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Evil-Henchman 
Registered: Jul '04
6614_Darth Vader
Date Posted: 4/5 6:51pm Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread - Date Edited: 4/5 7:12pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Evil-Henchman
Well crap, after 5 days the clear spray paint on Saber 11 remained tacky to the touch. As such I had to sand it off. The pics a page back show what the hilt looks like now (except for the pic with the lit up blade). Photobucket gave them the same links after I deleted the old ones and uploaded the new ones.

Below is a comparison. I replaced the black Covertec knob with a regular one. It doesn't look quite so cool now, especially under a camera's flash. Oh well, live and learn.

 

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zei-si-beoce 
Registered: Apr '08
23567_Eyes of the Sith
Date Posted: 4/8 5:08pm Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread
thinking HELP!!!!!!!

Hello All I have a few questions for all of you saber building pros. But first let me show you what I have so far. This saber is made from sch 40 pipe one with a diam. of 1 in. and the outer is a diam. of 1 1/4 in. I wanted a saber that was as reallistic as possible. so I made one out of pipe. the activation switch came out of a flash light. the beam lenght and density dials came from a protractor square that I use at work for finding the angles of mitters. here is where the problem comes in.




on the pic below it shows that activation switch how ever the switch is inset and I'm having troubles building it up so it is useable. any ideas are welcome with open arms.


secondly on the pic below is the butt end of the hilt. this is just a hard plastic cap with a rubber like band that holds it on the hilt ( came off a peace of exercise equipment.). My problem is how to make a hanger for the hilt. I was going to use the eye hook and d-ring method but I just am not sure I like the way it looks. Please Help

 

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Evil-Henchman 
Registered: Jul '04
6614_Darth Vader
Date Posted: 4/8 5:52pm Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread - Date Edited: 4/8 6:28pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Evil-Henchman
Hi zei-si-beoce, welcome to the boards.

For the activation switch, I would probably need to see it from several angles, installed and uninstalled, to see the exact nature of the problem before I can offer any advice. Also, the pics would have to be larger and sharper than what you have posted so far.

After looking at what you are using for a pommel and reading about how you have secured it, I do not recommend using a D-ring. Instead I would go with a Covertec knob from this website and mount it somewhere on the bottom half of the hilt.

 

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ze-fro-sirav 
Registered: Apr '08
40719_Ringwraith Sith
Date Posted: 4/8 7:04pm Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread
Thank you for the help Sorry about the name change the other is wifes account.

I think I will use the Covertec knob. I looks like it will work great ( thanks ) as for the activation button it is a 1/4 in. diam. base with an 1/8 in daim. button on it. it sits about 1/8 of an in. below the hand wrap. I was going to just glue an extention on it but i just cant find anything around the house that will fit in the hole that is in the hand wrap. Thanks I think I can figure that part out. the picture quality suck because of the camera.

 

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Evil-Henchman 
Registered: Jul '04
6614_Darth Vader
Date Posted: 5/8 2:35am Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread
Hi all, below are some pics of my latest creation.

It's my first attempt at a double-bladed hilt as well as my first attempt doing brass inlay work. It's also my first attempt at wiring up and installing Luxeon LEDs (the blue Luxeon I LED that I have shown previously was wired up and attached to a"heat sink" by my predecessor Rob Martinelli).

I made the 2 handle pieces and one of the emitters last year but let it sit for awhile so that I could work on some single-bladed hilts. The flush mounted screws in the center of the hilt are just for looks as the 2 main handle pieces are permanately attached via JB weld to a hollowed out center piece. I used two Luxeon III red/orange LEDs and two revamped versions of my custom LED holder.

I learned a lot of what not to do while making this hilt and it was a major pain at times. As such, it may be a long time before I make another double-bladed hilt.

As usual, all comments are welcome.







 

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Robi-Wan 
Registered: Oct '06
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Date Posted: 5/8 5:17am Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread
Pretty cool. Job well done happy

 

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madhorizons 
Registered: May '06
42010_Nihilus
Date Posted: 5/8 10:42am Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread
E.H. - love it...looks really good.

