Kaat posted:RocketGirl posted:Exactly...which is why it often bothers me a bit that it seems the fan film world has decided to limit itself. You know...to lightsabers, Jedi, Sith, and the Force. Maybe in some cases, it's more a case of dedication than limitation, though.
RocketGirl posted:Exactly...which is why it often bothers me a bit that it seems the fan film world has decided to limit itself. You know...to lightsabers, Jedi, Sith, and the Force.
NZPoe posted:Personally I don't feel that good stories make good films - I think good directing, acting and photography make good films and will help to overcome bad storytelling.
RocketGirl posted:It's an easy trap to fall into, writing about Jedi and the Force, almost automatic... It's like going into a restaurant that you've been to a million times, where the staff knows you well enough that you can actually order 'The usual,' and they'll bring it to you, knowing exactly what you mean; every now and then you have to stop yourself and go, "Waitaminit...lemme look at the menu and see if that's <i>REALLY</i> what I want. Maybe there's something I ought to try that I haven't had a bajillion times before. Variety is the spice of life, and it's high time I shook things up a little, you know?" Well...that's what I feel really needs to happen with fan films; we've been ordering the usual for far too long...it's high time we tried the other things on the menu.
Kaat posted: Yeah, I've heard that argument of yours before, and there's still one critical flaw in it. You are implying that the one who orders "the usual" does so from habit. But there are also these people who have already tried out the whole menu and decided that "the usual" was what they liked the most. Therefore, when they go to this restaurant, they order that because that's what they, personally, like the most. And they won't order anything else, unless they want to eat something that they don't like as much as "the usual".
Kaat posted: Stagnation might be true, but as far as I have experienced, many fanfilmers actually make their film for their own satisfaction, and not to help the genre evolve.
DarthDodobird posted: A lot of movies seem to have the plot first, and the characters are just kinda tossed about it in, they're there only to facilitate showing MORE of the plot, whereas you can have a whole movie about a couple of pretty darn good characters.
DarthDodobird posted:Well aye, but that's only around these parts . You get away from the CG guys are eventually someone has to rely on plot.
DDb posted: I more label things like that effects tests anyway, and in that context, they don't bother me at all.
DDb posted: (Also? I edited my previous post, but you were darn fast on the draw)
DarthDodobird posted:Point 1.) You know what I meant . I'm one of the first people to defend films others label as having "too much CG" and get nothing but irked when people say "they should have spent more time on the script and less on the CG", as if it's a trade-off. All I was referring to were folks who made films for CG's own sake, and that the only people who can do that are CG folks, and so if you go away from the CG folks, there have to be other incentives, and more often it's a story.
DDb posted: Point 2.) Heh, well, that quote's not really applicable, because, again, they're FX tests, in which the goal is to get better at FX, not tell a story...
DDb posted: Point 3.)
