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Krintar Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 7/4 2:49am Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	I don't see how a sudden change in technological sophistication would drive a man insane. It might be hard to adjust, I'll give you that, but the human mind is pretty adaptable. At worst it would just seem like magic - though if he originally lived at any point in the 20th century, even that would be unlikely. As a people we've become pretty well accustomed to rapidly changing technology over the last 150 years or so.
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Teague Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 7/4 2:56am Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	The inside/outside world you're describing is similar to an aspect of Anathem, a recent Neal Stephenson book that everyone should go out and buy. (And that Dorkman should download, so he can tell us more about his stupid Kindle. Stupid Kindle.) Wiki it for the basic premise, you'll see what I mean. -----signature----- Teague "Fig" Chrystie Hollywood, CA http://www.downinfront.net http://twitter.com/TeagueChrystie
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MasterZap Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 7/4 6:05am Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0 - Date Edited: 7/4 6:06am (1 edits total) Edited By: MasterZap
	Teague posted: The inside/outside world you're describing is similar to an aspect of Anathem, a recent Neal Stephenson book that everyone should go out and buy. (And that Dorkman should download, so he can tell us more about his stupid Kindle. Stupid Kindle.) Wiki it for the basic premise, you'll see what I mean. The Audiobook is particularily good, being read in part by Stephenson himself. Speaking of which, I wish I was suffering from Causal Domain Shear (see Anathem), but I am instead suffering from TWO count 'em TWO toasted computers after a big thunderstorm last night. This was AFTER pulling every plug in the house, trying to calm the kids down that it was okay, when there was a bang to end all bangs (and lightning was coincident, i.e. it hit within some dozens of yards from the house) and a smell of ozone and unhappy electronics (I think the magic blue smoke escaped somewhere!). The kids, of course, freaked out even more. I was happy I had rescued all computers, and we tried to sleep until morning. Come morning, I'm gonna plug in and boot up the computers, and of course, everything a) important b) expensive or c) both didn't start, and anything a) meaningless b) for the kids c) outdated d) cheap or e) all of the above worked fine. sigh Worst of all I had an unsubmitted piece of work on one of the harddisks. And this was the 1st day of my vacation. Gloooorious. Yeah. sigh Silver lining so far; pulling the disks out and putting in an external USB reader => works. So at least the disks I've tried seemed to have no data loss. The "unsubmitted piece of work" was quickly submittted But you CAN have a better saturday morning than blowing one 8-core 64 bit 10-gigabyte-RAM rendering computer AND one dual-core 4-GB-RAM music production system.... /Z -----signature----- mental ray Tips blog - http://www.mentalraytips.com ZapTroNic Visuals - http://www.ZapTroNic.com Oldschool Homepage - http://www.Master-Zap.com FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER - http://twitter.com/masterzap
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Sith-Man Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 7/4 10:04am Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	To all you Americans on here, happy 4th of July... To the non Americans... Whatever... -----signature----- I will not tell my Legions of Terror "He must be taken alive!" The command will be "Try to take him alive if it is reasonably practical." -Element Force http://jacobthesheppard.wordpress.com/ Happy Dorkman?
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DorkmanScott Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 7/4 10:22am Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	Krintar posted: I don't see how a sudden change in technological sophistication would drive a man insane. It might be hard to adjust, I'll give you that, but the human mind is pretty adaptable. At worst it would just seem like magic - though if he originally lived at any point in the 20th century, even that would be unlikely. As a people we've become pretty well accustomed to rapidly changing technology over the last 150 years or so. Yeah, I don't see the "going insane" thing happening just because of waking up to a change in technology, no matter how drastic. For a man to wake up a century in the future, leaving behind everyone and everything he ever knew without a chance to say goodbye or to right any wrongs, I could see that having a serious emotional impact on him, and maybe even lead to a breakdown of some kind, but it would be something that happened once near the beginning, then he'd adjust and get over it. I don't see what the "him going insane" adds to the story, considering it's essentially just the Macguffin to get him moving forward along his journey of discovery, which in itself is perhaps a little cliche. What might be interesting is if he were already insane. What if you had a 20th century Jack the Ripper, no one knew his identity, and he happened to get in an accident and be cryogenically frozen? The case would be unsolved, there would not even be suspects, the new Ripper would just suddenly have disappeared. And then, a century later, completely unaware of what they're doing, some folks wake him back up. He's not rehabilitated -- after all, as far as he's concerned no time has passed -- and considering that the actions of a serial killer involve de-humanizing his victims, how will it affect him when the disconnect between himself and other people has grown even wider? Depending on what this future is like, you could even work in some irony in the fact that the killer does fairly quickly adapt to the new technology, using it in "outside the box" ways that people who grew up with it would never think of as part of planning and executing the murders he commits. Maybe you could comment on what some perceive as the growing anonymity of information technology, to show that this advanced society (which would, of course, have an almost non-existent crime rate as all its members would have learned to co-exist) has created technology which actually facilitates the killer's behavior while also making him more difficult to track and catch. Perhaps all people have implants of some kind that make them easy to track, but this guy, being from the past, has not had them installed yet. Eh, there's probably a better way to do it, but that's the first thing that came to mind. So you can have a story with two twists on the ordinary: a fish-out-of-water story in which the protagonist does not learn to cope with the change, and a detective story told from the perspective of the killer. That's got a lot of promise, IMO. -----signature----- Yes We Did http://www.ryanvsdorkman.com Check out my blog: http://dorkmanscott.wordpress.com
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FX_guy Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 7/4 11:34am Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0 - Date Edited: 7/4 11:37am (1 edits total) Edited By: FX_guy
	That'd be pretty easy to pitch, you could just say "It's Demolition Man meets Time After Time!" Actually, the two movies take the premise and go opposite directions with it - in Demolition Man the future isn't prepared for the killer from the past, in Time After Time the killer himself can't believe how violent the future has become. "In our time I was a monster. Here, I'm an amateur." - David Warner as Jack the Ripper, Time After Time -----signature----- http://www.pinkfive.com Morbid and creepifyin' I got no problem with.
