered a month earlier than the date by your name. I thought he was serious too, and I'm sure I know less about the forum's politics than you do.

 

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DorkmanScott  13900 posts
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Date Posted: 1/11/05 10:13pm Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
I agree with Tumble on the idea of primary and final voting.

Okay. Here we go again. I think maybe I should be cutting back on the play-by-play, especially with repetitive issues.

I’ll do my best...

Entry 2

Okay. You’ve got wires. The problem is, in my opinion, you waste their potential. The wire ideas were clearly thought up prior to the rest of the choreography and the rest of it was built around the gags. Because you did so MANY of them, none of them were particularly well-honed and very few of them had any real reason.

You used wires even for moves that you shouldn’t need wires to do. You REALLY needed wires to jump 2 feet at 0:19?

That’s the big problem overarching this entire entry. You have wires so you feel like you have to use them constantly. I would have rather seen three REALLY good wire gags than the ~dozen that we got. In many cases the combatant is clearly pulled off his feet/back/side, instead of even trying to sell that it was some kind of superpowered jump.

The overuse of the gag makes it stale very quickly, and using it so much means you haven’t had time to get comfortable in the rig and with the balance of the move, and outside of the gimmick the actual fight choreography doesn’t have much going for it. A lot of left-right[-down] again, with only the occasional kill shot.

The beginning from a narrative point of view is excellent. Even though the moves aren’t the best, it’s building intensity, and flowing well, which is what you want.

The shot starting at 0:28 is my favorite in this entry. If the fighting in the WHOLE entry had been of that intricacy and intensity, this would have been a much better fight scene.

0:37, guy in the yellow lenses just keeps his saber in place and does more of that nodding thing to “sell” the movement.

0:43 is where the choreography starts to lose its sense of fighting in favor of wire flying, and gets sloppy. The guy who goes in the air is clearly off-balance, and the guy in the dark glasses clearly helps him regain his balance when he lands, when he has a good couple seconds with his free saber hand to do something to the other guy, whose saber hand he is gripping firmly. This could have been a killshot – next time, we don’t need to see him land completely. Cut away so we don’t see the guy just standing there.

The kick following is very unsure on the part of the guy throwing it. The camera angle gives away that he isn’t confident in the kick, and it’s unclear where it lands, or why he (apparently) retreats backwards when he is in that moment at the advantage.

The shot at 0:46 made me say “Oh my God.” And not in a good way. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen that before, can’t remember where, but in that case I’m also pretty sure they cut at least 3 times to sell the move. Otherwise it looks like what it is, a guy dangling on wires and bungeeing back. I think they sped it up too.

The dragging feet in particular make you look like you’re dangling from wires. Overall a supremely problematic moment and the point where the wires really should have been re-thought.

I like the idea of putting the cameraman on the wires. That was very creative, should have used it more.

Starting at 0:58, there’s too much lagging stuff. The intensity in the drawn out wide shots starts to drop, and the boredom starts to kick in. The two short exchanges only exacerbate this, making it feel like you’re just trying to fill time. Nothing in those exchanges makes it worth the wait.

Killshot! 1:14! Slice! Nope, just some pushing.

1:21 is absolutely an unnecessary move. There’s nothing to it besides just more gratuitous wire-ness. If there’d been more fighting in the air – or a reason for them BOTH to jump up like that simultaneously, like something crazy happening to the ground – then cool. But at this point it takes us out of the action that kicks in afterward – I was left sitting there for a good 15 seconds concentrating not on what was going on in the fight, but why they’d both hopped into the air like that.

Afterward it’s picking up. The choreography is simple but you make it work all right. It could be made more exciting by more intense camera angles – there’s more to shooting a fight scene than 90-degree or 45-degree OTS angles, and closer angles can help a lot.

GAH! The back leg at 1:27 and again with the other fighter at 1:31 totally distracts me. It looks like the ankle came near to breaking there the way they drag it and makes me wince in horror.

