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captain_nimoy
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2/25 5:16am
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RE: What Happen to the Serious Fan Films???
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_Beastmaster_
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shalto posted:
"Well, you have the light side and the dark side of the Force. What if you had someone who walked the line between the two" Then AOTC came out and I latched onto the idea of a Jedi in exile.
dahm! That was my idea too! hehe 
yeah I guess when you got characters and a story in yer head for so long it's only natural to get it out and show people your vision. I had the characters in my head for 7 years but didnt really do anything with them. It was only until I brainstormed the entire story in one night a few months back that I started putting things in gear.
The visuals are extremely important in telling the story and the quality bar I want is pretty high, so depending on how much I can do myself and what I can get others to do is what it all hangs on.
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RocketGirl
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Date Posted:
3/13 5:58pm
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captain_nimoy posted:
I always wondered what are peoples different motivations for making a serious fanfilm?
Multiple reasons in my case.
1) While parodies have their merits and can be fun, my fantasy has always been to live in a universe that is vaguely Star Warsian. Since doing that in reality would either require me to time travel, dimension shift, or freakin' hallucinate, my only real options are video games and/or making a fan film. I'm doing a little of both.
So, basically wish fulfillment.
2) I wanted to pay tribute to Star Wars. It has meant so much to me over the years--over the decades now, man--and I wanted to do something that spoke to my experiences with the series. I wanted to do something that said, essentially, this is what Star Wars was and can be, this is something that could have happened at some point during the Saga, that would not have seemed out of place if George Lucas had made it and it had been inserted into the original movies somewhere.
3) Because, dammit, nobody else was making what I wanted to see. Much as I'd prefer to see something where I don't know how it is going to end, I'd also like to see something that focuses on the elements of Star Wars that mean the most to me. And hopefully inspire someone else to go, "Yeah...yeah...! Whatever happened to that part of Star Wars, huh? Why don't we see more fan films about that?"
Probably just a dream, but if you can't dream, what can you do?
4) Because I CAN. Or possibly to show off. Maybe a mix of the two. I feel I'm talented and dedicated enough to make this happen--haven't quit yet and I'm making tons of progress every day; really hit my stride now!--and what a waste it would be if I didn't make use of that. I'm sure apathy has killed off many a fan film.
Granted, as an animator, my fan film has taken a long damn time to make--I wrote the script six years ago, man!--but when it's done, I think it'll have been worth it, and could lead me to bigger and better things.
5) Because I'm a big, honkin' NERD.
...and this is what we do.
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VaporTrail
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Date Posted:
3/13 8:20pm
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RocketGirl posted:
5) Because I'm a big, honkin' NERD.
...and this is what we do.
Amen, sister.
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3/14 2:39am
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DanichoDegan posted:
Hey guys, I have been noticing that alot of fan films nowa days are not as serius as they used to be. Alot of parodies and Spoofs, and thought hey might be funny...sometimes...what happen to the ones with good stories and awesome action scenes and Fan Films that tried to be like star wars...not make fun of it. I dont know about you guys, but I miss The good ol' Serious Fan filming Days.
thanks
D.D.
My personal opinion has always been that there is only one person/entity who should be doing "serious" Star Wars films, and that's George or Lucasfilm Ltd.
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That settles it, then.
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VaporTrail
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Where's the fun in that?
People (other than me) seem to think they weren't doing too great a job of it either.
I really don't think it matters what kinda fanfilm you make. If you had fun and like your results, then that should be good enough.
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ZNichols
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3/14 2:08pm
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Troopsguy posted:
My personal opinion has always been that there is only one person/entity who should be doing "serious" Star Wars films, and that's George or Lucasfilm Ltd.
If the last three films are any indication, George Lucas is the last person in the world that should be making serious Star Wars films. 
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RocketGirl
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3/14 2:15pm
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VaporTrail posted:
Where's the fun in that?
Agreed. Half the fun of a sci-fi universe is getting to play around in it. And as much fun as video games or RPGs can be, they're not the only way some of us would like to muck about in our favorite franchise.
VT posted:
I really don't think it matters what kinda fanfilm you make. If you had fun and like your results, then that should be good enough.
Here's where I disagree. I think that's good enough only if you have absolutely no intention whatsoever of actually, you know, showing it it to other people. If you actually want other people to see the thing, you kinna might want to, oh, I don't know, have a well-told story that's worth telling, one you could show to an audience without boring or disgusting them.
Just sayin'.
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3/14 4:01pm
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Rocketgirl posted:
Few people seem to have the imagination to be innovative enough to break out of a mold, to not follow the herd.
Not only that, but those who do CAN find themselves getting their a** chewed.
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RocketGirl
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3/14 4:30pm
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LLL posted:
Rocketgirl posted:
Few people seem to have the imagination to be innovative enough to break out of a mold, to not follow the herd.
Not only that, but those who do CAN find themselves getting their a** chewed.
And if you look in the right part of town, I'm sure you can find people who are into that.
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VaporTrail
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Date Posted:
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RocketGirl posted:
Here's where I disagree. I think that's good enough only if you have absolutely no intention whatsoever of actually, you know, showing it it to other people. If you actually want other people to see the thing, you kinna might want to, oh, I don't know, have a well-told story that's worth telling, one you could show to an audience without boring or disgusting them.
Yeah, I think you and I are gonna remain torn on this subject. If I made it, even if it was just for me, I'd still share it since it's so easy nowadays.
I mean, why not? People who aren't interested either won't watch it, or they'll watch the first 20 seconds, claim to have seen the whole thing and then throw some random vulgarity at me.
[shrug]
What's worth telling is highly debatable.
RG posted:
Few people seem to have the innovative skillset that could let their imaginations run free.
Fixed. 
If I could do anything I could think of, I'd be in a whole other ball game right now. You just can't let yourself stop learning. Some people seem not to know what to do other than find inspiration in the trends.
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VaporTrail posted:
Yeah, I think you and I are gonna remain torn on this subject. If I made it, even if it was just for me, I'd still share it since it's so easy nowadays.
Just because you would doesn't mean you should.
I started my fan film with the intention of showing it. Therefore, I spent a fair amount of time deciding what would be worth showing and why. Yeah, I made what I wanted to see right from the start, but I also considered my potential audience, too. As far as I'm concerned, that's either an inherent part of the process or you're just engaging in a kind of symbolic masturbation. Making your film "just for you"...and then showing it to people smacks to me of hypocrisy and/or self-delusion.
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Bad film doesn't = death, y'know. It's not that terrible a thing to have happened. Maybe if they spend a hundred million dollars first... that's kind of a waste.
And odds are, if you like it, someone else probably will too. Anyone remotely creative (and generally non-arrogant) doesn't have a worse critic of their work than themselves. We all know this all too well.
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RocketGirl
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VaporTrail posted:
Bad film doesn't = death, y'know. It's not that terrible a thing to have happened.
That's beside the point; we're on a filmmaking board, here, and I'm not about to advocate sloppy filmmaking or storytelling.
VT posted:
And odds are, if you like it, someone else probably will too. Anyone remotely creative (and generally non-arrogant) doesn't have a worse critic of their work than themselves. We all know this all too well.
Well, maybe that's the problem. I don't want to sound too terribly insulting, but it seems to me that many of the people who claim they're going to make a fan film--even many of those who succeed in finishing one--don't appear to be creative filmmaker types, but rather people who saw someone else's fan film and went, "Ooh, that was cool! And I want to be cool in exactly the same way!" without ever really considering what went into building a fan film...or whether or not to make an original story.
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