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Funk-E 
Registered: Sep '03
17818_Yoda and Luke
Date Posted: 7/25/06 6:45pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
What didn't you get?

 

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LSFightChoreographer 
Registered: Jul '06
14855_TFN Fan Films
Date Posted: 7/26/06 5:53pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
durbnpoisn posted:

I also have on saber that has a metal ring the screws on to threads on the end of the hilt where the dowel goes in. That is pretty cool for effectively hiding any tape that might show up.



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Funk-E 
Registered: Sep '03
17818_Yoda and Luke
Date Posted: 7/26/06 6:45pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
It's just a short metal extender that screws onto his saber. He uses it for an emitter shroud, I'm guessing.

 

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durbnpoisn 
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  • Date Posted: 8/1/06 12:31pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
    If you take a look at my Episode III Trailer. About 40 seconds in, is a great shot of the saber in question.

    And, yeah, Funk is right. Basically, the hilt is made from a drain pipe. One end is threaded so you can put a ring-type thing on it. It fit the design well enough. And it had the extra bonus of making the emitter look more recessed. Looked really cool when the blade was rotoed.

     

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    Laughing_Cheese 
    Registered: May '06
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    Date Posted: 8/11/06 6:38pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
    So far I've only seen tutorials on how to make single-handed sabers. (Not that I'm not grateful of course.)

    I was just browsing the plumbing isle in Home Depot after reading the Padawan Guide article.


    We want to have a saber staff in our film that, for one part, I seperate into two blades, perhaps by twisting it apart at the center.

    Not breaking it, just twisting. In others, the "real" thing would be meant to do that.


    Anyone know of any saber staff tutorials?


    I don't have enough money to experiment...

    Thanks

     

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    asbecka 
    Registered: Jul '06
    Date Posted: 8/12/06 12:02pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
    DorkmanScott posted:
    Well folks, I’ve been promising this revision just about since I had DaftMaul put up the first one three years ago (almost to the day). And now, at long last, here it is.

    Shake: Shake is a high-end compositing package used in many professional post houses, including WETA Digital. While there is a lightsaber tutorial on lightsabers in this program, the software is out of the price range of most fan filmmakers, with no option for academic discounts.


    Actually, with the current price cut when it went universal, it is now much more affordable for people to buy. I believe it is in the range of Adobe AfterEffects or maybe a little cheaper.

    Andrew

     

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    Cramer 
    Registered: Jan '04
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    Date Posted: 8/12/06 1:42pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
    He made that statement on November 5th, 2005. Shake was still pretty damn high in price up until about a month ago. Learn to think 4th dimensionally.

     

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    freeby 
    Registered: Sep '06
    Date Posted: 9/11/06 4:08pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0

    TrowaGP02a posted:
    So, bets anyone? Countdown to the next eleventeen year old who pops the magic question?



    I won't go so far as to do that. But I am gonna ask for help. I want to make a lightsaber movie with my friends. It is gonna have to be a no-budget film. My uncle has a DV camcorder ( a pretty nice one too) that I can use. I also have some toy lightsabers (I know, no ideal--but I already have them so I am gonna use em--can't afford anything else). I don't have AE or anything that costs money, but I have figured out how to roto stills using gimpshop and they look pretty good.
    So...
    I don't want to roto each frame by hand. I have access to Linux and Jahshaka. I also have Gimpshop and an old Photoshop (5.5LE). Any way I can make a movie without taking a year to roto each frame?

     

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    Funk-E 
    Registered: Sep '03
    17818_Yoda and Luke
    Date Posted: 9/11/06 7:49pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
    Even in AE you have to roto nearly every frame.

     

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    freeby 
    Registered: Sep '06
    Date Posted: 9/12/06 2:18pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
    So there's no shortcut? No kind of keyframing system to make it easier?

    Right now, it takes about 30min/frame. At 24fps, that's 12 hours of work per second of film. So it really is gonna take a year to make the movie?

     

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    Funk-E 
    Registered: Sep '03
    17818_Yoda and Luke
    Date Posted: 9/12/06 4:09pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
    There IS a keyframing system, but when there's any kind of significant motion at all you have to go frame by frame. And holy crap, thirty minutes a frame? You should be able to shave that down to ten or fifteen seconds.

     

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    freeby 
    Registered: Sep '06
    Date Posted: 9/12/06 4:56pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0 - Date Edited: 9/12/06 5:04pm (1 edits total) Edited By: freeby
    How? I'm following the instructions I found
    Here..


    The instructions applied to Gimpshop perfectly, but takes about 30 minutes.

     

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    bgii_2000 
    Registered: Jan '05
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    Date Posted: 9/12/06 11:57pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
    Even in gimp, that shouldn't take more than a minute. It's a pretty simple process.

    Start with unprocessed picture.
    New Layer.
    Draw a thick white line over saber in the new layer.
    Duplicate that layer.
    Colorize the duplicated layer to green.
    Blur the duplicated layer by a factor of two.
    Duplicate the blurred green layer.
    Blur THAT layer by a factor of two.
    Keep duplicating and blurring till you've got about five or six layers.
    Change ALL layer's blending modes to "screen" or "add" or "lighten" or whatever gimp calls it.

    That's it. Really shouldn't take you 30 minutes.

     

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    freeby 
    Registered: Sep '06
    Date Posted: 9/13/06 1:56pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
    Well...
    I did find a script for Gimp that automatically creates a lightsaber effect on the selected area. So all I do is select the blade and hit the lightsaber button. The results aren't as good as when I do it the hard way, but when the blade is moving quickly, it looks pretty good.

    Thanks for the advice though.


     

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    VaporTrail 
    Registered: May '02
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    Date Posted: 9/25/06 1:13pm Subject: RE: HOW TO MAKE LIGHTSABERS 2.0
    Why do that, though? The glow is the easy part. You still have to do all the masking, correct?

    Might as well make the glow look great. That's what sells it, as long as you masking is on target.

     

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