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CaptSparrow
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7/1 12:59pm
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elemental_fantasy posted:
The Dark Knight or The Dark Joker Whats the film called again!?!
OK, now I am getting fed up, almost to the point of wanting Heaths last role to fail!!! Hollywood is doing THAT!!!
I saw previews for this movie last night around 7 pm, I think on sportscenter or somethin, all the previews featured the Joker, and they were all around 1 minute and 10 seconds, far more then a commercial, as well, they played it at the beginning and end of there commercial blocks, and even had behind the scenes interviews with the cast talking about Heath..... He's dead, he wasnt the greatest, nor the worst, but he's dead, let him rest in peace and move on.
I for one now DONT want to see him get the oscar unless it's a must, and with ALL the movies this year, I promise you there ARE people who are more deserving of the oscar performance wise, or just as deserving. It's actually VERY easy for any decent actor to play a mental **** case. The more subtle roles are the overlooked ones cause they dont stand out like the Joker roll, as well, there often the most difficult to capture for actors on ANY level. The public makes me sick of insisting how amazing his performance is, though most havent seen it, and if the guy was still alive, I promise not too many people would be saying Jack Crap about him!!!!!!
Dont get me wrong, I freakin LOVE heath, but......
But I dont like critics and the media literally force feeding and trying to brain wash people the way they are doing for this film. I've officially had enough and now am sick of Heath, he's dead, leave him there for christ sakes already!
Again, not conveyed well, but this is due to what I have been seeing in, well, everywhere in the past week, the main media pool, it sickens me! And that's mostly the WB, I hate that studio and the execs, there jerks!
I somewhat agree with you, I see that everyone is saying that this is greatest role ever. I feel that this movie will be successful mainly because of Ledger's death, and seeing that this is his last role everyone will want to see it.
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Boter
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7/1 1:00pm
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Is it getting some undue press? Yeah. And I do think it's a bit absurd to call it "his best role ever", he's done a lot of stuff and to pick one, when it hasn't even come out yet, is a slap in the fact to the other productions he's been on.
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Robi-Wan
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Yeah, but we don't have Fan Fiction; otherwise, I'd say go for it.
Oh, right. Didn't think about that one.
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Teague posted:
Fan Films and Friends works for me.
I'm down... dunno how the Audio and SciFi3D guys feel about it, tho.
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elemental_fantasy
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Date Posted:
7/1 1:07pm
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Yeah, no, I am just pissed because Heath is such a great actor, his death is WHY he gets all the attention. Not due to his roll, and yes, they focus alot on Heath DEATH!!!, alot more then when the trailers came out, when I start to see commercials that are interviews about the cast and crew talking about how great Heath was in the film rather then a commercial for the film itself, then theres a problem, that sickens me and thats when I speak my mind. And I have respect, (I shouldnt let anybody deminish that the way I let Hollywood) other people in hollywood should too, like the studio execs. But they dont, they ARE using the poor SOB's death for a marketing strategy, that IS WRONG! imho...
EDIT: But I still cant wait to see it, and know Heath will deliver a kick butt performance. Hollywoods approach is just wrong, well, there intentions are, morally that is, but hey, they are makin bank off the guy's death, there happy, moneys money I suppose...
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DorkmanScott
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7/1 1:14pm
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He was going to be the primary marketing anyway. The Joker is the main draw for this film. There was talk after his death of decreasing his prominence in the marketing, but either they thought better of that or we don't even know how Jokeriffic the marketing plan originally was.
As for talking about Heath, I don't know if you've ever watched any marketing, but whenever there's a really stunning performance in a film, they always promote the hell out of it, having everyone talk about how great it is. They have to address the fact, and the tragedy, of Heath's death if they do that. Frankly, I think it's great that they're promoting and really paying tribute to a great actor in what is apparently a great performance -- and one which most people haven't seen yet.
As you're so fond of telling people, "chill out dude."
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elemental_fantasy
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DorkmanScott posted:
As for talking about Heath, I don't know if you've ever watched any marketing,
No, I have not watched any marketing, I am just talkin out my rear.  
DorkmanScott posted:
whenever there's a really stunning performance in a film, they always promote the hell out of it, having everyone talk about how great it is.
Indeed, but ya know, when I see a commercial for the film with actors behind the scenes talking about how great heath is and not even addressing the film itself, then there's a problem, for me anyways. I have never seen that for a movie preview.... That's NOT a movie preview, it's propaganda at it's lowest level of financial gain out of physical loss.
DorkmanScott posted:
Frankly, I think it's great that they're promoting and really paying tribute to a great actor in what is apparently a great performance -
Are they really paying tribute to a great actor? Or are they taking advantage of his death and marketing it?
I'll take a chill pill, I just get sick of how Heath's death is OVER exposed so the film can generate more financial flow, but money is money, and that's the WB.
EDIT: For the record, it appears that WB is making his death bigger then the roll.
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storm8105
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elemental_fantasy posted:
EDIT: For the record, it appears that WB is making his death bigger then the roll.
EDIT: For the record, it appears that WB is making his death bigger then the role.
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CaptSparrow
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How about Media Ventures?
Everyone in this thread ventures into media.
Pretty good, right? 
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elemental_fantasy
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storm8105 posted:
elemental_fantasy posted:
For the record, it appears that WB is making his death bigger then the roll.
For the record, it appears that WB is making his death bigger then the role.
lol.... I was hungry
Sorry, that seem's kinda mental of me to just go off, but It was apart of another thread in another forum so I just copied and posted here without thinkin about the tonality of the first post. But the situation is still kinda wrong imho. I dunno, I kinda feel bad for him, not good for him.
So up top, those are the new Integrated Mod's yes?
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storm8105 posted:
elemental_fantasy posted:
EDIT: For the record, it appears that WB is making his death bigger then the roll.
EDIT: For the record, it appears that WB is making his death bigger then the role.
EDIT: For the record, it appears that WB is making his death bigger than the role.
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Laszlo
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I've got a little teaser up for the cyberpunk documentary:C/Punk/Doc
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God, you're a weird guy, e_f.
EDIT: Wait, is weird the word I'm looking for.
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erus_multus2 posted:
EDIT: For the record, it appears that WB is making his death bigger than the role.
out edited, dang 
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Dude, e_f, if you hadn't noticed, we're two and a half freaking weeks from TDK's release. It's one of the biggest movies of the summer. It's just that time where we see all the crazy marketing. The first theatrical trailer debuted over a month before Heath's death, and even then people (including me) were amazed by the performance we saw. Trust me, I bet we'd be hearing the same things from everyone had Heath not died. As Dorkman said, it has to be acknowledged because it is tragic. If you don't like it, then ignore the advertising. I personally believe this will be an astonishing performance. Every single snippet and clip from the film I have seen of the Joker has done nothing short but amaze me, and listening to rants like yours actually anger me quite a bit.
If one of my actors died after a great performance before the film was finished, and you came in and told me I shouldn't be hailing that person, I'd be pissed and feel like I need to defend them. WB isn't cashing in on his death, they're praising a supposed amazing performance that in the end probably killed the poor guy; they're acknowledging the great talent that goes into making these films. So just sit down and enjoy the freaking show.
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