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Kchr1ss Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 8/29/05 8:27am Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	ALLMIGHTY awesome KICKASS video and good acting aswell. the very last frame was more like spider web -----signature----- Lookfilms Ltd. You were the chosen one!!! We were brothers !!! I loved you !!! The jedi turned against me ! Don't you turn against me ?!?
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-Spiff- Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 8/29/05 8:49am Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	Btw, when's the baby due? (The excercise ball. Took me a while) How about video tut? Bah. If you have AE 6.5, you can download the project here. (240 kB). Really, tweak to taste and animate the bejeeburs out of it is all it was. Render it out, have a look at the effect in real time, then go back and fix stuff. Can we see a still of the footage before any post was run on it Sure. No colour correction Colour corrected and cropped: and cause all sorts of ugly banding artifacts I find using 16 bpc eliminates all those problems. Blow outs have to be tempered with careful opacity selection and blurring. I find if I "need" to use Screen to get the effect "right", something's wrong in the lower layers, and a little tweaking will fix it. Add + eLin is probably the most correct, but I'm not so much concerned about doing it "right" as doing it without spending cash. If you want to do it right... Or Linear Dodge, which is sorta kinda the same thing-ish. I usually use Linear Dodge - but I just did some tests with frames from this and could not discern a difference between in and add. As for the strobe rhythm... If there was someone to help me shoot this, I would have had them dial the strobes erratically. Looking at the keyframes though, they're not as rhythmical as you might think. Having two helped a bit. great... (a) face... (b) light (a) I'm beautiful! (b) Phew I was concerned it would be too dark on your monitor. I wouldn't call it force lightning Didn't you read my disclaimer?! The " " are there for a reason. the very last frame was more like spider web I prefer to think of it as "looking down the barrel". There's a similar such shot when Palps zaps Yoda in ROTS. Since I don't have the bootleg, I can't really guage how close I got... but yeah... prolonging that shot was asking for trouble. I used a digital zoom and motion blur to sell the "depth" of the event, but getting the lighting to look like it was actually spraying out of my hand towards the screen was a little difficult. Were it in a film, that's where you would cut the way Lucas did. After all - at that point we're more interested in the person getting zapped than the aggressor. And here's (13 MB) a 960x720 version that represents the native resolution of the project, since I used a digital zoom to get the pull out at the end. -Spiff -----signature----- Eclipse SE now available: http://boards.theforce.net/fan_films/b10015/28647876/p1/?26 Spiff(x, \|x-Phi\|<small) = twitterpated FREE THE QUARKS!!!
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Red-2 Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 8/29/05 9:03am Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	woah. -----signature----- everybody freaked, except the king who was like “Chill homies, I’ll handle this crap."
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Kchr1ss Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 8/29/05 9:06am Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	woaah. -----signature----- Lookfilms Ltd. You were the chosen one!!! We were brothers !!! I loved you !!! The jedi turned against me ! Don't you turn against me ?!?
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JDCT Registered: Feb '05	Date Posted: 8/29/05 3:20pm Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	Just a quick question. I really have no idea when it comes to color correction, so what I am trying to do right now is take the two pics you posted and I am trying to make the color line up. What is it that you use to tweak the color? Channel Mixer, Color Balance, or a combination of both? -----signature----- "She's evil, that stone is evil, and evil plus evil can never equal good!" - The Iron Clad Diplomat (my D&D pally)
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FruityTooty Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 8/29/05 3:24pm Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	The best tool I've ever found for color correction is the Selective Color, but it's only available in Photoshop. Kind of sucks, because the functionality would be the same in AE and it wouldn't be difficult to tranfer it into the program. You know, now that I think about it, Selective Color may be a transferable plug-in. Like P+S Ripple, or something. Checking. For AE correction, I don't know what he used, but usually Color Balance and Curves are the tools to use. Occasionally Levels and Brightness and Contrast. -----signature----- Teague "Fig" Chrystie Fig Chrystie + Chris Hanel - Shame + Audience = Geekza http://www.geekza.com
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-Spiff- Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 8/29/05 4:13pm Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	I used Hue/Saturation and Curves. I also have a really sophisticated colour corrector from Synthetic Aperture... but damned if I know how to use it. -Spiff -----signature----- Eclipse SE now available: http://boards.theforce.net/fan_films/b10015/28647876/p1/?26 Spiff(x, \|x-Phi\|<small) = twitterpated FREE THE QUARKS!!!
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neo_mp5 Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 8/29/05 4:47pm Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	great sound! very well timed with the effect -----signature----- You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles. my sound videos now on youtube! http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=neomp5
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-Spiff- Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 8/29/05 5:15pm Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	Hey thanks neo! I did that for you y'know. I was looking up lightning/thunder electrical sound effects, and found a thread where you kinda went off on a rant about crappy sounds -Spiff -----signature----- Eclipse SE now available: http://boards.theforce.net/fan_films/b10015/28647876/p1/?26 Spiff(x, \|x-Phi\|<small) = twitterpated FREE THE QUARKS!!!
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DMPjedi Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 8/29/05 5:23pm Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	That was pretty f'ing awesome Spiff. we get a big glob of lightning looking all glob-like and globbing towards its opponent, where it forms a glob and globs on them. -----signature----- Nate Caauwe - VFX Supervisor, Movie Spoof 2 & 3 http://PixelCorps.com DMPjedi is not here right now, please leave a message with NateCaauwe after the beep. Beep.
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TKTODD Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 8/29/05 5:24pm Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	Nice work Spiff..That was sweet!!! -----signature----- http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tktodd
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PixelMagic Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 8/29/05 5:28pm Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	Insanely impressive. That looks better than the force lightning in Episode III. -----signature----- http://danielbroadway.blogspot.com "A wise man tastes good, but a dumb man is easier to catch" -Codepoet
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neo_mp5 Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 8/29/05 6:33pm Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	"...and found a thread where you kinda went off on a rant about crappy sounds" yeah, i do that. the sounds aren't really force lightning sounds, but the visuals aren't really force lightning visuals. it has a sort of tesla coil look to it, and the sound fit that. reminds me of a deleted scene on the x2 dvd, of jubilee in the museum -----signature----- You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles. my sound videos now on youtube! http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=neomp5
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ktulu216 Registered: Feb '05	Date Posted: 8/29/05 6:46pm Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	Awesome Spiff, that looks great. -----signature----- The Squirrel Factor II: April 2006 http://boards.theforce.net/fan_films/b10015/23178308/p1/?9
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BrandonFlyte Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 8/29/05 8:27pm Subject: RE: "Force" Lightning - Test and Tutorial
	On-set lights kick ass. Way to go. -----signature----- http://www.BrandonFlyte.com
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