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Lord_Charisma Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 6/29 6:14pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	TrowaGP02a posted: Yeah I'm with Ryan, where are these personality assessments coming from? The fact that he want's to shoot a film on film, or because he is being advertised through CAD, which also I'm pretty sure you don't know Tim personally. I'm not quite sure someones preference of the look of film over video makes them a pretentious attention prostitute. I guess the luster and desire of shooting film has finally been killed by this generation. I am really surprised no one else fully supports and agrees with his decision to shoot super16, but hey, to each their own. I want to be slightly more clear though, if you guys did get donations and had the money, would you shoot film? Or are most of you just anti-film in general? Anti-film? No. If someone else was paying and dealing with the technicalities I'd happily shoot film, but give me a Red One over 16mm any day. -----signature----- Master Mike of the Secret 7000 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvqajaBoV-I - 2009 Reel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSCMwmB0mgY - Boobyhatch: Matrix Energy
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AdamBertocci Title: Manager: Fan Films Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 6/29 6:18pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	I'm a proponent of the digital revolution and have no interest in shooting film, but if someone wanted me to and would pay for it, I'd scratch my beard and go "hmm". I'm not the world's most visually-oriented filmmaker so I don't think I'd be good enough to take full advantage, y'know? I think film should be something you 'graduate' to after proving yourself on video. We have that capability now. Rick McCallum loves you! -----signature----- "Run Leia Run", "The Chopped-Off Hands of Star Wars" and "The Fan Film Menace"... ... and now the award-winning "Brooklyn Force". Check 'em out. http://www.runleiarun.com
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Boter Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 6/29 7:46pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	Same here. No problem with people shooting on Super 16, but it's expensive, and when you're donation driven, its probably better to go with digital so that the donation money is spent on props, costumes, locations, talent, etc. -----signature----- Organizer, TF.N Filmmaking Workshops III and IV Member, Key Pixel Gathering of Filmers (partial filmography in profile) I Knew a Jedi. What IS Meatball?
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VaporTrail Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 6/29 9:05pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0 - Date Edited: 6/29 9:06pm (1 edits total) Edited By: VaporTrail
	AdamBertocci posted: I think film should be something you 'graduate' to after proving yourself on video. We have that capability now. Interesting you put it that way, because in school we weren't allowed to take the video courses until after we'd taken film production. You could get away with it, I took 'em at the same time, but generally this was the rule. -----signature----- Fanfilmers shoot first and talk copyright later. http://www.vimeo.com/vaportrail/videos http://thespenceleyspoileriffic.blogspot.com/
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AdamBertocci Title: Manager: Fan Films Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 6/29 9:25pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	At NU you had to take 200-level video before you could move onto any 300-level course (the first level at which film entered the picture), although you didn't have to do any 300-level video before tackling film. I just think it's a horrifying waste of money to be dealing with celluloid unless you've learned at least SOME basics first in some provable way. This is not to say that even after a few years of film school your average student actually has anything important to say, but at least it might look competent. Rick McCallum loves you! -----signature----- "Run Leia Run", "The Chopped-Off Hands of Star Wars" and "The Fan Film Menace"... ... and now the award-winning "Brooklyn Force". Check 'em out. http://www.runleiarun.com
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ZNichols Registered: Feb '06	Date Posted: 6/29 9:45pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	Trowa posted: I guess the luster and desire of shooting film has finally been killed by this generation. I am really surprised no one else fully supports and agrees with his decision to shoot super16, but hey, to each their own. I want to be slightly more clear though, if you guys did get donations and had the money, would you shoot film? Or are most of you just anti-film in general? I just doesn't seem practical in this situation. It sounds like this guy has little to no money of his own, and as previously discussed adopting a digital format (Red or something else) could either significantly reduce his budget or free up money for other important things. I'd like to shoot film someday to experience first hand just how much different it is than digital. However, if I had an unlimited budget I would still most likely shoot digital, justified alone by the simplification and increased efficiency of the workflow. It was easier to side with Film over video back in the Attack of the Clones and ROTS days when George was shooting on a 1080p camera with a relatively small sensor. Film still had a definitive advantage over digital. However, it's getting harder and harder to side with film now that we have Cameras coming out like the Red Epic and full frame 35mm sensors like the Mysterium Monstro (and even larger). I know people still argue that there is a discernable aethstetic difference between Film and Digital, but honestly it's starting to get impossible to tell the difference. Especially if the digital is transferred to 35mm for theatrical release. -----signature----- a widescreen sandwich......an epic sandwich....... Formerly ktulu216: Feb '05 www.zenvfx.com
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bobaandy123 Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 6/29 10:28pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0 - Date Edited: 6/29 10:29pm (1 edits total) Edited By: bobaandy123
	I took the leap a few weeks ago and finally bought a 16mm camera and some film. I just had to do it. There is something just so alluring about film, just something that isin't there with digital. You feel like your actually shaping an image brushstroke by brushstroke rather then just kinda goin' for it. It's a weird thing, but it's awesome stuff. To answer the question, yes, I would shoot on film rather then digital given the funding and the option. I also had a bunch of non-movie expert friends over. "So uh, should we like, talk into it? Make sure the sound works?" "Dude, it's like, plastic covered in chemicals. Sound?" -----signature----- "I know the movies! Why don't Spielberg?!" ~Michael “Dorkman” Scott, Geekza! Episode 50
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SilentBat Registered: Aug '06	Date Posted: 6/29 11:18pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	Rick Rolling done? Rick Astley dead?: Click Here (Don't worry, it's Rick Roll free) Still no confirmation from major news sources tho so this one may be untrue. -----signature----- http://antoinebandele.blogspot.com http://vimeo.com/antoinebandele http://twitter.com/AntoineBandele According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction.
