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Invisibility, Teleportation In After Effects?
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Blazefresh2
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Dec '06
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2/16 4:10am
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Invisibility, Teleportation In After Effects?
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Hello,
I am working on a Heroes/Jumper style fanfilm and we have idea's and everything, but before we start, i need to get the effects down. Well here's the problem, i've tried these effects and they never turn out how i want them to, and my last resort was to post on here and find out how you guys would achieve these effects.
The invisiblity effect im trying to acheive is at 1:27 on this video here, http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxcdakUGD0I
And the Teleportation effect can be seen here , http://youtube.com/watch?v=p9gezBaqDrE
Im looking to achieve this in after effects 7.
Thanks for your help, it's much appreciated.
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DarthRicmu
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2/16 6:51am
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RE: Invisibility, Teleportation In After Effects?
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The invisibility effect can be done really easy...
just film your guys doing the acting and then when the actors needs to disappear let him run of to the side. Then take a still frame with only the background on it (so a clean plate).
Composit those elements so that when the guys should disappear you roto the clean plate layer so it covers the actor and makes him disappear.
If you don't understand my very simple approach (you can get crazy with the effects... this is just the very basic manner to achieve this effect), the I suggest to first learn the basics of after effects but in my opinion this effect could be done by anyone having knowledge of the basic stuff in after effects. (not trying to blame you... I love to help  )
The teleport effect is really broad. The basic disappear and reappear in the back of the shot has a similar approach to the invisibility effect. Just disappear you actor and then shoot the same scene but were he plays as to reappear somewhere in the back. Basic compositing with the lemements I talked about above would do the trick.
If you after effects skills are to low you can watch tutorials on a number of websites:
Once you have watched those you can even think of these effects yourself.
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Blazefresh2
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2/16 9:07am
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Thanks for your response.
I know the basic pricipal of the effects, but i want them to look like the video clips i posted.
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stealth9908
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Use a tripod and do not move it. Film the scene with you actor then without your actor in the frame as to get just the background. If you do it right should be able to just lower the opacity of your actor and you should basically have it. You have to work with it though to get it the way you need it. Good luck.
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DarthRicmu
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Yeah... this is a bit cleaner than my post :P
But also I thought the person in that clip was masked in (like a transition effect) because I saw some sort of first his left piece of his body and then to the right... anyway...
these are pretty easy effects but you can make them as hard as u like depending on what need to be there. Though it mostly looks best when doen simple and subtle I think 
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Timothyto
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What I would suggest for the teleport thingie from Jumper. You will need to have something in your composition that looks like smoke or a cloud, well whatever. Place some footage of the smoke in your comp with the center at the place where you want to reappear/dissapear your actor. That's pretty much it... ^^
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VaporTrail
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That's kind of my issue with Jumper, is how the whole premise of the film is based off of this effect that we've been able to do really easily for a long time.
I don't think the movie'll be all that great, but the effect itself is easy.
I think the thing that helped it work well in the Lord of the Rings is that it was a very simple effect, only a few frames, and they also made sure to erase the shadows as well. I've never analyzed it frame-by-frame, but that might be a good idea. That way the image is changing, but you might not always catch what exactly feels different.
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RobbyPK
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2/16 8:11pm
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RE: Invisibility, Teleportation In After Effects?
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Check out this video tutorial on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2OgziqZ4WU
you can also go here to read a quick tutorial that is just about this effect:
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/hamill_alan/invisible_man.php
both sites involve shooting in front of a screen and compositing, though.
Basically, to get the invisibility but still have that slight distortion "cloak-effect", you make a copy of your background and use the talent shot in front of a screen as a displacement map.
If you don't a blue or green screen, or that just isn't possible, I suppose you could mask out the person frame by frame, but that would be VERY time-consuming
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Joel_K
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anyone have any idea how to do the jumper effect in a moving shot?
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Sure, use a motion control camera. Get a clean background plate, and 1 plate with each jump in it.
Also, if you're having someone jump and re-jump into the same shot, the way they did it was to use multiple people dressed the same way, as opposed to doing multiple takes.
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Vidina
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invisibility or cloaking, I might ask.
See, INVISIBILITY is just to take your actor away, but cloaking, now that's a totally different thing. I'd suggest using displacement maps, and turbulent displacements for the effect, using a mask for your actor.
Teleportation effect from Jumper is a bit hard. Only a bit. Use turbulent and displacement maps, aswell as some smoke elements. For moving footage, just compile a background plate, color correct it to fit, and motion track it so you always have a clean background.
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Obi-Bob78
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-Spiff- posted:
Sure, use a motion control camera. Get a clean background plate, and 1 plate with each jump in it.
Also, if you're having someone jump and re-jump into the same shot, the way they did it was to use multiple people dressed the same way, as opposed to doing multiple takes.
-Spiff
How much do motion tracking cams go for?
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Vidina
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Obi-Bob78 posted:
-Spiff- posted:
Sure, use a motion control camera. Get a clean background plate, and 1 plate with each jump in it.
Also, if you're having someone jump and re-jump into the same shot, the way they did it was to use multiple people dressed the same way, as opposed to doing multiple takes.
-Spiff
How much do motion tracking cams go for?
not motion tracking. Motion CONTROL. This means that they are rigged to move the exact same way every time, so masking like this would be just as easy as with non-moving camera. Also, it's not really an actual camera as it is the rig. you could use anything as long as it is able to reproduce the same move. I remember Ryan_W here used LEGO Trains for a clone shot. That's one idea.
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WeirdHat
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Sometimes for this effect it's possible to get away with just getting the camera move as similar as you can and then morphing between them. (Works better with shaky handheld shots where you expect the camera to be moving unpredictably anyway.)
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Joel_K
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Vidina posted:
For moving footage, just compile a background plate, color correct it to fit, and motion track it so you always have a clean background.
Thats what im not sure how to do. How many background plates do you need? And how do you put them together to fit with the footage? It's the details im trying to understand.
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BenMcEwan
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You only need one plate for every shot your actor is going to disappear/reappear...
But if it's in motion, you might want to film around the area of something and then stitch a few freeze-frames together to create one massive plate. Wit that, you can then match the motion and voila! A background plate!
In terms of the effects, I'd go about using a bunch of displacement maps and turbulent dispacements...
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