Fights need more pauses in general, but I think this one took too much time to hang out in close-ups of the actors. I don’t feel the fighting was intense enough to require that many breathers.

Clever idea with the Force lightning there, and I definitely liked the wire drags.

The kip-up was clean and clearly high, which is impressive – but the camera angle makes it impossible to appreciate the skill involved. The same with the saber-grab. I liked the motion, but the angle made it feel flat.

Weird fourth-wall breakage at 1:43. If you’re going to acknowledge the camera in a cartoony fashion like that, we need an eyebrow wiggle or smirk or something. The stare is just distracting.

And the middle-class-man’s (can hardly say poor man’s with a rig like that) bullet time shot. Again, the balance in the rig is clearly that of people hanging in harnesses from wires at the hips, because that’s where your center of gravity is in your performance. If you were going for a Neo-Smith, you should have gotten comfortable hanging more horizontally.

And then the spidermonkey. But his jump is actually the best, and most fluid move in the entire entry. The timing of him actually performing a jump as he was being pulled up, instead of just waiting to be yanked upward and leaving the legs limp. You should learn from him. Although the first shot with him the timing when he was pulled back up he was clearly not prepared for it, you should work on communication between the flyers and the actors.

A lot of potential in that rig, but I would like to see next time stunts that grow organically from the choreography rather than choreography built to put some wire gags in. This is just like learning how to make photorealistic CG stuff. Now that you can, don’t. Unless you need to, to tell you story.

Speaking of CG, though, the wire removal work is extremely clean in 99% of the shots. I am impressed.

I would also say that clearly the gentleman in the glasses is the more agile of the two. Since the fight was meant to be seen as more of an even match, tailor your fighting to the more limited of the combatants so that everyone looks good.

I look forward to seeing more from this team though, now that they’ve got the resources to take this stuff to another level. I hope very much they also have the DISCRETION to do so.

Whew. Next...

M. Scott

 

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DorkmanScott  13900 posts
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Date Posted: 1/11/05 10:46pm Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
Entry 3

You guys attempt a level of intensity, and that’s good. The choreography isn’t the best of the lot, for sure. In fact the first exchange seems to be one combatant does the three moves and leg swipe, then the other does.

The stab is a good break, but it just stays there until it’s batted away. Definitely should have cut to the next shot on the action. Pretty much the case across the board – just about every shot should cut out a second to a second and a half sooner.

Posture is an issue here. The combatants, especially the one in blue, look very off balance and it’s very distracting from the choreography.

I don’t understand why the person with the double blasters was included in this entry. Blocking blaster bolts isn’t choreography, it’s flailing with matched animation. The bolts also move way too slowly to look like anything but animated lines. Reminds me of Pong.

And then the blasters stop shooting around 0:34 for no real reason, and wait ten seconds before they start in again. Integration of the elements is a big issue here.

The combatants in that ten second exchange are standing too far apart for any sense of danger.

In most cases, what I think makes for good choreography is if you look at the moves and can see that, if the guy hadn’t blocked, the weapon would have hit him. In most entries I don’t find that happening, and this is no exception.

The performance on the last Force lightning doesn’t sell by either party, so it’s unconvincing that it was strong enough to knock him down and take him out of the fight so extremely that the other guy had time to walk up and kill him.

Square transition. Ouch.

There’s not a lot of pure saber combat stuff in this, and it’s a short entry to begin with, so that’s about all I can think to mention.

M. Scott

 

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DorkmanScott  13900 posts
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Date Posted: 1/11/05 10:57pm Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
Entry 4

Too much intro. Get to the sabers.

Is it that the Sith is arrogant or what? Why is he letting the Jedi crawl away like that? Hell, if he had such a perfect ambush like that in the first place, why didn’t he just bust out the lightsaber, chop off the head, and be done with it? The choreography is already gratuitious; instead of adding context to the fight, you’ve undercut it completely.