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TrowaGP02a Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 6/29 11:31pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	It's pretty debunked within the first 4 comments. -----signature----- blarg
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Lord_Charisma Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 6/29 11:37pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	SilentBat posted: Rick Rolling done? Rick Astley dead?: Click Here (Don't worry, it's Rick Roll free) Still no confirmation from major news sources tho so this one may be untrue. LOL @ quote at the top of the page: Website posted: iReport.com is a user-generated site. That means the stories submitted by users are not edited, fact-checked or screened before they post. -----signature----- Master Mike of the Secret 7000 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvqajaBoV-I - 2009 Reel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSCMwmB0mgY - Boobyhatch: Matrix Energy
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Boter Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 6/30 7:50am Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	Aww, content not currently available. You know, Billy Mays was one of those people that the Internet would hoax a death for. Not so MJ... -----signature----- Organizer, TF.N Filmmaking Workshops III and IV Member, Key Pixel Gathering of Filmers (partial filmography in profile) I Knew a Jedi. What IS Meatball?
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Darth_Abdax Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 6/30 1:09pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	TrowaGP02a posted: I guess the luster and desire of shooting film has finally been killed by this generation. I am really surprised no one else fully supports and agrees with his decision to shoot super16, but hey, to each their own. I want to be slightly more clear though, if you guys did get donations and had the money, would you shoot film? Or are most of you just anti-film in general? I would totally shoot 35 if given the budget (and honestly, you could easily make that work on half a million... I'll bet you could pull it off at a quarter. For myself? I've still have a ways to go.) I just feel 16 has been decimated by 35 and digital projection. In order to get a projectable copy of your film shot on 16, you either blow up to 35 or scan it into the computer and project digitally. Both are very expensive. A 35mm contact print is much cheaper, as is HD (no telecine cost). 16 still has its place though, and low speed stocks can be gorgeous. I would just never shoot it, because getting a copy to project would be expensive and a pain. I guess what I'm really trying to say is this guy should shoot 35 instead of 16, and forget the DI, or shoot digital. -----signature----- I aim to misbehave.
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Vidina Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 6/30 5:57pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	I'd totally shoot on 35/70mm film if I had the chance, but if the choice was either RED ONE or a panavision 70mm, I'd probably go with the RED, because of the workflow. -----signature----- http://vidina.wordpress.com - Awesome! http://twitter.com/Vidina - Follow me! http://www.youtube.com/tomellingsen - My stuff! http://www.aurellia.net - Video tutorials and more!
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bobaandy123 Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 6/30 8:16pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	Vidina posted: but if the choice was either RED ONE or a panavision 70mm, I'd probably go with the RED, because of the workflow. Are you kidding? Dude, that's messed up. ...you know how they have 35mm adapters? Is a 70mm adapter possible? -----signature----- "I know the movies! Why don't Spielberg?!" ~Michael “Dorkman” Scott, Geekza! Episode 50
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VaporTrail Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 6/30 10:06pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	Ahh, crap. The She-Busters? A co-ed next generation team I could see, but I'm not liking where they're going with this. At least there's still hope for TR2N. -----signature----- Fanfilmers shoot first and talk copyright later. http://www.vimeo.com/vaportrail/videos http://thespenceleyspoileriffic.blogspot.com/
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