backdeskproductions posted:I have a BIG dream. <snip> Can it be done? I think so... just need a team of people to organize it.
backdeskproductions posted: (My reason for dating the story back so far is because the prequels and sequels fan films have pretty much been covered and are done too often. NEED ORIGINALITY!!!)
sithjeff posted:Product placement for The Last Remnants?
RocketGirl posted:I think it's possible that most people just aren't even considering that option; sometimes it seems as if the fan film world thinks the Rebellion never happened, so infrequent are the fan films that deal with that time period...probably because the only way to do that AND have Jedi is to either try and find someone to double for Luke or make up a story about a lost Jedi, cuz there's gotta be a Jedi in there somewhere at all costs (apparently). But if you really want to make something that, for the fan film world, doesn't happen much, a non Force-based script seems to me to be the way to go. So I figured I'd throw the idea out there, just in case it might generate an, "Oh, yeah...forgot about that aspect of the GFFA for a minute there; lemme think about it," kinna reaction.
ShadowDuelist posted: Yah, theres the no Jedi thing, but also I think its because we already know so much of what happens during this time period, its hard to think of how to fit something in (and kudos to you for doing so).
SD posted: If you throw in the EU, the most popular characters (Luke, Han, Fett, Lando, etc) have to be doing two or three things at once to make it all fit. And when you make up something new you want have the good guys fighting the bad guys. For it to stand a chance against the Empire you either need a One-Man-Army (aka. Jedi) or a large cast. Even if its bad guys fighting good guys, you still need a worthy opponent.
SD posted: If you ask me its a lot easier to roto a saber that get a bunch of decent actors who work for free.
DVCPRO-HDeditor posted:I think if there were an interesting take on the Jedi/Sith fan film, it could prove interesting. For the most part, we have Jedi meets Sith, they fight, Jedi is tempted by the Dark Side but overcomes it to win OR succumbs to win OR while dealing with the internal moral dilemma is killed by the Sith. Woopie-doo.
DVCPRO posted: I'd like to see a fan film try to address the larger issue at hand: Religious intolerance. Jedi are Catholics, Sith are Protestants - or somesuch. They're two groups who believe in the same power, but frame their worship of it in different manners. Those differences have led to years, decades, centuries and millennia of war and intolerance.
RocketGirl posted:ShadowDuelist posted: Yah, theres the no Jedi thing, but also I think its because we already know so much of what happens during this time period, its hard to think of how to fit something in (and kudos to you for doing so). Well, it wasn't difficult. All I did was think of the line Tarkin said: "The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away," and then thought to myself, "Well...what if he's wrong?" and *BAM*...the story just came to me. And I know that in conversations like this one, I've put more than a few ideas out there. One of my favorites is the one about a bounty hunter who is hired to capture an extreme rich business tycoon in the post-ROTJ New Republic...and it turns out that this businessman is actually an ex-Imperial officer who is guilty of extreme atrocities against the sentient races of the GFFA, escaped trial, and went underground to build a new life. The bounty hunter was hired by relatives of his victims to bring him in, but wasn't told why; we, the audience, find out why when the bounty hunter does, at the end. I mean, I could probably spew out ideas like that all day; the GFFA really inspires me to dream and imagine, which is part of why I find it so perplexing--and I am genuinely boggled by this--that so few people are willing to step outside the world of the Jedi and the Sith to do more with what I see as a rich, diverse, and very interesting universe. SD posted: If you throw in the EU, the most popular characters (Luke, Han, Fett, Lando, etc) have to be doing two or three things at once to make it all fit. And when you make up something new you want have the good guys fighting the bad guys. For it to stand a chance against the Empire you either need a One-Man-Army (aka. Jedi) or a large cast. Even if its bad guys fighting good guys, you still need a worthy opponent. Well, you see, I thought about that. This is why, in writing The Last Remnants, I came up with a concept that allowed me to have three Rebel characters, two Imperial characters, and one alien character. I mean, the whole concept is that a delegation from the Rebellion goes to a single planet to try to recruit it into the Alliance, and is confronted by their opposite number doing the same thing, Imperial-style. It's a simple story that hints at a much larger story--obviously there has to be more than one team doing what these people are doing or they'd never get to even a fraction of the whole galaxy--and gives the feeling of being epic without ever actually having to be. These are all things I thought about when writing this story...and I realized that you don't have to tell the whole epic story, just a tiny piece of it. Ask yourself...what aspect of the GFFA has gone unexplored that it might be neat to see? I've always been curious about the Rebellion, hence my fan film, but there's smugglers and bounty hunters and podracers and droids and aliens and cantinas and cantina BANDS and Imperials and royalty and moisture farmers and so on and so on and so on... I mean, how about this: a cantina band that plays a pub circuit between Coruscant and Corellia gets caught in the crossfire between Rebels and Imperials and has to attempt to get out of harms way, ending up forced to take sides just to get out alive. Perhaps some members of the band have sympathies in one direction or another, thus dividing loyalties between band members, splitting up the band. Or one of the band members has been an information mule for the Alliance, unbeknownst to the other band members and THAT'S what starts the conflict, the Empire storming their passenger liner to find that one person and the Rebels defending them, the other bands members having to come to terms with this new development. Just another idea I came up with this very second; kinna reminds me of the zeppelin scene in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. The possibilities are endless, and you never have to turn it into a multi-planet military epic. So, no, you really don't have the excuse of massive logistical problems, here. Just sayin'... SD posted: If you ask me its a lot easier to roto a saber that get a bunch of decent actors who work for free. Maybe...but that doesn't mean it'll be as fun or interesting to watch.
Jace Taran posted:Those are all good ideas, but I would imagine that someone could come up with original ideas that feature Jedi and/or Sith characters.
JT posted: I mean, true there's a lot of unexplored potential in the GFFA, but even Jedi stories could have a lot of original, unexplored potential beyond just saber action or using the Force.
JT posted: It's true that lightsaber duals & using Force abilities in fights/duels is overdone, but that certainly doesn't mean that Jedi and the Force have been drained of all potential.
JT posted: However, that also doesn't mean that it would be easy to come up with something good and original. Most people that try to seem to feel that they need to have the Jedi involved in some epic struggle against the dark side. There's always some Sith conspiracy or another, or some ancient Force prophecy about the end of the world, or an ancient Jedi/Sith artifact carrying unlimited power, and it always leads up to an epic duel in the end. It's either that, or some type of story about a Jedi tempted by the dark side and getting kicked out of the Jedi Order, and it's filled with excessive, melodramatic angst, depression, and suffering.
JT posted: As a final note, my point in this is not to say that all SW fan films need to have a Jedi/Sith in there somewhere (or lightsabers, for that matter). They most certainly do not.
JT posted: If the fan filmmaker wants to be original, then a Jedi should only there if they have a good reason to be, and not just because "we have to have some saber action somewhere in the movie." So I agree with you on that; I just don't agree that it would be impossible to utilize Jedi, Sith, the Force(or even lightsabers), in original ways.