The jump again at 0:36. Same thing as the one I said in the first entry. WHY does the bad guy just stand there? Do SOMETHING. The other guy also stumbles away instead of attempting another attack. This is very weak choreography, going for the easy clichés instead of considering what might actually happen in a fight.

The saber combat portions are the same thing over and over again. More left-right[-down]. To the point of monotony. This competition is ABOUT the choreography, a lot more thought should have gone into it.

Lot of unmotivated line crossing, too, which makes it disorienting.

0:47. Nothing is particularly special about the moves, and the Jedi has all the leverage by blocking near the hilt, whereas the Sith has none trying to push against it with the tip. There is no clear reason for the Jedi to lose his saber like he does. But at least the Sith makes an attack this time with his opponent disarmed.

How did they subsequently get so far apart? I’d say the Sith should have pressed the attack. Also, he was between the Jedi and the saber, could have chopped it or something.

0:55, he knees the guy then hits him with the blade? And doesn’t kill him? If he DIDN’T hit him with the blade, why not? Why not a killshot when it’s so open? Big problem in all the entries so far.

1:20, why the throw? The guy’s got his arms and weapon behind his head. He’s wide open. Stab him. Instead, you DROP THE WEAPON and perform a throw, which we’re suppose to believe knocked him out when he landed more on his hip than anything.

The way the camera moves at the end as a death POV is interesting. And nice costumes, but that’s not what this is about.

M. Scott

 

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DorkmanScott  13900 posts
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Date Posted: 1/11/05 11:05pm Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
Entry 5

I laughed, as you intended.

The little saber flip is interesting. The reasoning and placement are questionable, but it’s a fun moment. The choreography is not bad, some good creativity here, but the performance of things like the kick are slow, and unbalanced. There’s also not much reasoning behind the kick, since it exposes your back leg to his saber. The number of actual attempted body strikes vs. stick bashing is about 1:1.

WHOA! Clockwise tornado kick. Mind-blow. But again, the balance was off. If the kick had actually connected, it might have injured you. A clean kick done lower and faster is better than a sloppy one done high. Some Southern styles of kung fu (on which the majority of the popular old kung fu movies are based) rarely kick above the waist-level, but the moves look impressive – and are quite powerful in real application – when done properly.

No reaction at all at 0:52. Since it made a sound, there should be SOMETHING.

A lot of anticipation, the block is there before the strike starts, and even worse the opposite clearly happens at least twice, where the attacker pauses and waits for the block to come up – both times in a spin, because one spun faster than the other.

Overall it’s easy to see the choreography, and you did some daring stuff not keeping both feet constantly on the ground, but the action between the blades is a pretty standard collection of moves.

And the ending...cute.

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Trying really hard not to spam the page here, just want to spread these out a little instead of making one huge chunk of a post. We'll call them "chapters". wink

M. Scott

 

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GrgurMG  431 posts
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Date Posted: 1/11/05 11:16pm Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD - Date Edited: 1/11/05 11:18pm (2 edits total) Edited By: GrgurMG
Damnit Dorkman.. leave me something original to say in my review tongue







No, j/k.. go on. And your hardly spamming compared to some. I'm just anxious to spam the thread with my reviews I'm getting ready. grin

 

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GarthSchmader  2074 posts
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Date Posted: 1/11/05 11:16pm Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD - Date Edited: 1/11/05 11:20pm (1 edits total) Edited By: GarthSchmader
Just found this forum a couple days ago, and this thread. Downloaded the lot of the entries, and I gotta say, #10 young man in black you are teh hotness!

OK, seriously #10 was only my 2nd pick.

#27 was the best in my book, for composition, plot and humor. Seriously, people, plot has a lot more to do with choreography than many of you, I suspect, will admit.

Sorry, but #6's plot just left me wanting more of the sithlady's story. I got tired of how superior the master was over his student. The technique saved this one.

#23 got my #2 vote. The mixing of Hamlet with lightsabers was clever, the acting was funny (esp. facial expressions by both contenders). And the signs...oh the signs are classic.