Question - how do you folks go about positioning/angling the heatsink/LED/collimater(lens)/etc so it's lined up perfectly with the blade? I'm about to drill taps for that & drill hole for the heatsink set screw, switch, etc.

 

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Evil-Henchman 
Registered: Jul '04
6614_Darth Vader
Date Posted: 5/8 12:17pm Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread
Robi-Wan posted:
Pretty cool. Job well done happy


Thanks.

madhorizons posted:
E.H. - love it...looks really good.

Question - how do you folks go about positioning/angling the heatsink/LED/collimater(lens)/etc so it's lined up perfectly with the blade? I'm about to drill taps for that & drill hole for the heatsink set screw, switch, etc.


For the staff I made something like this...



The ones in my staff are newer and better that this one.

 

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madhorizons 
Registered: May '06
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Date Posted: 5/8 9:00pm Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread
The inner diameter of the hilt/emitter is 1"....little room around the heatsink

 

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Evil-Henchman 
Registered: Jul '04
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Date Posted: 5/8 10:43pm Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread - Date Edited: 5/8 10:44pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Evil-Henchman
A similar setup could be made for 1" diameter holes. The heatsink and top ring would be 1" in OD and you would not be able to use bars to attach them together. Instead you could have something like a screw sticking into the hilt to prevent the heatsink from sliding past a certain point and use the emitter (assuming it is removable) to hold the top ring in place over the lens holder, etc. Also, you could mill out grooves on the side of the heatsink (as opposed to drilling holes) for the wires to travel through if necessary. If the heatsink is not removable, the blade itself can be used to hold everything in place. I hope that helps.

 

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Evil-Henchman 
Registered: Jul '04
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Date Posted: 5/9 1:36am Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread
It's too late to edit my post but I meant "if the emitter is not removable", lol.

 

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madhorizons 
Registered: May '06
42010_Nihilus
Date Posted: 5/9 12:28pm Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread
This is the heatsink i have:



It's outer diameter is ~ .8" which doesn't leave a whole lot of space.

 

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Evil-Henchman 
Registered: Jul '04
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Date Posted: 5/10 2:17am Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread
madhorizons posted:
This is the heatsink i have:



It's outer diameter is ~ .8" which doesn't leave a whole lot of space.


Cool. Technically then you could use the blade to hold everything in place. The LED holder can only sit on the Luxeon LED a certain way so it's self centering. If you can't get a normal sized battery pack in the hilt from the top or bottom then you could get two 3 volt lithium camera batteries and wire them up to the LED yourself (tape them up together really well and solder the wires directly to the batteries or you may run into problems). Then insert the battery pack, the on/off button/switch, the heat sink with the LED attached and the lens holder in from the top. Then slide the blade in as far as it will go and secure it with a screw. This method is only recommended if your hilt is only 1" I.D. all the way through and you cannot remove the emitter or pommel. There are some major downsides to doing it this way but at least it can be done.

 

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Wookieefett 
Registered: Dec '05
40312_Wookiee
Date Posted: 5/10 6:29am Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread
Yeah I was bored, so I made this...
Could any 3ds Max users tell me how I could get a more realistic result?
I'm currently using a mental ray "arch & design" preset with a chrome texture thingo I downloaded... I know maybe adding a layer of dirt/scratches on top would help, and rendering multiple passes (i.e. ambient-occlusion, etc.) but I don't know how to do that! Anyone know?

http://files.filefront.com/3d+saber+testmov/;10178355;/fileinfo.html

 

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madhorizons 
Registered: May '06
42010_Nihilus
Date Posted: 5/14 8:06am Subject: RE: The Official Lightsaber Hilt Thread
Not hilt specific...but over building in general...

I finally got my LED & junk installed & wired...and it's giving me a dark area. Right now I have 4AAA into a 2.2Ohm resistor to a LuxIII LED...and this is what I get:




I've ordered 2 700mA buckpucks to see if I can bump this guy up (the red LuxIII lambertian emitter wants 1400mA/1.4A). Any other ideas/suggestions???

 

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