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HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
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bgii_2000
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Jan '05
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Date Posted:
6/27 11:58pm
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RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
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Green may be good for retaining the most information, but orange shows up better in a forest.
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DorkmanScott
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7/8 2:00am
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Orange shows up better EVERYWHERE. That's what we use.
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-Spiff-
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Date Posted:
7/8 6:27am
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RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
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Like most broad sweeping statements, Dorkman's above claim is incorrect.
In this picture you can clearly see the advantage of the green over the orange, as well as the benefit of the black markers I was talking about.
When shooting against darker backgrounds the extra luma signal provided by the green is particularly advantageous. Against bright backgrounds the chroma advantage for green is still present, but there may be a luma advantage with a darker orange blade. The black and white tape helps against all backgrounds, with the black helping in particular for bright backgrounds and the white helping for the darker ones.
For every shot there is a best solution. You can quite easily optimize your blade to be a jack-of-all trades. A little consideration of luma and chroma sub-sampling goes a long way. Keep in mind that even on RAW sensor data, the effective resolution for luma and chroma is not equal: there are more green photosites than red and blue, and no amount of de-Bayering sophistication can change that.
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DorkmanScott
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7/8 2:39pm
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Actually, you're right. There was one lightsaber shoot recently where the lighting and surroundings were heavily warm tones -- yellows, reds, and oranges -- and I seriously regretted not thinking better of using orange at that time. In that case I should have used green.
I personally still prefer solid colors, stripes are IMO more trouble than they're worth.
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-Spiff-
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What specifically do you not like about stripes? I have yet to think of a disadvantage, but would be interested to know when they are.
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DorkmanScott
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Well, not that there's necessarily a "disadvantage" in having them, although it seems like breaking up the blade would be dangerous -- there's a lot of occasions where you only catch a little glimpse of lightsaber under someone's arm or something, and if you had a black stripe there it wouldn't show up. But then again if it didn't show up you wouldn't have to replace it, so points there.
Really I'm just thinking of the time factor. I don't see the stripes adding enough value or ease in post to warrant taking the time on-set to make it happen, when a solid color is just one length of tape and you're off.
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VaporTrail
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7/8 8:38pm
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For my nighttime shoots, I've been using props covered with white duct tape, with a red stripe near the tip and base. It looks pretty decent, reflects a fair amount of light to keep it visible without any noticeable reflections blurring past the blade's borders.
Though, that might look kinda cool.
I used the same props for a couple of daytime shoots, and while I probably got lucky with my location and the excessive sunlight, they do tend to stand out rather well. The white catches the light, and there's also some heavy shadows when they're held in certain places. Sometimes I lose sight of where the tip ends, but can still see enough to get it pretty close.
Some of the fading may be do to the composite capture/DVD rip with this footage. It could be clearer in HD, not sure yet.
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Funk-E
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7/9 9:54am
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Would using some kind of reflective tape make any difference? Day-glo orange or green stuff, I mean?
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VaporTrail
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I'd imagine you would get some good light bounce to help it stand out. If it's a bright color like you mentioned, I can't imagine there'd be any real downside, as long as you use a color that contrasts with your background.
The worst thing that could happen is too much reflection while it's moving around, but the roto work should be able to cover that up so it's not noticeable. If you mean reflective like a road sign, odds are you're gonna get quite a bit of light bouncing off, and I wonder if that real aura surrounding the prop would help the effect feel more real itself.
Closest I've come to this is clear packing tape over the white duct tape, but if I'm thinking of the right stuff, you may even have too much reflection if you're in a bright area.
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Lt_Janglez
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8/17 9:00pm
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anyone know any free movie editing software to make star wars videos and effects?
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storm8105
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Date Posted:
8/18 8:22am
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Lt_Janglez posted:
anyone know any free movie editing software to make star wars videos and effects?
You could use Darth Komar's tutorial for lightsaber's in blender, which is a free 3d program.
zip: http://www.mediafire.com/?hmjns24w1d2
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