My honorably mention (do I get one of those?) goes to #13. I have watched this over and over and laugh my guts out every stinkin' time I watch it. The spirit of this is experimental, the tit-for-tat is funny, and the jump out the window is over the top. Plus, the kid obviously did all of this himself. Bravo, my man.

Also, the music on "The cookies are ready!" (#5) was great.

 

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DorkmanScott  13900 posts
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Date Posted: 1/11/05 11:35pm Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD - Date Edited: 5/31/07 11:24pm (4 edits total) Edited By: DVeditor
Entry 6

I told the filmmaker, over AIM, that I didn’t think this film’s amount of story was appropriate for this contest. The more I watch this, though, the more I disagree with myself, and the more I like it.

I don’t much care for the intro on the whole, but at least some of it is necessary to motivate the following scene. I do think you might have omitted the whole scene where she’s kneeling. Clearly he’s overpowering her, and clearly he’s killing her. She even screams. I would cut from there to where he drops to his knees in shame.

A lot of it is very unclear. (Like the guy at 2:13 – extreme *** moment, needed either more of him or none at all. I’d vote none at all.)

Some of it I’m not sure how it could be made more clear considering the moves themselves (like the really quick saber retractions). A lot of it I suppose you wanted unclear, but most of it is due to poorly chosen angles. Because the choreography is so limited – since EVERY move is crucial, a near-kill shot, it’s imperative that EVERY move be clearly communicated.

The shot at 2:27 is one of my favorites in concept and placement, but the speed of the blade is inconsistent with what’s already been established in other parts of the entry. Stuff like that NEEDS a better camera angle and timing of the effect, not just reliant on the sound effects. It’s a great idea, like many others, but undermined by the choice of angles.

Same like at 2:40. The guy rushes in faster than the sabers have been established. We have to see that there’s no saber before it hits the guy. As it is, there’s still enough blade to stab the crap out of him even as it’s retracting. Another great idea that’s undermined by the execution of our POV.

The kick at 2:54 is very well-performed on both ends, the fact that it was pulled for stunt reasons also sells that the master figure is only trying to give the student a few nicks, not really hurt him.

I LOVE how he puts him back on his feet and scampers off for another go. Great moment.

The intensity in the choreography builds well in the sequence following, complimented well by the music. The motivation on both sides is very well-communicated. When we talk about fights telling a story, this is exactly the kind of thing we mean.

The stance at 3:22 is distracting. Clearly he only has the option of one move (an uppercut), and communicating something like that is not good strategy. He’s shown that he’s not that stupid, why would he do that? Definitely a character-breaking moment. Moreover he’s very close to hurting himself getting a lightsaber blade that close to his body. You could make the argument that he’s blinded by hate/rage, but even that is hard to swallow, honestly.

Punch at 3:30 was a really poor edit. Felt very out of place as it didn't cut smoothly from the previous or to the following shot.

The message going between master and student at 3:34 is great, and I think bears mentioning since you couldn’t say it within the style of the film. Up until now, the master’s attitude has been very much “Stop trying to hit me, and hit me.” But now he sees that the student understands the situation, and is basically saying “So…now that you can, are you going to?” Very well done. It’s EXTREMELY hard to do something like that without dialogue, and worth commending. It’s not the clearest way of doing it, but without hamfisted dialogue, I can’t think of any other way to do it.

On a purely choreography basis – were you to write the moves and only the moves down on paper – it’s slow and there are very few moves to speak of. But the moves are all considered and have a very important purpose in their context. It's a great battle between the light and the dark side, and a great short about the master teaching his student something important about the strength of the light. The battle is psychological in a lot of ways (the master might not even be there, after all), but that's what makes it great.

I thought long and hard about this one, watched all the entries, and finally gave this one my vote for first place.

