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TrowaGP02a
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7/18 2:50pm
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and third to ninth takes.
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bgii_2000
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As a director, sure, I don't think I'd ever choose to work like that unless I was under some incredible time constraint. But as a camera operator it was a hell of a lot of fun. You get a sense of being in the action, y'know? I suppose that depends on the director you get too.
Just watched Dr. Horrible's Sing-a-long blog.
Wow.
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NateCaauwe
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The live commentary is pretty funny usually I'll give you that, but I didn't like doing it three nights a week for three weeks each summer.
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elemental_fantasy
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Just saw TDK...
Rachel's actress, Maggie Gyllenhaal, was terribly performed! Mostly at the end, she just didn't sell it! And that's what was supposed to make the ending strong!!! She's a poor actress anyways...
As far as Heath, as always, I had fun watching him perform, it was a really, really good performance!!! But by no means was it the greatest this year let alone in this film...
Aaron Eckhart and Gary Oldman performed much better then Heath did. They deserve the nod more then Heath.
I found the film to be overall enjoyable, but it was however very long and drawn out... The Bat mask looks really stupid from most angles, as well, the ending was disappointing. Especially with what happens to the Joker. As well as Batman. I think Jack's joker is too cartoonish, but was played much stronger. I cant wait for it to come out on DVD... Great film with great performances all around, but not half as great as the media tried to make it.
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bgii_2000
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This is an issue that I've had a LOT of time in classes discussing and analyzing, and I'm interested to hear your take.
How do you judge a performance?
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Teague
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Whether or not I believe that they're really saying the words and not reciting them.
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elemental_fantasy
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I agree with Teague, not just how they say it and what it means to there character development... When they say there thing, is it real? Are they real? On film, a lot is in the actors eye's and not physical expression. But wrap it all up, what does it tell me about them, I guess...
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bgii_2000
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So, you're saying that you watched and listened carefully, and Gyllenhaal's eyes, and her character's lines told you she was a terrible actress?  I can't refute you straight up, 'cause I haven't seen the film yet, but I have a hard time believing you.
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erus_multus2
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elemental_fantasy posted:
Just saw TDK...
Rachel's actress, Maggie Gyllenhaal, was terribly performed! Mostly at the end, she just didn't sell it! And that's what was supposed to make the ending strong!!! She's a poor actress anyways...
Um, ahem, she was dead at the end. 
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elemental_fantasy
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bgii_2000 posted:
So, you're saying that you watched and listened carefully, and Gyllenhaal's eyes, and her character's lines told you she was a terrible actor? raised_brow I can't refute you straight up, 'cause I haven't seen the film yet, but I have a hard time believing you.
Yeah... isn't that what you do when your at a movie that you enjoy? Pay attention?? Plus, she's an actress, not actor... Secondly, it was a bit harsh to say she was crap, but I didn't like her performance at all in "World Trade Center" Nor her anti-climactic performance in TDK. It wasn't her line's, but rather how she delivered them. You should see TDK. All in all, it's a good film, but a lil too long. I'm sure your outlook will differ, this is just my own.
Really not sure why they ended Heaths character the way they did though?
EDIT: And yes Erus, indeed she wasn't in the end, but I was speaking character performance wise,
I didn't buy that crap acting for a second. It was still shocking that they did that to her character.
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VaporTrail
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I wouldn't change a thing about TDK, as of right now.
There was the scene w/ Rachel walking with Harvey after the early court session, just the way she was talking seemed so arrogant in a way that Holmes never portrayed the character.
"Gordon? He's a friend, actually. Try to be nice."
My neck hair stood up on end a little bit for that, felt a little... out of character, really. Still, overall I enjoyed her presence and what she brought. Of course I wonder what it'd be like if Katie had stuck around, but I think she did a good job too.
And I think Heath's role is award-worthy, by the way. Three simple words bring it to mind, which would be hard to prove now that we've witnessed the precedent:
"You do it."
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elemental_fantasy
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VaporTrail posted:
And I think Heath's role is award-worthy, by the way. Three simple words bring it to mind, which would be hard to prove now that we've witnessed the precedent:
"You do it."
Gimmie his sal. cap. and the op. and I'll do my best. 
I didn't say he sucked, but not the best I have seen this year, but worth the nod. My opinion, that's all. I know they will give it to him cause he was solid, like so many other performers, but unlike so many other's, he's dead. I liked in the end how they gave a mention to both men who lost there life's on this project.
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DorkmanScott
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7/18 10:28pm
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Heath's performance was perfect. While I loved the little twitches and touches he brought to the character, and while the magic trick was brilliant on so many levels -- the perfect succinct way to show what the Joker was about -- for me the best Joker moments were when he sat down and talked sincerely with someone.
As another reviewer said very well, Ledger wasn't playing the Joker; he was playing the Devil. He weaved truth and lies together effortlessly, and you realized that just because this guy is crazy -- and he is absolutely, completely, murderously insane -- doesn't mean he doesn't also know exactly what the **** is going on around him at all times.
His Joker is astonishing -- a Joker that I believed could exist in a totally realistic world. There was one point when Gordon said "The Joker knew exactly what we'd do!" and it struck me that calling someone "The Joker" should be silly and take me out of the movie, but it didn't. I bought it.
And a lot of that, don't get me wrong, was the fact that Oldman sold it like a champ, but a lot of it was the fact that the Joker, while "theatrical", and while insane, was all in all a chillingly real villain. He wasn't comic-booky. He wasn't gimmicky. And it was no stranger to hear someone refer to "The Joker" than, say, "The Zodiac." He was a serial killer with a specific MO, and he fit totally into the reality of Nolan's Gotham. He was funny (one of my favorite moments is the way he says "Hi" when visiting Dent in the hospital), but he was also intensely scary. There's just so much going on at every moment that I couldn't take my eyes off him.
Oh, and I never once thought about Heath Ledger, because I never once saw Heath Ledger on the screen. At every moment, it was the Joker. The whole time Oldman and Eckhart and Caine and etc. were onscreen, although they all did bang-up work as their characters and were in no way distracting from the story, at the back of my mind there was a part of me thinking "Man, Eckhart really knocked that moment out of the park." But not with Joker. I never thought about how good a job Heath was doing as the character, because the character had come completely to life and I stopped thinking of him as a character. It was all Joker, and it was astonishing.
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PixelMagic
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Made these teaser posters out of boredom. New Star Trek movie, of course.
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DetFilms
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No argument, just an observation from my own POV:
I though TDK was excellent. Filmwise, far better than Iron Man or Hellboy 2. Stellar acting throughout.
But... I've seen Iron Man twice and will buy the DVD. I'll probably do the same for Hellboy 2.
But one viewing of TDK was enough for me. There were no "stand up and cheer" moments. Nor were there supposed to be. It wasn't that kind of a film. I realize its greatness -- but it felt more like "Silence of the Lambs" than a superhero movie. And horror -- while an art form in its own right -- is just not my cup of tea.
Some excellent explosions, though.
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