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AdamBertocci Title: Manager: Fan Films Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 7/4 11:38am Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	I don't see how a sudden change in technological sophistication would drive a man insane. Okay, so you waited in line three days and spent hundreds of dollars to be the first to get an iPhone, and then a coupla months later they release the new model... Rick McCallum loves you! -----signature----- "Run Leia Run", "The Chopped-Off Hands of Star Wars" and "The Fan Film Menace"... ... and now the award-winning "Brooklyn Force". Check 'em out. http://www.runleiarun.com
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VaporTrail Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/4 12:08pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	Nice. -----signature----- Fanfilmers shoot first and talk copyright later. http://www.vimeo.com/vaportrail/videos http://thespenceleyspoileriffic.blogspot.com/
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storm8105 Registered: Jun '08	Date Posted: 7/4 12:53pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	The idea reminds of Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World". The savage boy exposed to a world of advanced technology and radically different social structure can't deal with it and tries to live a life away from society as a hermit. -----signature----- Blog: http://ptheisen.wordpress.com/ Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/storm8105 Vimeo: http://www.vimeo.com/user520480
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Penitio Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/4 2:15pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	To me, it sounds like what happens after "Vanilla Skies" ends. -----signature----- Est ignarus plene... Rhys: ...it all accumulates to a roller coaster ride of epic lunacy. (In regards to Wands) sithjeff : I don't know how I can top Penitio's post, so I won't even try.
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Vidina Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 7/4 2:37pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	It's also slightly reminiscent of Futurama... :P -----signature----- http://vidina.wordpress.com - Awesome! http://twitter.com/Vidina - Follow me! http://www.youtube.com/tomellingsen - My stuff! http://www.aurellia.net - Video tutorials and more!
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VaporTrail Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/4 2:42pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	And for some reason I imagine Bruce Willis playing the lead. Turns out the local fireworks are not on the 4th, they were a few days ago (weirdos), but to celebrate our nation's birth I demand large explosions... so I shall be attending Transformers 2 in IMAX. Rock. -----signature----- Fanfilmers shoot first and talk copyright later. http://www.vimeo.com/vaportrail/videos http://thespenceleyspoileriffic.blogspot.com/
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Vidina Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 7/4 3:14pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	VaporTrail posted: I shall be attending Transformers 2 in IMAX. I'm sorry for you. In other "news", did anyone catch "Burn-E"? I just found it on youtube by accident(browsing IMDB to get my film-o-meter up) and it's apparently a year old or so. Figrin' awesome. Burn-E -----signature----- http://vidina.wordpress.com - Awesome! http://twitter.com/Vidina - Follow me! http://www.youtube.com/tomellingsen - My stuff! http://www.aurellia.net - Video tutorials and more!
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Krintar Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 7/4 5:35pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	AdamBertocci posted: Okay, so you waited in line three days and spent hundreds of dollars to be the first to get an iPhone, and then a coupla months later they release the new model... I will never understand people who wait days in line for something they could preorder and get in the mail. I laughed very heartily at the people who were waiting in line for The Burning Crusade when mine arrived the morning before the midnight launch. And hey, business practices like that have been going on for years (see: graphics cards). If anyone's really bothered by it at this point, they clearly haven't been paying attention, since it's going to keep happening as long as it's profitable (which will be for a long, long time mainly because people are dumb).
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PaplooTheory Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 7/4 6:25pm Subject: In Search of the "of the": Social Thread v8.0
	Forgive me if this has been done before, but it came to me a little bit back and I finally got around to making it: -----signature----- AHBY! I tried to pass for nothing but my dreams gave me away. Visionary dreamer of the Blue Teachings and t-rex
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