So now...I sleep. Everyone get in your posts now, before I take all the good comments on the remaining 20. tongue

M. Scott

 

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Corrin_Wyndryder  3862 posts
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Date Posted: 1/12/05 12:32am Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
Corrin - what's the deal with the shade and forest count out of curiousity?

Yes, they're a running tally of how many people wore shades, and how many duels were in forests. I thought it would be amusing to count.

 

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Date Posted: 1/12/05 12:50am Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD - Date Edited: 1/12/05 12:52am (1 edits total) Edited By: buliwif
i laughed at the shade count.... good one, Corrin

 

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GarthSchmader  2074 posts
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Date Posted: 1/12/05 1:33am Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
Well, it seems kinda tough to find convincing surroundings that dramtically enhance the suspension of belief one requires to stage and watch a lightsaber duel.

I prefer the forests to the suburban settings, with the exception of #5, whereby the setting, suburbia, is used to trigger the comedic ending.

I really liked the surreal ones...#13 of course, where a young man accidentally clones himself in his room using only a home computer...and has to kill him.

The Hamlet vs Laertes (#23) gave those of us familiar with the duel in Hamlet the precontext we needed, and anyone who has been to a highschool play could appreciate the setting, indeed.

The street battle of #10 was actually really cool considering the duel was unrotoscoped.

I did not like the aikido lightsaber duel setting one bit (aikido is all about peace, mannnnn..dodging and falling, but I guess you know more about it than I! hehe!), nor did I like the dark alley at night kinda thing with the bagpipes (eek!).

#27...the backstage scene shop: I have worked in and around these places before. Perfecto, gentlemen. The whole unsuspecting passerby thing happens for real in a scene shop, no lightsabers necessary. The part where the combatants are backlit is rad rad rad.

 

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Date Posted: 1/12/05 1:44am Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
Dorkman,

I'm curious.... why such negativity in your reviews? I understand that you were going to focus on the negative aspects of each entry, I suspect for constructive criticism, but you're coming off more like Simon on American Idol.

There is a fine line between constructive and destructive criticism, and it's really hard to tell which side you're on.

Let's take, for example, your review of entry #2... looks like a bashfest from where i'm sitting. You bring up a couple of valid points from a filmmaking perspective, but for the most part you seem determined to bash the entry at every opportunity on its stunts. Now that might make sense if they were just a couple kids rolling around a yard, but from the looks of this, there was alot of work put into setting up the shots. I don't know much about wire rigging, actually next to nothing, but I know what looks good, and what works on film, and from the rough footage I can see that for the most part, as a finished work, this would look pretty good. You, on the otherhand, approach the whole scenario from the viewpoint of a professional. Is this the case? If so, out of curiosity I would like to know how many years of performing stunts and/or wirework you have under your belt... This would help me better to see where you're coming from, as I'm sure it would anyone else reading your statements and expecting them to be true.

I know there are alot of pprofessionals on these boards... in various fields of industry... mostly the technical, so I would expect alot of comments about blocking, visuals, lighting, even the choreography itself, as I know there are many martial artists on these boards as well... as yet, however, I don't believe I've heard from any true stuntmen, save for maybe one or two...

Now obviously this isn't my entry... I don't have an entry in this contest. but if I were the filmmaker of that or any of the other entries you've posted about, I might be rather insulted and put off by what you had to say... there were a few positive statements, true, but for the most part... man.... just harsh...

So in the future, and I would say this for ANYONE posting reviews, please, be CONSTRUCTIVE in your critiques, and I do mean just that. picking apart an entry and giving very little positive to work with does NOT help someone do better in the future... it just pisses them off... and please, keep the comments to what you know... if there's an aspect of the film that you didn't like, but don't know the technical side of it, state your feelings and support them, but do so with the understanding that you might not know everything, because I guarantee it will come back to haunt you....

 

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Date Posted: 1/12/05 2:18am Subject: RE: ***LIGHTSABER CHOREOGRAPHY CONTEST III*** VOTING / REVIEW THREAD
hey, lets argue about it!

 

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